US State of the Bracket and re: 19 TC

[Aintabanka]

Banning a spec in PuGs is quite easy. We did it 39's when prot Warriors were the steamrollers by AFKing them out. 19's are a tight enough knit community, one would hope, that if 39's could accomplish this the 19's could as well. It has been done on more than one occasion.
Just give the person a nice message asking them to not run feral in 19's any more or you will be booted by the group. And then proceed to boot them. Don't be mean or nasty, sooner or later they will get the message and change specs. And someday when feral damage gets toned down they can come back and play that toon they love so much.

/cheers

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[Daddy]

Varies but unless someone is a RL friend of someone or something of that nature everyone here has some fairly developed premade experience....even if it occurred long ago.

One thing it doesn't mean is just old school....there's some non-old schoolers in the guild. But generally speaking we only accept twinks with good premade experience.

Not trying to overstep or anything, I do not doubt your experience, but I know for a fact that the majority of people that came from BH to your guild have years of farming free to plays under their belt and maybe one or two 8 man "premades". Could be a conspiracy.

 

[Drayner]

Should I equip one of my Gloomshrouds on a feral or no?

PS. /Wave Slyfox and Painaid... 2 of my favorite young players in all of Wow. Replace KP with Painaid and then again with Slyfox.

 

[Mocha]

Should I equip one of my Gloomshrouds on a feral or no?

PS. /Wave Slyfox and Painaid... 2 of my favorite young players in all of Wow. Replace KP with Painaid and then again with Slyfox.

I see your sly bank alt posting up mindthrusts on our AH you fool. You think you're so sneaky. ;D




Ohgod I said sly, no pun intended.

 

[Drayner]

I see your sly bank alt posting up mindthrusts on our AH you fool. You think you're so sneaky. ;D

Now that Dragonmaw and Akama are together, it truly is "our" AH. I have quite a few toons on Dragonmaw Alliance from a 24 guild a few years ago.

 

[Mocha]

Now that Dragonmaw and Akama are together, it truly is "our" AH. I have quite a few toons on Dragonmaw Alliance from a 24 guild a few years ago.

Okay well I'm looking forward towards you updating a horde 19 to play with us baddies see you soon k bye

 

[Bacon]

Clarification is correct. The suggestion is not banning druids (as an entire class). It's banning feral druids. Period. The reasons have already been stated, so you already know the answer as to why.

Yes but in premades you're only allowed x2 of each class. Hence taking a feral will limit you to choosing between a boomkin or resto druid. Also ferals are not limited to one team so every team can take a feral therefore there is no real unfairness and I don't see the need to ban them

-I mean't to say spec but said class can everyone get over themselfs.

 

[Bacon]

You shouldn't use a word if you clearly don't know its meaning.

A typo is a typographical error. Me accidentally typing Class instead of Spec is exactly this.. you sir are the one that needs to learn the meaning of words. (Typing Class instead of Spec is a typo)

 

[Darkchewie]

Yes but in premades you're only allowed x2 of each class. Hence taking a feral will limit you to choosing between a boomkin or resto druid. Also ferals are not limited to one team so every team can take a feral therefore there is no real unfairness and I don't see the need to ban them

Luckily for the 19 community you are not in a position to make any decisions

 

[Bacon]

Luckily for the 19 community you are not in a position to make any decisions

As far as I was concerned this was a Discussion and here on TI I have as much rights to an opinion as everyone else here. I also find it ironic how it's mainly the fcs I see complaining. I don't think ferals should be banned, but I can see why people would want them banned. The fact that they're "op" doesn't change the fact any team can use them and in a premade environment also Resto druids and Boomkins would be equally valuable in premades. Maybe less skilled fcs (such as you?) might complain but that's just the way the world is.

Also I never saw hunters get banned when they 2 hit stuff with ranged attacks.

