49's Gear Guide (best practice) + Rares to farm

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  1. Cattywompus

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    Thanks man! I was considering on maybe doing a 50 dh for pve purposes, partially because they are godlike in pve and dog shit in pvp lol
     
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    I actually am thinking about it too, my 49 is pretty decently geared and I just find it underwhelming... I'm thinking maybe at 50 with endgame HoA gear it might pick up for me, can only go so far with that at 49, i believe. Might be wrong.

    My newer 49 druid is feeling a little stronger, but honestly i think that's only cuz i can pop convoke... lol. ;)
     
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    I've been weighing the push to 50 on my 49's as well. I have a 50 that I'm going to Twink at 50 that's just sitting in Green 50 BoE's and he kills faster than my best geared 49 at iLvL 96 (both Tank spec). Besides, I don't trust that Blizz is EVER going to fix all the buggy bullshit with ToF and 49's, while 50's just don't have those problems.
     
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  4. Warglave

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    Does the bastion story questline end at the same place for 50 and 49? Could be a little more opportunity for 110 epic reward procs for 50 to build on too. I keep putting it off to fiddle with level 20 stuff, but that's getting to be a worse grind.

    I never trust blizz at anything, and something just feels way off about 49 to me. Not that it's on purpose, just broken.

    How can i get to 49 in heirlooms and be ok but in gear literally 40-50 ilvl higher i struggle almost as much?
     
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    ^ This. I guess I'd hoped that 49 would somehow be like the old 101's. Boy was I wrong.
     
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    Not to mention the 50s community for pve and pvp are pretty solid right now!
     
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    I dont wanna delve too much into it as it's not a 50 thread, but the level 50 bastion story questline (as well as side quests) continues past where you are halted at 49. Ilvl increases on those quests as well, up to 116 for epic upgrade.

    It's good to know for 49 as well so i dont feel off mentioning it here, for bracket comparison sake. Not much better.

    Lamest trinket ever upgraded for me... woot.
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    edit- also ran out of quests shortly after this post, cant finish the bastion storyline at 50 either.
     
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  8. Warriors305

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    I noticed as well that 49s seem a lot weaker in PvE now than at 50, probably because of the power jump from 49 to 50 while the enemies remain about the same(except of course higher difficulties for 50 content). It could be actually weaker, I haven't compared too closely going for 49 to 50 what happens to the enemies. As an idea of what you need for 50s to compare to 49s: You unlock essences, more azerite traits, HoA stamina traits, higher ilvl azerite gear, and the cloak at lvl 50 which actually helps a ton(upgrades to ilvl 155 same as HoA, but also has a 180 primary stat proc with a decent proc rate and is required for Horrific vision runs/the last two bosses of Ny'alotha).

    For gear, most Shadowlands gear doesn't benefit, mainly trinkets(or any items with unique equip effects like the slumber ring) and the rep vendor gear recently discovered. ilvl 116 is about heroic ilvl gear, which could be a nice catch up boost for starting 50s. Otherwise, your main gearing focus is using bfa Mythic Ny'alotha runs when they start for ilvl 130/140/145 gear. You also want to do 5 mask Horrific Vision runs for ilvl 125 gear, and an item to socket gear for 25k momentos each. This is just a quick summary, I think there are a few guides that go over this in more detail.
    --- Double Post Merged, Feb 15, 2021, Original Post Date: Feb 15, 2021 ---
    Yeah, waited for a 60 to spawn one of them and got a loot drop but it was lvl 60 required. Maybe it was from a world quest? I got a scaled ilvl 84 beating abomination core earlier that seemed like it was only for 60 from a world quest so maybe there is a cycle to get it? Maybe a different loot source? Or it could be grandfathered as well :(.

    Edit: On another note as a reminder, the rep token world quests are definitely useful to get and not very common(especially the +475 one), I would focus those first in each zone that you are in. Also, some of the world quests appear to have a somewhat shorter expiration time, with pvp world quests being the shortest. If you are attempting to maximize rep, it may be best to focus those secondly as well so that you don't accidently miss it.
     
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    So a few points that need clarification:

    Most ilvl shown in items (for 48's) are somewhat lower ilvl, its a tooltip bug, but the stats the item actually give are correct
    The blue treasure epics are also affected by this (that's why the glaive is 128ilvl, not 140ilvl), always trust in the equiped ilvl gear that is shown on the character interface, not in the tooltip of the item itself
    50's are stronger atm because of the sources of gear that they have (mostly nyalotha and horrific vision) but the reputation gear (if it not scale down when we buy then) are far, far more powerfull.
    Basically in the next few months we will be able to see some 48+ cutting the edge of the gear available
     
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  10. Charicore

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    So wait is it better to stay 48 or 49 then?
     
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    At 48 it wouldnt let me continue past the initial entry into oribos during the storyline quest mode, where you go to bastion and get the chances at ilvl 110 upgrade proc on that quest reward gear. All that quest gear is higher base ilvl than normal ToF drops/rewards. If you dont care about that gear, then I suppose 48 would benefit more from the stats?

