Talents Preview Discussion [w/ Calaculator Link]

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  1. Lateraldrop

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    Didn't you play and advocate that a build that specifically could not healbot was META for like a quarter of this xpac?
     
  2. Nutsmite

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    I wish they implemented the old glyph of harsh words as a talent for hpal. Holy word would be ranged damaging holy power spender. That's the way to bring shockadin back
     
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    Castable denounce coming back that did damage and had the "cannot crit" debuff would help with hpally's lack of non-cooldown damage abilities compared to other healing classes.
     
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  4. Kethcup

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    time for sword and board Fury
     
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  5. Chops

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    I was actually looking at that. You go hard left on the spec tree and hard right on the class tree? Probably full on meme build, but those are often quite fun
     
  6. Kethcup

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    Sub out Storm Bolt for Intimidating Roat, Piercing Howl, Berserker Rage, or Intervene.

    Basically, be super disrupting (12 sec cooldown interrupt, Rallying Cry, Spell Reflect) with a good amount of self-healing.

    You are unfortunately forced into raging blow, and your executes will likely be weaker than an Arms or even Prot warriors, but will still Rage. If only Ignore Pain was still class-wide...
     
  7. Chops

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    i tried it out and the dmg is dog shit. Tanky disruption build is probably prot, given the new CD/abilities they get that help account for the dmg taken nerf in pvp AND increased mobility.
     
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  8. Nutsmite

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    Have you tried or could you test how's the fury damage with rampage gone and all the raging blow buffs? Do you happen to overgenerate the rage?
     
  9. Chops

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    oh yea, your only spenders are slam and ww. But your only even marginally good dmg is during enrage, so you’re just stuck spamming bloodthirst and raging blow to try and fish for procs. Youre 100% rage most of the time

    Fury is (currently) dead, guys. Sorry.
     
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  10. Bop

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    Maybe poor Arms will start to get some attention now that the oppressive Fury spec is on its way out.
     
  11. Chops

    Chops Soccer Dad Moderator

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    At least “just get double destiny, bro” only lasted an xpac
     
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  12. Bop

    Bop Remember the Treeline

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    I'd settle for Stockade Pauldrons at this point.
     
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  13. Vyvenem

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    MORE Hunter changes coming? Wowie!

    Baseline Class Changes:
    • Tenacity Pets no longer have Survival of the Fittest.
    • Tenacity Pets have a new ability, Fortitude of the Bear. This grants you and your pet +20% maximum HP for a duration.

    Class Tree:
    • Thick Hides removed.

    Survival:
    • Kill Command (the Survival variant) now has an innate +10% chance to reset its cooldown. Predator’s value has been lowered from 25% to 15%.

    POTENTIAL CHANGES
    Class Tree:
    • Survival of the Fittest is now in the class tree. (doesn't specify where)
    • There is a choice node to modify Survival of the Fittest to have a shorter cooldown, or have higher damage reduction value. (also doesn't specify where)
    Marksmanship:
    • A bunch of nodes in the bottom left area have been shuffled around the tree. (it TECHNICALLY doesn't specify where, but I doubt it'd be to the top)
     
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  14. Kethcup

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    where are shadow priest changes. Or Fire Mage. Or literally anything other than huntard.
     
  15. Chops

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    dont sweat it. every change is making hunters worse and worse at 20. SPriests look great. and yea, rip fire mage but eh... theyre still mages
     
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  16. Kethcup

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    yay can't wait for my entire rotation to be just mind flay because I need to take useless points to get to silence skipping over any and all throughput in a way literally no other class has to.
     
  17. Chops

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    Ok, quit the game then
     
  18. Ammonite

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    Don't worry, Blizz will move Critical Mass up a tier so we can spec into the bonus crit chance COPIUM
     
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    if that's the case, then chances are, the optimal way to spec is to skip silence.
     
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    But if you skip silence how are you going to pretend to be a rank 1 arena player in lvl 20 skirmishes?
     
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