 

[Darkchewie]

As far as I was concerned this was a Discussion and here on TI I have as much rights to an opinion as everyone else here. I also find it ironic how it's mainly the fcs I see complaining. I don't think ferals should be banned, but I can see why people would want them banned. The fact that they're "op" doesn't change the fact any team can use them and in a premade environment also Resto druids and Boomkins would be equally valuable in premades. Maybe less skilled fcs (such as you?) might complain but that's just the way the world is.

Also I never saw hunters get banned when they 2 hit stuff with ranged attacks.

Youre free to express your worthless opinion all you want, as I have made very clear it is a great thing that you don't make any decisions. You have 0 knowledge of the 19s meta from a competitive standpoint, it's blatantly obvious your a nobody who prides himself on 24s and wouldn't be competent enough to play with the basement dwellers of 19. Just FCs complaining? Lol it's just me and hb so yeah 2/100 of the complainers are FCs who just happen to be on the only two teams with a chance to win the cup. Every person with any credibility in the bracket has been calling for their ban for months as they promote cheese tactics and stalling. There is no skill involved in getting out of a one shot in a feral stun without a trinket, nice try bud. Please continue

 

[MYT]

Youre free to express your worthless opinion all you want, as I have made very clear it is a great thing that you don't make any decisions. You have 0 knowledge of the 19s meta from a competitive standpoint, it's blatantly obvious your a nobody who prides himself on 24s and wouldn't be competent enough to play with the basement dwellers of 19. Just FCs complaining? Lol it's just me and hb so yeah 2/100 of the complainers are FCs who just happen to be on the only two teams with a chance to win the cup. Every person with any credibility in the bracket has been calling for their ban for months as they promote cheese tactics and stalling. There is no skill involved in getting out of a one shot in a feral stun without a trinket, nice try bud. Please continue

Quoting for sole purpose of capturing the "only two teams with a chance at winning the cup" so I can revisit after the cup.

 

[clarification]

A typo is a typographical error. Me accidentally typing Class instead of Spec is exactly this.. you sir are the one that needs to learn the meaning of words. (Typing Class instead of Spec is a typo)

You have no idea what typographical means, do you?

 

[artonkn]

Youre free to express your worthless opinion all you want, as I have made very clear it is a great thing that you don't make any decisions. You have 0 knowledge of the 19s meta from a competitive standpoint, it's blatantly obvious your a nobody who prides himself on 24s and wouldn't be competent enough to play with the basement dwellers of 19. Just FCs complaining? Lol it's just me and hb so yeah 2/100 of the complainers are FCs who just happen to be on the only two teams with a chance to win the cup. Every person with any credibility in the bracket has been calling for their ban for months as they promote cheese tactics and stalling. There is no skill involved in getting out of a one shot in a feral stun without a trinket, nice try bud. Please continue

Lol only 2 teams with a chance. You know nothing of the multiple EU / EU US mix teams playing

 

[Darkchewie]

Lol only 2 teams with a chance. You know nothing of the multiple EU / EU US mix teams playing

I do and I stand by my statement without question

Things may change in a few months time but currently my statement is 100% accurate

 

[clarification]

Lol only 2 teams with a chance. You know nothing of the multiple EU / EU US mix teams playing

Judging by their current performances in the gulch they need to catch up quite a bit.

 

[Bacon]

Youre free to express your worthless opinion all you want, as I have made very clear it is a great thing that you don't make any decisions. You have 0 knowledge of the 19s meta from a competitive standpoint, it's blatantly obvious your a nobody who prides himself on 24s and wouldn't be competent enough to play with the basement dwellers of 19. Just FCs complaining? Lol it's just me and hb so yeah 2/100 of the complainers are FCs who just happen to be on the only two teams with a chance to win the cup. Every person with any credibility in the bracket has been calling for their ban for months as they promote cheese tactics and stalling. There is no skill involved in getting out of a one shot in a feral stun without a trinket, nice try bud. Please continue

Your cockiness will be your own demise. Ill just put this into perspective so lesser minds can understand (Yep i'm talking to you again "bud"). If a team happens to run a feral comp they will firstly lose out on rogue utility, secondly they will lose out on a Druid fc (which highly out classes the rest of the fcs), a Resto druid (again one of the top healers due to their ability to peel off and help fc) and a Boomkin (this more or less spams one buttons and has 3 stacks of a spell which practically oneshots people from range). Taking a feral will have a huge impact on your teamcomp. Again I find it ironic that the guild least effected by a feral ban is the one which seems to care the most about banning it. I do not care weather or not ferals are banned i'm just giving you reasons why they shouldn't be. I'd suggest you screw your arrogant little head back on and realise that.