    I dont know, i skipped right to 50 after blizz legit level-blocked me from going to bastion. The second I dinged 49 I checked and the quest-giver that had disappeared was now back and ready to let me move forward into the story.

    I dont know how good 48 is cuz they wouldnt allow me to get any item rewards... ToF would have worked but screw them.

    ;)
     
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    i usually go 48 because i unlock xp to casually join some bg's (and quit before they end) in a non-random queue, so i dont get bonus xp, but you still win some xp, then i go 48 so the character have more "lifetime" in the bracket
     
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    Or 50, that has all the shadowlands gear then onto a bfa capped account.
     
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    Just a heads up, I recently reached the honored requirement for two of them and both items work at lvl 50, no hidden lvl requirement and no scaling its the same ilvl and lvl requirement as it says in the vendor.

    Wasn't sure if I should share this but, may as well. While its stated that the lvl 60 dungeons require lvl 60, it appears that this is actually not the case. You can enter into lvl 60 dungeons at lvl 50(at least the two that I tested), and perhaps 48/49 as well(didn't test). It seems there is no normal versions for some but it allows you to go into heroic and mythic just fine, the enemies are just lvl 60 no scaling as expected. This could be beneficial for the rep week quests where it requires lvl 60 dungeons, and whatever else we may find in there. I currently don't have a team or very geared 50 to test, but this could prove very interesting.

    The mythic+ font appears to be accessible in mythic as well, so a lvl 60 might be able to do a mythic+ with low lvls by inputting a key, if you have one to try(don't have a separate shadowlands account, nor with a 60 with a key to test sadly). Unless you are very geared on your 50 and even then, you will probably need a team for these dungeons. Just a very intriguing thing I found when I randomly tried to go into a dungeon, and at the very least it should help get 500-1000 extra rep depending on the week. We could probably try to set up a team to attempt to go through them, if enough people wanted to.
     
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    i would be very interested to run theatre of pain heroic this week, with my 60 and my 50 if you or anyone else is interested. im a 200ilvl destro lock, decent damage. HORDE. i just got my first honored this week. others soon. have not done a single quest. saving for DMF buff marathon.

    there is no power gains other than completing this rep quest that i know of, when doing these on a 50. even in keystone runs. you cant access the legendary pattern for opening the vault 1 time quest. you cant spend Stygia currency obtained from the vault. all loot is 60 and not wearable.
    getting keystone master achieve might allow access to valor upgrade NPC and for it to drop from Callings, but thats overkill cause you wouldnt be able to wear any gear you can upgrade, and youd need post 9.0.5 drops which might not be obtainable


    Tonight or tomorrow. It’s Sunday. Warriors or delindsay let me know. My 60 lock is decent, might be able to run with a pet tank if you guys are a healer/hybrid dps
     
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    So I’ve played around with this a fair bit already guys.

    We can complete heroic, mythic and keystone in any shadowlands dungeon.

    I did a +7 De Other Side and a few +0, got vault loot but no key and end chest isn’t lootable, items come in post.

    Dungeon quest items don’t drop in mythic, might in heroic but not sure if they are separate quests.

    We can equip every rep item from 48.

     
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    Sorry, I haven't responded recently, got burned out from all the world quests so I had to take a break. However, it appears now that entering these dungeons has been hotfixed. Just recently tried to enter Theatre, and it says it requires 60. For such an obscure thing, I doubt this is a coincidence. Thankfully, it was really only the rep as nothing else seemed equipable or of interest. The only thing I still wonder is if we could get soulbinds from the dungeon.

    This is a good reminder that either Blizzard scans these forums regularly for potential glitches to fix, someone reports them for it to be fixed after stumbling upon them while reading this forums or looks for them then reports it to be fixed, or its also possible a random lvler when into the dungeon and reported it. Having it been only a few days after I posted it here being fixed, this is why I am overly cautious about posting similar stuff publicly(along with past experiences); if someone posts similar stuff here, I usually expect it sadly will be fixed fairly quickly so its always good to jump into it quickly before it does so everyone can be involved. I would add a bit more onto this, but I feel it would probably get hotfixed too.
     
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    It's crystal clear that Blizz watches this Website. The evidence is all those "New Members" that came here right after SL Pre-Patch hit and the flurry of Hotfixes/Nerfs to the EXACT things we mentioned here. Granted they watch other Websites as well and we aren't usually the ones that find the things 1st but it's still obvious.
     
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    After reading through this thread, I'm still not clear on the accuracy of required level on BoEs. This item appeared in the AH. Is the "requires level 48" real, or a tooltip error? The AH initially says level 60, but then when you click on the item and the AH shows you the two available (in this case), both said 48.

    Muirnne's Stormforged Signet.jpg

    An ilvl 190 piece available for 48s opens up a lot of possibilities, so you can imagine my burning curiosity.

    Edit: I found several pieces like this on the AH (though not with the socket and tertiary), and they max out at ilvl 207.
     
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    @Kirise someone found the same thing and tried on a 50, no luck. Just broken TT's since 9.0.5 is my guess.
     
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