DV's Confirmed 5.4 Information for F2P

[Super_Duck]

Watch the mongoose proc give 3 agility when scaled to 24.

More likely they'll scale it inline with vanilla endgame enchants, i.e crusader.

I've heard 88 agi somewhere, but I don't know where they got that information.

 

[Goesid]

More likely they'll scale it inline with vanilla endgame enchants, i.e crusader.

I've heard 88 agi somewhere, but I don't know where they got that information.

90 agi 22 haste because scaling is retarded atm.

 

[Super_Duck]

Yeah found the source I was thinking about:
http://www.twinkinfo.com/forums/f12/purjs-ptr-enchant-findings-49873/

 

[Obey]

Pugging is already a nightmare.5.4 truly upped the Kid friendly skill level of Hunters and 24s. Not bashing on the Good hunts and 24s here, but even the Backpeddlers can be gamechanging by a click of 3 simple Buttons.


But now,Insanely high stat enchants
Blizz Throw us a bone! The 24s dont need anymore lovin'

 

[Trijea]

90 agi 22 haste because scaling is retarded atm.

its not retarded its logical why would the scaled enchants give less stats than vanilla enchants (crusader)

 

[Vandiir]

its not retarded its logical why would the scaled enchants give less stats than vanilla enchants (crusader)

One may also ask why those higher enchants were not usable at low levels until 5.4.

Or, if reapplying that logic, why does Dancing Steel [MoP enchant] on PTR give less stats than Mongoose [BC enchant] and Crusader [vanilla] (str wise that is)? And so on.

 

[Trijea]

One may also ask why those higher enchants were not usable at low levels until 5.4.

what kind of question is that. obviously because they didnt have the whole scaling idea earlier

 

[Goesid]

its not retarded its logical why would the scaled enchants give less stats than vanilla enchants (crusader)

90 + 22 = 112, crusader = 100.

 

[Trijea]

90 + 22 = 112, crusader = 100.

haste is a secondary stat they arent worth the same

 

[Goesid]

haste is a secondary stat they arent worth the same

so if we divide it. 22/2 = 11
90 + 11 = 101
still superior to crusader.

 

[Björke]

On the ptr Dancing Steel proccs for 62 agi per weapon on a rogue, at least the last time I checked with a friend.

 

[Trijea]

One may also ask why those higher enchants were not usable at low levels until 5.4.

Or, if reapplying that logic, why does Dancing Steel [MoP enchant] on PTR give less stats than Mongoose [BC enchant] and Crusader [vanilla] (str wise that is)? And so on.

because ds has a higher proc chance than mongoose and crusader

 

[Trijea]

so if we divide it. 22/2 = 11
90 + 11 = 101
still superior to crusader.

who says that 2 haste = 1 primary stat. and even if that was true 101 and 100 is similar enough to call it equal

also crusader heals which goes off the stat budget

 

[Dax]

Low level rogues will have the possibility to reach 100%+ crit with Mongoose while low level warrior will only get attack power from crusader. Doesnt look fair for me.

 

[Trijea]

Low level rogues will have the possibility to reach 100%+ crit with Mongoose while low level warrior will only get attack power from crusader. Doesnt look fair for me.

mongoose doesnt give rogues 100%+ crit at 20/24

 

[Goesid]

Low level rogues will have the possibility to reach 100%+ crit with Mongoose while low level warrior will only get attack power from crusader. Doesnt look fair for me.

warriors can get dancing steel or w/e its called.

 

[Ultragreen]

Low level rogues will have the possibility to reach 100%+ crit with Mongoose while low level warrior will only get attack power from crusader. Doesnt look fair for me.

Mongoose not scaling to like 5 agi doesnt seem fair to me

 

[Chykcha]

• Explosive Shot damage has been increased by 18%.

From 5.4 PTR Patch Notes - August 14 - World of Warcraft maybe i'm being an idiot and can't read.

ATM with BIS gear the calculations are (considering +50% focus on AS):
ArcaneShot Old 313 New 230 =>26% nerf
Aimed Shot Old 640 New 800 =>25% buff
Explos Shot Old 360 New 420 =>17% buff

Arcane Shot now deals 125% ranged weapon damage (up from 100%) and had its focus cost increased by 50%.

maybe i'm being an idiot and can't read

Bingo!

 

[Fujin0]

Ya screw you blizz for that patch... and the one before!

wtb 5.1 back, kthx

 

[Chykcha]

What are base res and battle fatigue for f2p now with these changes?

Base Resilience now reduces damage players deal to others players by 72% (up from 65%).
Battle Fatigue now reduces healing for players that are engaged in PvP combat by 55% (up from 45%).