Is this really bannable??
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bigpappa
Member
I did xpdebuff shenanigans, sure, didnt use the macro script though, just clever use of blizzard queue system.Ppl get ban
Ppl claim no xpdebuff nonsense
Blizz big mad????
ME not ban cuz bestest.
If they banned me for reason: exploiting, I'd take the L a lot easier and accept it, I mean, I still don't think it deserves a PERM BAN though....
Just annoys me they've claimed I used hack clients which I clearly did not.
What is more worrying is the guy who claimed he simply just played his twink in dungeons and nothing else, but still got banned. That scares me enough to not even try again. Feel like I got lucky they didnt include my 20+ year main account which I was boosting chars on.
I'm more sad about the fun being over than the twink account being banned if I'm honest. I was having a blast.
Hennelorix
So complicated was the fall
I wasnt playin last 6 moths. I got back after a very-very long break. And it is just wow ban. Checkmate. Thats why im so surprised to get ban just for clearing tbc dungeons with legacy loot for gearing my toon. But i unerstand that out twink community is in dangers at any moment. Very sad, that's all.
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parry10359
Member
it is sad. Agreed.
Hennelorix
So complicated was the fall
What's your ms in wolf form btw?
Conzil
Fastest Twink in the World
221%
But got up to over 500% on a druid while testing stuff
https://xpoff.com/threads/the-i-am-speed-challenge.100729/
Hennelorix
So complicated was the fall
Te-hee, my warlock ran at 228% speed before ban. Is it you who reported me to get rid of concurrents, huh?
drake178
Member
Brother, my lock does 250% with Fel Rush. Rogue and druid 233%, shaman 253% in wolf. And these are without farming consumables (phial + fish add another 13-15%) and incomplete gear sets that I'm still improving. Give this a rest already, will ya?Te-hee, my warlock ran at 228% speed before ban. Is it you who reported me to get rid of concurrents, huh?
Chops
Soccer Dad
Id take that with a grain of salt. Every time someone eats a ban but "I was just playing normally" it comes out eventually that they were doing something fishy.
Zishy
New Member
i have done the exact same thing for years. especialy boosting friends through dungeons by queuing together and coordinating the queue pop on discord. except this time blizzard seems to have updated the algorythm to make it a bannable offense? no bluepost about it, no warnings, nothing. straight permaban
Hennelorix
So complicated was the fall
I got my account back
You are so cool! Dont take it so serious bruh, it looks like you need to touch the grass
Chops
Soccer Dad
so you knew you were engaging in behavior to get around an intended limitation in the game and youre shocked you got a ban because it just took them a while to get around to it?
Zishy
New Member
this makes no sense whatsoever. what isnt intended is grouping up to do activities other then the dungeon. if the intention is to xpoff everyone that ends up with a group with you then blizzard should adjust its mechanics to allow for that circumstance or clarify that its not ok. neither of which were done ever
Chops
Soccer Dad
Thats the intention because thats what happens normally when you group with a player that has XP Off. It doesnt happen in the random dungeon finder because its not fair to random dungeon goers to eat an XP debuff if a twink just random ends up in their group.
Im sure you encountered these intended mechanics as they were intended and then decided "what if we cheesed the random dungeon finder tool to get around the xp debuff?"
Whether the timing of the enforcement makes sense to you or not, you knew exactly what you were doing.
Though I agree, blizzard should 100% just streamline this shit and make it way more obvious what they intend for this game... by just outright removing the xp eliminator NPCs entirely. But thats another soapbox
drake178
Member
What? There's no way I'm doing that. It's raining outside, and I already had a shower last month!
Conzil
Fastest Twink in the World
Now beat my 521% as Druid
thefatgoblin
Veteran
I did not get banned (yet) but i'm gonna add a perspective here:
One day i queued with my level 80 into a TW with a 11 fury warrior and kinda was frustrated with the situation, i used to boost myself before pandaria remix even, i have multiple lvl 11's on different accounts and i know how both sides of the coin approach this
People who don't wanna deal with twinks feel frustrated by the system and start reporting, because when you are the twink on the group you're just playing a single-player game and no one but yourself signed for it, so they report (and they can get salty about it). As soon as i realized this, i just queue with my accounts, i fill 5 slots of the group with a few starter edition accounts and do it all myself (basically private runs), if multiboxing was the issue i'd probably be banned by now (i hope i dont get banned at least, but it seems this wave didnt reached me yet)
So, i think its a combination of spamming 1 button for 3 hours, running dungeons in very outlier range (they see only data, so they see people's average run times and see your run time and they see like 10 minutes lower, your account may be flagged by any automation system they came up with)
My theory is that is a combination of number of reports, speed of median timewalk runs and hotkey-pressing pattern
i've stacked about 12 years of bans because i botted all my way up to 5 million gold on the BFA brutosaur fever across 3 bnet accounts (i'm not innocent in this field) but the fact that i get banned that many times gave me insight on how these things work and i'm just glad at this point that i'm still on, my plans are: i'm just gonna transfer most of my gold to my warbank and hope for the best (while not running TW dungeons anymore as i wait for communiation) let's see how this goes
Did anyone that was doing private runs only got banned?
