US State of the Bracket and re: 19 TC

Resto Druids do not count towards the current 2 stealth limit. So no you do not lose out on a resto fc Druid by using a feral. And you do not lose a rogue.. Teams could use feral/rogue and a resto Druid. All you give up is a Boomkin and a team tailored around a feral stalling strat doesn't need a boomkin. I mean if you really want to get into it we were the only team to not use a boomkin last year (everyone thought it absurd) and it turned out pretty well obviously.

The fact that you insinuate non of the classes take skill at 19 to counter my feral argument is absurd. You can counter other classes abilities and movements that's the point of 2 teams playing in warsong, ferals bypass that completely.

Youre a moron, stop posting.

Firstly You're*

If a team runs Feral/Rogue you straight up destroy them mid and they can't really do shit after that. I said 2 of each class which has nothing to do with the stealth rule Feral and a Druid fc would mean you lose Resto druid and Balance druid (two high priority classes). I'm pretty sure you're the moron here if you're too simple minded to understand this. Stop thinking you're good cause you beat random bads in the twink cup that didn't matter. ty
 
Firstly You're*

If a team runs Feral/Rogue you straight up destroy them mid and they can't really do shit after that. I said 2 of each class which has nothing to do with the stealth rule Feral and a Druid fc would mean you lose Resto druid and Balance druid (two high priority classes). I'm pretty sure you're the moron here if you're too simple minded to understand this. Stop thinking you're good cause you beat random bads in the twink cup that didn't matter. ty

You really corrected my lack of an apostrophe?

the whole point of a feral rogue comp is cheese tactics that won't involve fighting mid, how difficult is that for you to grasp?

Nobody in their right mind will run a rest a resto Druid as an actual resto Druid so your point is moot. Once again, as I explained earlier and you skimmed over, a boomkin is NOT needed in a feral rogue cheese comp. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you won't be competing in the cup so you wouldn't have to experience the bs that is a turtle cheese comp if ferals WERe allowed.

Beat random bads in last years cup? I guess you could call Team ABN a bunch of bads but you'd be the only person doing so.
 
So I was going to flip through this shit-journey to see how we arrived here in Shitville but I stopped reading after Bacon suggested that DC was a "less skilled" fc.




Fast forwarding, yes everyone does have the privilege to express their opinions on these forums. However, we have to keep things civil. If you disagree with someone and they're clearly an idiot, you don't have to say that on forums... you can just say that in private conversations to your friends and laugh about the stupid things they post like the rest of the world does.


I know whenever I make a post, people are all like "did you see that post Mocha just made lololol he's so lost omg". The fact is, I'd much rather that be said in private conversations than on these forums. (and that way I don't have to ban the world again)


In all seriousness, we have to be able to discuss things without them blowing up into a flamewar. If there's an issue, use the report button, otherwise I was just popping in just to remind everyone to keep things civil.... and not like Civil War type... but like civil. Like the opposite of Civil War. Like take the Civil War, so you have your War and you have your Civils right? Then like do the inverse of whatever that is.
 
You really corrected my lack of an apostrophe?

the whole point of a feral rogue comp is cheese tactics that won't involve fighting mid, how difficult is that for you to grasp?

Nobody in their right mind will run a rest a resto Druid as an actual resto Druid so your point is moot. Once again, as I explained earlier and you skimmed over, a boomkin is NOT needed in a feral rogue cheese comp. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you won't be competing in the cup so you wouldn't have to experience the bs that is a turtle cheese comp if ferals WERe allowed.

Beat random bads in last years cup? I guess you could call Team ABN a bunch of bads but you'd be the only person doing so.



Well some teams this year may need ferals banned due to them not being skilled enough to deal with them. I also happened to see a video from the twink cup where you trinketed a rogue sap and blinked 2 seconds later. Helen Keller would have been able to sap your trinket in that scenario so just based off that one play I would assume the people you played hadn't a notion of what they were doing.

If anything I think we should promote more strats than just standard mid fighting until the fc gets 10 stacks and dies.

