Who here knows the name of this guy's 60s?
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busgaga
ARP loaded frust DK
Its really stupid to separate queues in bfa Times, DO u think bgs Will be popping frequently or what ?
IF u remember wotlk u had XP off bgs poping even during Early nornings. But then activity and game overall was popular.
After cata u had 1 pop untill horde won, then Ally had to Bring 64 resi gemmed twinks that Made US stop queing.
XP merge is not The way to go. I need levelers to fill up spots.
IF u remember wotlk u had XP off bgs poping even during Early nornings. But then activity and game overall was popular.
After cata u had 1 pop untill horde won, then Ally had to Bring 64 resi gemmed twinks that Made US stop queing.
XP merge is not The way to go. I need levelers to fill up spots.
Zerofoxtrot
Veteran
There are so many twinks, that play across so many time zones, at all different hours... being able to be organize enough to host even half of them on a regular basis is not realistic. Most players don’t have designated times they can play everyday. Some players can only play a 30 minutes -1 hour, a few times a week. Should all of these players just do without, because they can’t make a specific timeframe? Have you seen the difficulty the 29 bracket is having with getting an AV to pop? There is a dedicated group trying every Sunday. I don’t think it’s happened yet... Look at the 59 bracket. There are several guys who have been trying to get a wargame for a couple weeks now. No luck... a separation of ques would cause a very large portion of twinks to disappear.
jwl
FC - Pagle
That may be the sad truth of it. But lets be real, there is no reason they should die. 59 is an upcoming bracket that has been popular for a year now, and we average 15-20 members online during peak hours, on Horde* only. There is absolutely no reason as to why we cant get competitive games going. I'd imagine 19, 29 & 39 has the numbers as well. If the activity dies, its the player base to blame. Not the bracket separation.
I remember having 70 twink AV pops where it was 40v40...or 19 twink WSG where everyone was huddled up and it was actually fun. Honestly, I cant speak for you guys but the game was much more enjoyable back then.
Can anyone please stop using fallacy and put up a credible argument? Im really not seeing anything more than oblivious postings regarding questions I have already answered. Please read my post before coming here!
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Razien
Legend
I recon he's referring to the five to ten or so people that regularly visit his stream.
Right now we have the option of whether or not we want to face a full raid of twinks. If you do, then play wargames. If you just want to chill and do some bgs vs levelers then do normal battlegrounds. You're taking away the players choice.
I wouldn't say "new", I just prefer to avoid this website. People came to me when they saw your post on US, It was obvious bait to me but I'd figure i'd bite just to see how fast you'd decline fighting me.
What happened to having the highest quality and best twinks on all of US and EU? If that's really the case then you have no reason to refuse the duel. You could just shred me.
...ah I forgot, that's all just bait. You've got nothing. No balls, no spine, nothing.
jwl
FC - Pagle
My stream is doing very successful! thank you for promoting it for me! Link is in my bio!
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Right now we have the option of whether or not we want to face a full raid of twinks. If you do, then play wargames. If you just want to chill and do some bgs vs levelers then do normal battlegrounds. You're taking away the players choice.
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I am not taking away the player choice! Do you think I get to dictate and make these decisions? If only I could - My choices would weed the casuals out and make twinking actually fun. As far as wargames go, I try to do them daily but everyone is playing dodgeball! Shoutout to the 59s who have been participating though, we've had a blast WG'ing these past few days
Veechard
Legend
Knowing how to gear a character properly does not imply he’s claiming he is the most skilled. It simply means he has a lot of twinks with the gear that’s he has either discovered or had a part in the forum discussion discoveries.
With that being said, your sounding like an animal right now. Don’t think he ever said anywhere he was better, skill wise, than anyone
MYT
Legend
Agree in both regards. And he’s a Fucking Idiot (capitalized for emphasis) for suggesting that brackets be separated again.
Nobody on here speaks for me FYI.
Blackberryy
TBC Classic
Regardless of what it is, it’s not a good thing for the wow forums or any forum for that matter being shown that someone thinks they are the best of the best and making it known so irrelevantly as to come off as arrogant before stating a fact. Regardless of what you are or aren’t you came off as if the aforementioned information was supposed to validate your point.
And I’d like to point out that there are brackets where queing bgs is the equivalent of 5v5 wargaming the opposing faction of twinks with 5 additional levelers. 3 bgs at lunch and we got a different 5 man twink team each time.
Also what do you want us to do when we get off work early or play during a low period of the day and can’t que bgs because we are waiting on enough twinks to log on to play games, twinks don’t play 24/7 so there is down time in ques, but with merged brackets you have content in pvp and are still able to wargame, even with the current merge.
Chops
Soccer Dad
Ok
They've done this before when the game and twinking were both more popular. Despite a huge effort that included mass server transfers and rerolls to populated battlegroups, twinking had a brief flourish, we were hyped, games were awesome, etc. It lasted for almost a whole xpac.