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i have a friend multiboxer in my battle.net friendlist, and was talking to him just now, he claims he leveled 100 toons to level 80 across 5 accounts (idk, but i trust him, hes always logged in 5 accounts, every account with the expansion levels 71+) with the level 11 and queue dodging method, he did not get banned as i'm seeing he online right now, he always does private runs too
One day i queued with my level 80 into a TW with a 11 fury warrior and kinda was frustrated with the situation, i used to boost myself before pandaria remix even, i have multiple lvl 11's on different accounts and i know how both sides of the coin approach this
People who don't wanna deal with twinks feel frustrated by the system and start reporting, because when you are the twink on the group you're just playing a single-player game and no one but yourself signed for it, so they report (and they can get salty about it). As soon as i realized this, i just queue with my accounts, i fill 5 slots of the group with a few starter edition accounts and do it all myself (basically private runs), if multiboxing was the issue i'd probably be banned by now (i hope i dont get banned at least, but it seems this wave didnt reached me yet)
So, i think its a combination of spamming 1 button for 3 hours, running dungeons in very outlier range (they see only data, so they see people's average run times and see your run time and they see like 10 minutes lower, your account may be flagged by any automation system they came up with)
My theory is that is a combination of number of reports, speed of median timewalk runs and hotkey-pressing pattern
i've stacked about 12 years of bans because i botted all my way up to 5 million gold on the BFA brutosaur fever across 3 bnet accounts (i'm not innocent in this field) but the fact that i get banned that many times gave me insight on how these things work and i'm just glad at this point that i'm still on, my plans are: i'm just gonna transfer most of my gold to my warbank and hope for the best (while not running TW dungeons anymore as i wait for communiation) let's see how this goes
Did anyone that was doing private runs only got banned?
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i have a friend multiboxer in my battle.net friendlist, and was talking to him just now, he claims he leveled 100 toons to level 80 across 5 accounts (idk, but i trust him, hes always logged in 5 accounts, every account with the expansion levels 71+) with the level 11 and queue dodging method, he did not get banned as i'm seeing he online right now, he always does private runs too
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Zly
Grandfathered
First off let me say I am so sorry for all the innocent people that have been banned.
Second, @ chops, you are such a cancer. i have no idea why you have to be such an ass all the time. i have seen countless threads you have turned into multiple page diatribes for no good reason. You are just like all the other Blizzard fan boys with your "you know what you were doing, you deserve it crap". None of these people were banned for the little exploits you keep pointing to. They were banned for hacking-using third party programs botting, most likely triggered by others reporting them as bots, but I of course like everyone else don't know exactly what triggered it.
I can tell you Blizzard is not perfect and is in fact stupid and incredibly bad with customer service. At the start of the expansion i got a 3 day ban for exploiting (a normal first time ban length for an exploit). My exploit consisted of me playing the game so much that my renown was over whatever arbitrary number they decided was too much due to people that actually did exploit it. So, I got banned for playing too much without any recourse. I tried the ticket system receiving generic responses until the last one which was pretty much a cease-and-desist letter.
My suggestion and what i do, but certainly no guarantee
1)Let the group know you are a human. I have a macro where i ask up front "Is it ok if we go fast". If's not i leave. I have had exactly one in hundreds/thousands(who knows) of runs that i was asked to leave
2)Don't make the instance your own. Include the group, let them catch up and actually hit the boss. Not that it matters
3)have another macro or addon or whatever thats says Thanks all or whatever at the end. Of course, according to chops this will get you another ban for hacking-using third party programs because one key press hit T h x A l l
Again, sorry to all those that lost accounts i hope you get them back. My experience with Blizzard customer service is that there is none
Second, @ chops, you are such a cancer. i have no idea why you have to be such an ass all the time. i have seen countless threads you have turned into multiple page diatribes for no good reason. You are just like all the other Blizzard fan boys with your "you know what you were doing, you deserve it crap". None of these people were banned for the little exploits you keep pointing to. They were banned for hacking-using third party programs botting, most likely triggered by others reporting them as bots, but I of course like everyone else don't know exactly what triggered it.
I can tell you Blizzard is not perfect and is in fact stupid and incredibly bad with customer service. At the start of the expansion i got a 3 day ban for exploiting (a normal first time ban length for an exploit). My exploit consisted of me playing the game so much that my renown was over whatever arbitrary number they decided was too much due to people that actually did exploit it. So, I got banned for playing too much without any recourse. I tried the ticket system receiving generic responses until the last one which was pretty much a cease-and-desist letter.
My suggestion and what i do, but certainly no guarantee
1)Let the group know you are a human. I have a macro where i ask up front "Is it ok if we go fast". If's not i leave. I have had exactly one in hundreds/thousands(who knows) of runs that i was asked to leave
2)Don't make the instance your own. Include the group, let them catch up and actually hit the boss. Not that it matters
3)have another macro or addon or whatever thats says Thanks all or whatever at the end. Of course, according to chops this will get you another ban for hacking-using third party programs because one key press hit T h x A l l
Again, sorry to all those that lost accounts i hope you get them back. My experience with Blizzard customer service is that there is none
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