Talents Preview Discussion [w/ Calaculator Link]

[Vandiir]

According to Flux and severals others on xpoff discord (and personally verified), the dragon flight prepatch PTR server is online now:
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/dragonflight-pre-expansion-ptr-development-notes/1330092

 

[Vyvenem]

Several talent trees have been updated on the calculator! Things I noticed:

• Berserker Stance and Battle Stance now share a spot and are only available for Fury and Arms/Prot respectively, and the class side tree looks a LOT better imo (notably, Impending Victory is row 2 now and can be obtained with your first talent point)
• Feral druids have a wider tree and got Primal Wrath (AoE Rip)
• Warlock Spell Lock replaced by Demonic Circle at the top. Demonic Circle's old spot replaced by the damage reduction passive for using the ability.
• Shadow priests got Dispersion and Silence on row 2 making it basically free for all shadow priests to get

 

[Chops]

Tactician got moved below the point gate and Sudden Death got moved above it. Thats a pretty substantial playstyle change for arms. After all this shuffling of trees, Arms basically trades Colossus Smash and Ignore Pain for leap/shout/die by the sword/zerker rage

 

[Kaxle]

Eclipse no longer alternates? So how does it get triggered and what happens after it ends?

Same way you just aren't forced to go into the opposite eclipse after it ends now

full notes https://www.wowhead.com/news/balanc...new-mastery-major-updates-for-starfall-328728

 

[Vyvenem]

New update came in for talent trees just now. I haven't combed through much of it but the main thing I noticed was priests lost Shadow Mend and associated talents

 

[retrofunk]

I dislike this concept where your spec defines everything you do, instead of being guidelines on how to play your class. Why can't we have SnB fury? Why can't we have a melee resto? I don't even care for the specs to be optimal, i care for them functioning in a way that allows you to simply play them and tailor them how you want.

have I got a holy priest boss melter for you

 

[Pexela]

have I got a holy priest boss melter for you

hit me

 

[retrofunk]

hit me

dip right for the class tree (shadow word death lvl12) and the holy spec tree (chastise lvl13). perhaps stopping at lvl 14 to access squished profession gear?

not going to detail why it works, you can look into the numbers yourself.

 

[Nutsmite]

hey all sub rogues rerollers do I have a news for you about shadow dance

 

[Chops]

They fixed Lava Surge! Yay!

 

[Vyvenem]

I know this thread is about to outlive its usefulness but I just wanted to mention that Druids now have Barkskin listed as a level 10 ability down from 24, meaning all those talents related to it are now useful.

Warlocks, however, still have Soul Leech at 24 :/ Let's hope that changes too.

 

[Chops]

Warlocks, however, still have Soul Leech at 24 :/ Let's hope that changes too.

I've mostly checked out of retail but I still log on to beta once every couple days to report this and barkskin. glad to see at least one of them changed lol

 

[glancealot]

The number of charge or charge like abilities warriors get...it's absurd.

 

[Sil]

Soul Leech at 24 :/

Fixed now on pre-patch! Have it at 20 and appears to be level 10 passive now according to wowhead talent calc

 

[glancealot]

Bounding stride not reducing heroic leap cooldown somehow, weird.