On another note "your a nobody who prides himself on 24s and wouldn't be competent enough to play with the basement dwellers of 19." Yes I do play 29s as do you and your guild so I don't understand this stupid hypocrisy, not that I care, you're just another random US who seems to think he's good or something. I'd appreciate you would take my points to heart and understand this is merely an insight.


"There is no skill involved in getting out of a one shot in a feral stun without a trinket" Considering most of the classes in this bracket have less than an action bar of abilities it can be argued that none of the classes takes skill in this bracket.

and there are far more than 2 teams with a chance..

 

[MYT]

I do and I stand by my statement without question

Things may change in a few months time but currently my statement is 100% accurate

Well as of today you're absolutely correct - in the sense of if it was this weekend or even in 2-3 weeks. But it's in 4 months.

 

[Darkchewie]

Your cockiness will be your own demise. Ill just put this into perspective so lesser minds can understand (Yep i'm talking to you again "bud"). If a team happens to run a feral comp they will firstly lose out on rogue utility, secondly they will lose out on a Druid fc (which highly out classes the rest of the fcs), a Resto druid (again one of the top healers due to their ability to peel off and help fc) and a Boomkin (this more or less spams one buttons and has 3 stacks of a spell which practically oneshots people from range). Taking a feral will have a huge impact on your teamcomp. Again I find it ironic that the guild least effected by a feral ban is the one which seems to care the most about banning it. I do not care weather or not ferals are banned i'm just giving you reasons why they shouldn't be. I'd suggest you screw your arrogant little head back on and realise that.

On another note "your a nobody who prides himself on 24s and wouldn't be competent enough to play with the basement dwellers of 19." Yes I do play 29s as do you and your guild so I don't understand this stupid hypocrisy, not that I care, you're just another random US who seems to think he's good or something. I'd appreciate you would take my points to heart and understand this is merely an insight.


"There is no skill involved in getting out of a one shot in a feral stun without a trinket" Considering most of the classes in this bracket have less than an action bar of abilities it can be argued that none of the classes takes skill in this bracket.

and there are far more than 2 teams with a chance..

Resto Druids do not count towards the current 2 stealth limit. So no you do not lose out on a resto fc Druid by using a feral. And you do not lose a rogue.. Teams could use feral/rogue and a resto Druid. All you give up is a Boomkin and a team tailored around a feral stalling strat doesn't need a boomkin. I mean if you really want to get into it we were the only team to not use a boomkin last year (everyone thought it absurd) and it turned out pretty well obviously.

The fact that you insinuate non of the classes take skill at 19 to counter my feral argument is absurd. You can counter other classes abilities and movements that's the point of 2 teams playing in warsong, ferals bypass that completely.

Youre a moron, stop posting.

 

[Iamsmoke]

Resto Druids do not count towards the current 2 stealth limit. So no you do not lose out on a resto fc Druid by using a feral. And you do not lose a rogue.. Teams could use feral/rogue and a resto Druid. All you give up is a Boomkin and a team tailored around a feral stalling strat doesn't need a boomkin. I mean if you really want to get into it we were the only team to not use a boomkin last year (everyone thought it absurd) and it turned out pretty well obviously.

The fact that you insinuate non of the classes take skill at 19 to counter my feral argument is absurd. You can counter other classes abilities and movements that the point of 2 teams playing in warsong, ferals bypass that completely.

Youre a moron, stop posting.

I don't have a dog in this fight. All I will say is this, anything that can 100-0 a priest with a down cd is completely redic.