There are also tons of strats you can use to counter a Feral/Rogue cheese.

Lastly if you're going to call me a moron ill happily correct your apostrophe.
 
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Haha pretty sweet meme.

Sup man!

Should I equip one of my Gloomshrouds on a feral or no?

PS. /Wave Slyfox and Painaid... 2 of my favorite young players in all of Wow. Replace KP with Painaid and then again with Slyfox.

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Hey there MYT -

Sorry for the confusion. You are right... some of the old Dominate guys are coming into your guild and fielding a team with KP and PP. My toon isn't quite ready yet so isn't in your guild yet, but I was one of the guys playing scrimmages last night using my Kul Tiras toon.

Appreciate you making MYT such a great place for old school twinks to get together instead of getting super egotistical over exactly who has the <MYT> tag and who doesn't. Also appreciate the general principle behind your viewpoint "less rules is better".... you're kinda like the libertarian candidate in the twinking scene... smaller government! But like you said, sometimes people point things out to you over time. 3k fb's from ferals will just alter the entire strategy set of any match in ways that aren't good for competition/skill.

Hey, at least we don't have to spend 40 pages debating Magic Dust anymore, right? ;-) (yeah, I said it.... let the rants begin)


Lol - funny comment regarding the slander. I think he is in the guild but possibly not...but several of the dominate guys are. But they're currently putting a team together with KP/PP for the cup. So possibly different team but same guild is a good way to put it? MYT has become something of an old school home which I love so happy those guys are here.

Anyways regarding my position just a quick comment. Yes it did evolve over time but it evolved quite awhile ago - I just don't post every time I update my opinion on something. My point, which I still believe, is that less rules in general is a better approach when considering new rules. That being said, extreme cases such as feral can be exceptions to that general rule and over time I learned their one shot ridiculousness. So I evolved - just about 6 weeks ago, not last night. My other point is that we need to include more people in the decision making process and I think that's now the case.
 
Hey there MYT -

Sorry for the confusion. You are right... some of the old Dominate guys are coming into your guild and fielding a team with KP and PP. My toon isn't quite ready yet so isn't in your guild yet, but I was one of the guys playing scrimmages last night using my Kul Tiras toon.

Appreciate you making MYT such a great place for old school twinks to get together instead of getting super egotistical over exactly who has the <MYT> tag and who doesn't. Also appreciate the general principle behind your viewpoint "less rules is better".... you're kinda like the libertarian candidate in the twinking scene... smaller government! But like you said, sometimes people point things out to you over time. 3k fb's from ferals will just alter the entire strategy set of any match in ways that aren't good for competition/skill.

Hey, at least we don't have to spend 40 pages debating Magic Dust anymore, right? ;-) (yeah, I said it.... let the rants begin)

Sad thing is i don't think we can use Really Sticky Glue and Magic Dust in Wargames even if we secretly had stockpiles for years and made /target anarcan /cast macros bound to S, and even if we wanted to.



NO CC CONSUMABLES IN WARGAMES WTH BLIZZ IM OUT YOU KILLED TWINKING *ding*
 
I don't have a dog in this fight. All I will say is this, anything that can 100-0 a priest with a down cd is completely redic.



This. Thank you. It's not about whether it's fair or not. It's not about how many people will use it or not. It's about what it does to the entire metagame if it is used.... When I came back, the first time I saw a 3k fb I realized that entire premade strategies could be about turtling until your druid could get 5 combo points and stealth a 1 shot on the fc who has 5-10 stacks on him. Lame. On a smaller level, while it may be fair that both teams could 1-shot a fully shielded priest, it's not fun.
 
Sad thing is i don't think we can use Really Sticky Glue and Magic Dust in Wargames even if we secretly had stockpiles for years and made /target anarcan /cast macros bound to S, and even if we wanted to.



NO CC CONSUMABLES IN WARGAMES WTH BLIZZ IM OUT YOU KILLED TWINKING *ding*

Oh I've got a secret stash or two alright ;)
 
You just described exactly how <Make Your Time> beat <Dominate> on the PTR back in the old days, 3-1. Did they sell you their macros? Or just their dust?

