SL Guide and FAQs

[Chops]

If Arms ends up being good I might roll a warrior in SL, it is one of the classes that I want to play a lot but on the other hand do not want to go with a too weak spec. This definitely does not seem weak though

I mean, I played twink warriors in every xpac since TBC and there are some where they are certainly weak but theyre never not fun.

I do look forward to all the fotm fury players suddenly discovering that "man, i just like the way arms feels, ya know" in a couple weeks.

 

[Katrex]

I mean, I played twink warriors in every xpac since TBC and there are some where they are certainly weak but theyre never not fun.

I do look forward to all the fotm fury players suddenly discovering that "man, i just like the way arms feels, ya know" in a couple weeks.

Don't get me wrong, I have tried playing a warrior so far, although with various results.
On the other hand though, I personally hate going fotm and find playing the top tier specs a guilty pleasure. And again I do not want to gimp my team by missplaying on a weak spec.

 

[Arkant]

To be honest most classes hit for dumb damage if Blizzard doesn't get their shit together.

 

[handsomedgc]

Thats kinda the idea. It'll be an interesting playstyle come SL now that it has a little CC and a defensive CD. Way more fun and dynamic than it currently is... which is still very fun.

I'll be beta and roll a healer and looking for an arms daddy.

 

[Warriors101]

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To be fair thats a 45 second cooldown, has a 4 second ish cast, is not guaranteed to crit, and actually does more dmg then chaos bolt(even with the 40% honor talent). its like a stronger pyroblast or the greater pyroblast without the % dmg and a much longer cooldown.

 

[Conzil]

What's your logic behind it *necessarily* being level 20? I'd love to hear it.

I actually have a few reasons (sorry if it’s a bit messy, writing from my phone)

1. From a business standpoint it looks bad to lower the starter edition or free trial level cap even if there is a level squish, it would just make them look greedy.

2. Level 1-10 in Shadowlands will be a lot faster than what level 1-20 currently is, instead of it taking like 4 hours for a new player to level from 1-20, it will instead take that player maybe 1 hour 30 min to level from 1-10, the new player won’t have enough time to learn all the mechanics before they are max level, and they most likely won’t stick around if they can’t keep leveling due to the cap, and they won’t buy the game if they havn’t had time to understand all mechanics.

3. Level 10 lack spells, a lot of ”core” abilities are missing, just like mentioned above new players won’t be able to get a good feel for the class and know if its worth buying the game.

The only reason starter edition or free trial exist, is to convince new players to test the game and eventually buy it, level 20 gives more content and has better class balance than 10. At the same time, they won’t gain any ”amazing” thing that for example normal players could exploit by having multiple accs without game time, so there really is no reason to actually change it to 10.

4. This is my favorite and just a lil bonus, currently on the ptr https://ptr.wowhead.com/achievement=10657/fledgling-hero-of-warcraft requires level 20, even tho a lot of achievement levels has already been changed, this one has stayed the same. There is no way Blizzard is gonna force people to get game time to get this Hearthstone card, whatever this achievement says, will be our cap.

(sry if this makes no sense, like I said im on phone and just writing down my thoughts on the matter)

 

[eluni]

I actually have a few reasons

If my memory serves me well, starter editions with 20 level cap were introduced during Cata when the highest level was 85. If we were to get back to the original ratio of f2p to highest, it would be level 14 or 15. So my guestimate is anywhere between 10 and 20.

 

[BANKONE]

With the way Blizz has been forgetting level requirements. I think it’s more likely they forgot to level gate that ONE achievement versus all the evidence in scaling pointing to lv 10

 

[Hashbrowns]

There is no way these tokens aren't hotfixed. They just don't scale, at all. Same ilvl at 50 as it is at 1. They aren't keeping this. Maybe Legion dungeon gear sticks at ilvl 44 but that makes no sense either. Everything else is ilvl 14.

 

[Warriors101]

There is no way these tokens aren't hotfixed. They just don't scale, at all. Same ilvl at 50 as it is at 1. They aren't keeping this. Maybe Legion dungeon gear sticks at ilvl 44 but that makes no sense either. Everything else is ilvl 14.

Legion might get grandfathered, tokens definitely are getting fixed. Use them while you can lol.

 

[Hashbrowns]

Here's 2 pieces of 8 on a lvl 1 shaman. Plate, with all 8 pieces, might be damn near 100% damage red

 

[irlsteven]

 

[DeLindsay]

Except Armor reduction is capped so it doesn't matter if you hit 100%.

 

[Warriors101]

Except Armor reduction is capped so it doesn't matter if you hit 100%.

wait so even if it says 100% its not?

 

[Conzil]

I think it’s more likely they forgot to level gate that ONE achievement versus all the evidence in scaling pointing to lv 10

What evidence?
Are you talking about the ONLY thing that makes people think it’s going to be 10?

”wE GeT sqUisHeD tO lEveL 10, sO ThAts tHe cAP”

And did you miss all my other arguments, I legit said that was a bonus thing.

 

[DeLindsay]

wait so even if it says 100% its not?

Correct. I can't remember the exact value but I believe it's 70%.

 

[Daltert Moropi]

What evidence?
Are you talking about the ONLY thing that makes people think it’s going to be 10?

The problem isn’t having the mindset of 10, it’s from the business stand point why people think it’s gonna be 10.

I forget where I posted this information on here before. but if 20 becomes the new ftp/btp cap, literally 30%-40% of the game becomes for free. That’s 1/3 to 2/5 of the game in context of 10%-20% or 1/10 to 1/5 what is in the ptr.

To put in perspective, remember my findings thread on here with the maps. Nearly double or half of the current zones on them would be unlocked and up for grabs in both quests and dungeons.

On top of that, if the higher end players find out that a good chunk of the game is for free, would they return to end-end game (what blizz wants) or beginning-end game?

true, it sucks for certain classes (looks at mages) but, would you sacrifice a couple of spells or have a higher risk the game falling on its face if SL fails miserably?

 

[Mrfathed]

Correct. I can't remember the exact value but I believe it's 70%.

IIRC, the armor cap was always 75% reduction from targets 3 levels above you, at max level. How the calculations work at non max level and against a similar level target, I haven't a clue.

 

[Hashbrowns]

What evidence?
Are you talking about the ONLY thing that makes people think it’s going to be 10?

”wE GeT sqUisHeD tO lEveL 10, sO ThAts tHe cAP”

And did you miss all my other arguments, I legit said that was a bonus thing.

I mean...

 

[Chops]

Are you talking about the ONLY thing that makes people think it’s going to be 10?

Dont forget that the brand new starter zone is designed to be 1-10 and that new accounts will be forced to start in the starting zone and may not be able to leave it...