Talents Preview Discussion [w/ Calaculator Link]

[Chops]

Compared to the first iteration of pvp talents Id say theyve made leaps and bounds of progress, and they do serve a point. Itd be interesting if they could be worked into the regular talent tree but at what cost? Idk, I quite like the current system.

I just kind of, as a game design idea, pull back from creating two different versions of the game. Like the PvP talent system is the most obvious but also the way spells work differently (sometimes to a huge degree) in pvp or even just do way more/less dmg in a pvp environment and theres no visual indication that this is the case.

It just all kinda bugs me

But also, Im sympathetic to the way they have to try and balance the output and mitigation it takes to survive a raid encounter with the output and mitigation you need to survive a 2v2 match and I dont envy the hole previous designers/devs dug for current designers/devs. So i get it. I'm just gonna grumble about it too.

 

[Purj]

Give me back Purge. Its been too long

 

[Chops]

Give me back Purge. Its been too long

you could always flip the script and roll a hunter when shaman become fotm…

 

[Dragonstormy]

I really hope we get some other fotm classes than hunter in DF, so less rerollers for my class will show up...
Even tho they probably stay hunters, as other classes like sham will require more than 1 button memories.

For me personally, those trees look amazing enough to play and experiment with all classes in DF (so far). Seems I gotta get my ProtPala back out.

I'm also about to try either Shaman or Druid, never played those before. Anyone who could recomment a spec?

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[Kaxle]

Shaman or Druid. Anyone who could recomment a spec?

All of them

 

[Chops]

I'm also about to try either Shaman or Druid, never played those before. Anyone who could recomment a spec?

Ele shaman looks really good for DF. Roll one now and get your bonafides in before DF launches so you can say you played it before it was cool.

 

[Waiwhat]

Ele shaman looks really good for DF. Roll one now and get your bonafides in before DF launches so you can say you played it before it was cool.

Like everyone is doing with rogue right now.

 

[Goesid]

Ele was always cool and if it wasnt fotm with castable while moving, mega hitting LBs it probably wont be now either.

 

[Bop]

Ele was always cool and if it wasnt fotm with castable while moving, mega hitting LBs it probably wont be now either.

I remember Ele being picked a lot in randoms back in that era. It was never top picked ofc, but definitely one of the contenders.

 

[Goesid]

I remember Ele being picked a lot in randoms back in that era. It was never top picked ofc, but definitely one of the contenders.

Maybe 1 or 2 people picked it up but nah, even then it wasnt a contender with hunters getting their damage back. Avengers shieldadins, denounceadins, slam warriors and shield slam warriors.

 

[Chops]

Like everyone is doing with rogue right now.

excuse you sir I have ALWAYS been a rogue main

 

[Lateraldrop]

excuse you sir I have ALWAYS been a rogue main

His name was originally conceived by how he would chop at his enemies w his daggers.

 

[Nutsmite]

Guys guys guys guys warrior is coming and it will have stances

 

[Chops]

Guys guys guys guys warrior is coming and it will have stances

squinting at the thumbnail, it looks like the stances correspond with each path of the class tree. So you likely get whatever stance is associated with your spec for free, and then will likely have to spec into any of the others. We'll see!

 

[Nutsmite]

squinting at the thumbnail, it looks like the stances correspond with each path of the class tree. So you likely get whatever stance is associated with your spec for free, and then will likely have to spec into any of the others. We'll see!

I also see heroic leap in the early rows on the wowhead screenshot!

 

[Sil]

Ouch, Arms is potentially losing Colossus Smash at 20, but can still get Sudden Death and now Heroic Leap for all classes

Edit: at 20 warriors can get https://www.wowhead.com/beta/spell=382260/fast-footwork , https://www.wowhead.com/beta/spell=103827/double-time , https://www.wowhead.com/beta/spell=3411/intervene and https://www.wowhead.com/beta/spell=6544/heroic-leap . That is gonna be a lot of zipping and charging around! RIP to kiting

 

[Nutsmite]

Ouch, Arms is potentially losing Colossus Smash at 20, but can still get Sudden Death and now Heroic Leap for all classes

Edit: at 20 warriors can get https://www.wowhead.com/beta/spell=382260/fast-footwork , https://www.wowhead.com/beta/spell=103827/double-time , https://www.wowhead.com/beta/spell=3411/intervene and https://www.wowhead.com/beta/spell=6544/heroic-leap . That is gonna be a lot of zipping and charging around! RIP to kiting

There is so much good stuff and potential builds. Also whrilwind spamming arms for them crusader procs

 

[Chops]

Ouch, Arms is potentially losing Colossus Smash at 20, but can still get Sudden Death and now Heroic Leap for all classes

Edit: at 20 warriors can get https://www.wowhead.com/beta/spell=382260/fast-footwork , https://www.wowhead.com/beta/spell=103827/double-time , https://www.wowhead.com/beta/spell=3411/intervene and https://www.wowhead.com/beta/spell=6544/heroic-leap . That is gonna be a lot of zipping and charging around! RIP to kiting

we trade an easily countered 6 second burst window for better sustain and tons of utility. I’m for it.

the only ouch is losing IP. Though you can give up shout for D stance and whatnot

 

[Purj]

So Hex is gone and Purge is in! I'll take it! EZ maelstrom stacks here we come

 

[Nutsmite]

we trade an easily countered 6 second burst window for better sustain and tons of utility. I’m for it.

the only ouch is losing IP. Though you can give up shout for D stance and whatnot

Also (and I know ist only alpha so that's subject to change) HAVING ON DEMAND 40%HP HEAL WITH 25S CD MY GOD. And as fury player I take tradeoff of rampage for fully working raging blow any day