Getting games started requiring coordination across time zones, running external apps to track log in and who was queing. People qued multiple twinks in both factions to force pops, etc
After a while, it became "alright, 39s are Tuesday nights and 29s are Wednesday"
And eventually it devolved into short lived, week long "revivals" that were the only games brackets would see in like 6 months
It was terrible for twinking.
The game is less popular now and the twinking community has shrunk since then. Getting wargames now requires significantly less effort than getting games back then did. If you want competitive games, then do that. I applaud your effort and I'm excited to see you (and the community, by proxy) do well and grow
Some of us, however, just wanna shoot the shit with our friends in the gultch while we have a few beers after work. Queing into levelers scratches the itch without having to take it too seriously.
If you want a real competitive challenge on a nightly basis with short ques and little/no effort, let me introduce you to F2P...
MYT
Legend
The whole “you like to farm levelers if you don’t agree with not having pops because jwl is an idiot” point of view is nonsense. I’ll farm you in any bracket hell you got farmed from bracket to bracket by JamesB. I hate playing against bunch of levelers too but hate far more being limited to two brackets with less frequent pops you jackass.
The Saint
I won't like you
Some of us actually moved to us servers just to get a game
jwl
FC - Pagle
@Blackberryy Im not gonna be the only person taking heat for arrogance here. Few others stir the pot the exact same way as I do. I know for a fact you read my WOW post - Did I portray myself in the OP the same way I do here? No.
Im out here pulling mad numbers this morning, and you guys are so triggered over me suggesting a bracket separation for competitive games. This is such a great day! BTW Jamesb beat me in a wargame one time! his core group vs. me and some random guildies, nice try though!
Im out here pulling mad numbers this morning, and you guys are so triggered over me suggesting a bracket separation for competitive games. This is such a great day! BTW Jamesb beat me in a wargame one time! his core group vs. me and some random guildies, nice try though!
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Razien
Legend
Why don't you understand that there aren't enough players to get something like that going nowadays? 59 is great now because queues pop and that is mainly because there's levelers to fill the empty slots.
Take it away and watch brackets die.
15-20 members? that's nothing. If you want to face the same group again and again then you may as well just queue for a wargame. Removing xp-locked characters from levelers achieves nothing here. absolutely nothing.
True! there's no reason as to why you can't get competitive games going but you may as well do it through the wargame system because that's going to be the exact same experience.
Nobody here is arguing against competitive games. They are arguing against a bracket separation because the twink community is simply too small for it to sustain a flow of battleground pops. You need the levelers to fill the empty slots for faster queue times.
Blizzard has literally tried to separate before and what happened? Battlegrounds didn't pop for the following two expansions.
https://xpoff.com/threads/my-guild-is-lf-wargames.82890/ What do you call that thread? Was that boasting really required to look for more people to join in wargames?
jwl
FC - Pagle
^ That's me stirring the pot, promoting games in a humorous manner. Truth to it? yeah, but dont take me serious lol.
I won every wargame I played. Do you see me shitting on the players I queued into? no. Jesus, you guys dont understand what trolling is. Am I the only person with a sense of humor here?
I won every wargame I played. Do you see me shitting on the players I queued into? no. Jesus, you guys dont understand what trolling is. Am I the only person with a sense of humor here?
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jwl
FC - Pagle
@Chops I really do appreciate that response.
But have you guys not considered that blizzard has implemented in-game communities? It is much, much easier to start things now than it has in the past. There are so many variables to this change (both good and bad. I have acknowledged both before you all decided to throw insults at me) yet you guys have fixed mindsets. I placed my opinion. I want more competitive games in all brackets. You guys dont have to agree with it, and as I stated on both forums, that is okay! That is why I made the thread I did, and I am damn glad I made it. Before you all ignorantly decided to put words in my mouth or assume actions, please read my OP!
I cant speak for every other bracket, but I know for a fact 59s could do 10v10s daily consisting of all twinks. That being 59* (a bracket that has just started getting popular)
39 has the numbers, 29 has the numbers, and so does 19. It really cant be argued. All everyone does is AFK in durator or goldshire sitting in battleground queues anyways. There is truly is no reason as to why our community cant get games going, other than laziness.
But have you guys not considered that blizzard has implemented in-game communities? It is much, much easier to start things now than it has in the past. There are so many variables to this change (both good and bad. I have acknowledged both before you all decided to throw insults at me) yet you guys have fixed mindsets. I placed my opinion. I want more competitive games in all brackets. You guys dont have to agree with it, and as I stated on both forums, that is okay! That is why I made the thread I did, and I am damn glad I made it. Before you all ignorantly decided to put words in my mouth or assume actions, please read my OP!
I cant speak for every other bracket, but I know for a fact 59s could do 10v10s daily consisting of all twinks. That being 59* (a bracket that has just started getting popular)
39 has the numbers, 29 has the numbers, and so does 19. It really cant be argued. All everyone does is AFK in durator or goldshire sitting in battleground queues anyways. There is truly is no reason as to why our community cant get games going, other than laziness.
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