;-)



Sad thing is i don't think we can use Really Sticky Glue and Magic Dust in Wargames even if we secretly had stockpiles for years and made /target anarcan /cast macros bound to S, and even if we wanted to.



NO CC CONSUMABLES IN WARGAMES WTH BLIZZ IM OUT YOU KILLED TWINKING *ding*
 
Ah ha - so that's where the rumors of us being a bunch of S keyers originated! Mocha you let the cat out of the bag!
 
Well some teams this year may need ferals banned due to them not being skilled enough to deal with them. I also happened to see a video from the twink cup where you trinketed a rogue sap and blinked 2 seconds later. Helen Keller would have been able to sap your trinket in that scenario so just based off that one play I would assume the people you played hadn't a notion of what they were doing.

If anything I think we should promote more strats than just standard mid fighting until the fc gets 10 stacks and dies.

There are also tons of strats you can use to counter a Feral/Rogue cheese.

Lastly if you're going to call me a moron ill happily correct your apostrophe.

There is more to the game than mid fighting until 10 stacks, with or without ferals. Unfortunately your guild hasn't caught on yet which is why they get 3 capped in under 10 minutes every time they lose mid.
 
Ah ha - so that's where the rumors of us being a bunch of S keyers originated! Mocha you let the cat out of the bag!

It's sad that there are people twinking these days that don't know what Magic Dust and Really Sticky Glue are......



Brb gotta go make some poisons for my 29 and farm up soul shards on my warlock after I level up my lock picking. Oh and I'm out of Shadow Oil. Can you hook me up? I'd say mail some but my mailbox is full of marks and I don't feel like dealing with that right now. Congrats on fishing boots last week and I totally could use a TBJ for my mage if you've got the funds bro.



Which reminds me, Priests were the ultimate twinks of the past. You needed to be LOADED to make one since every slot was BOE. I MISS IT IM GONNA CRY.
 
There is more to the game than mid fighting until 10 stacks, with or without ferals. Unfortunately your guild hasn't caught on yet which is why they get 3 capped in under 10 minutes every time they lose mid.

I'm not in a guild
 
Well some teams this year may need ferals banned due to them not being skilled enough to deal with them. I also happened to see a video from the twink cup where you trinketed a rogue sap and blinked 2 seconds later. Helen Keller would have been able to sap your trinket in that scenario so just based off that one play I would assume the people you played hadn't a notion of what they were doing.

If anything I think we should promote more strats than just standard mid fighting until the fc gets 10 stacks and dies.

There are also tons of strats you can use to counter a Feral/Rogue cheese.

Lastly if you're going to call me a moron ill happily correct your apostrophe.

I am glad you referenced that video! It wasn't one of the the brightest moments for the RBG heros, as I knew I had to delay trink by a sec and hope his positioning was off in order for it to work, otherwise idve been certainly dead.

As as mentioned by clarification there is a lot more to games than midfighting even though it may not seem so from the outside... I like to think of warsong as a chess match. The only strats to avoid a cheese feral/rogue would take all the fun out of the twink cup and promote turtling as they are safest. Myrm is a smart man and put an end to any thought of that.
 
I am glad you referenced that video! It wasn't one of the the brightest moments for the RBG heros, as I knew I had to delay trink by a sec and hope his positioning was off in order for it to work, otherwise idve been certainly dead.

As as mentioned by clarification there is a lot more to games than midfighting even though it may not seem so from the outside... I like to think of warsong as a chess match. The only strats to avoid a cheese feral/rogue would take all the fun out of the twink cup and promote turtling as they are safest. Myrm is a smart man and put an end to any thought of that.

As I said before I don't care weather or not ferals get banned. Just that someone has got to argue their case and as a lover of the spec through it's good times and bad ill gladly step up and argue it's case. But there is no denying it is stupid but i'm just not convinced it's stupid enough to take it over a Balance druid.
 

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