20 Twinking is really bad.

I think the problem is that the forums at this point are just such a small fraction of twinking that anybody just believes anything that is posted/written/mentioned. This entire exchange is just absurd.

Elemental is bad, the damage is bad. Any dog can have it's day, and any spec can be carried in any BG. that is not an argument for Elemental having bad damage/being comparatively bad.

Maybe when I say "bad" it causes kids to get itches in their britches... When I say "bad" what I mean is "Shut your mouth and stop representing the class as something it is clearly not".
 
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Super old or a turnip game. Just get that out of here.

You just spend 30 minutes hitting a priest in the corner self healing... maybe.

These forums are funny, I'll give them that.
Its a few months but its SL. I dont turnip, and I didnt have a deal with a priest because I dont speak russian.
 
I was in a group of 3 ele shaman that beat a triple hunter/disc/xp-exploiting warrior in twin peaks.

this single example, per your request, proves you wrong. Thanks for playing.
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Well, if we follow that logic, then this proves that hunters and disc priests are bad.
I'm sure you didn't win because shamans were OP. You just faced a bad team.
 
ele can global with enough mastery/int/vers

ever been hit by a double lava burst and one of them crit, yeah its pretty disgusting

that being said they will lose face to face vs a decent hunter everytime unless the hunter doesnt know what a counterstrike totem is
 
Since you scale to 29, you dont get HKs for killing lvl 20s, and russian teams are pretty much always exclusivly 20s, guess they had one guy that wasnt in that game.

Lava burst always crits on flame shocked targets.

i dont play enough ele shaman to know this lol
 

this SS is actually pretty impressive.

based on the numbers, the shaman dasha and priest thalia were playing objectively and kept several alliance players pressured, but not too pressured that they would die and get resurrected.

so the game was won because horde was basically 2~3 man up (dasha + thalia, in some way, cancelled out 4~5 alliance players)

Super old or a turnip game. Just get that out of here.

but horde won, in a game where alliance had way more kills.

please think twice before you speak.
 
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If you played more pugs I'd probably care about your opinion more, you are just too warped by wargames and arena skirmishes. Is what it is.

If you can cite examples that would be nice, but I'll wait for those, because they don't exist. I don't need to cite them because anybody that plays on a regular basis knows that Elemental is not good... its not that its under represented/etc... it's just bad. Can you like it, can you enjoy it... that is subjective not objective.

And we have talked about running the flag before in pugs... if you are winning who cares who has the flag... a DH is nice, but really it could be anything.


Your 100 percent legit, i have elemental shaman lvl 20, and the spec is so bad, a lvl 20 frost mage twink is much better. Alot of folks are basing shamans on their experience on running premades or duos , trios in battle grounds, were they can free cast- for days. I mostly do 99 percent of my bgs on all my twinks as solo. Elemental shamans damage is weak, even is decked out gear, hunters and warriors dominate all of the bgs in terms or effectiveness. Go in a random bg and unless you have some decent geared healers and some op melee dps your fuked.


elemental isnt enough to turn the tide in bgs, to much casting and low dmg. My frost bolts crit on my mage for 700-730 on twinks.
lightining bolt on a shaman crits for like 420-470 in bgs.

There is a reason almost never see elemental shamans in the 20s bracket. And the one you see are usually twinks because, lvlers would have a even worse time as a elemental shaman. if your twinked out elemental shaman you will do okay, but alot of other specs are just better. Heck even my crit based shadow priest does better, provides more of off healing, and utility to slow targets.



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