Seperating the pack: Good vs. Bad players

jwl

FC - Pagle
I am interested in hearing everybody's opinion on this matter. What exactly makes a good player, a good player? What exactly makes a bad player, a bad player? Lets get in depth: talk macros, positioning, communication, whatever you think the variable may be, mention it.
 
A good player is an asset that pushes the team to victory through whatever is needed at any given moment, AKA playing objectives. Sometimes the objective is to recover a flag, assist a teamfight to free up players so they can move on to different objectives (this is very different than the usual "fighting at mid" thing), etc. The skillset necessary for someone to be a good player, from this perspective, is relatively simple but uncommon, basic class knowledge, of both your class and your enemies', and situtional awareness. The latter being the most important as it allows you to take informed decisions that dictate your next action towards team victory.

A bad player is anyone, regardless of skill level, that does not contribute towards the team victory. It does not matter how many BG/arena addons, macros and whatnot this person has, it does not matter how good he is at his role (dps/heal/tank) and inflating numbers, nor does it matter how good he is at 1v1. This is not an argument against the lone wolf kind of player (as I am one myself), but plain and simple saying that if you do not play objectives, then you are not a good player.

TL;DR
Instanced PvP is a team effort, if you use your skills to push your team to victory, then you are a good player. Anything else is just bad.
 

So deep!
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A good player is an asset that pushes the team to victory through whatever is needed at any given moment, AKA playing objectives. Sometimes the objective is to recover a flag, assist a teamfight to free up players so they can move on to different objectives (this is very different than the usual "fighting at mid" thing), etc. The skillset necessary for someone to be a good player, from this perspective, is relatively simple but uncommon, basic class knowledge, of both your class and your enemies', and situtional awareness. The latter being the most important as it allows you to take informed decisions that dictate your next action towards team victory.

A bad player is anyone, regardless of skill level, that does not contribute towards the team victory. It does not matter how many BG/arena addons, macros and whatnot this person has, it does not matter how good he is at his role (dps/heal/tank) and inflating numbers, nor does it matter how good he is at 1v1. This is not an argument against the lone wolf kind of player (as I am one myself), but plain and simple saying that if you do not play objectives, then you are not a good player.

TL;DR
Instanced PvP is a team effort, if you use your skills to push your team to victory, then you are a good player. Anything else is just bad.

I'd agree with you but go even further to include understanding mentalities of other players. Knowing how your enemy is going to react to you can be half the battle.
 
Know your role, know what fights to push and which ones not too, play objectives, communication, call early incs.

Bad players just ego challenge everyone, play for kbs, and talk shit to everyone.
 
Probably just a troll don't get jabaited.

You're exactly correct. he is just mad he couldn't 1+ me all of WOD :)
Watch him mention the fact he 1 shotted me in a 5v5 1v1 skirmish on his 29 feral, as I was resto with 10+ stacks of dampening lol
 
a good player knows hes good and doesn't need justification from people on the forums or any1 to stroke his ego
 
a good player knows hes good and doesn't need justification from people on the forums or any1 to stroke his ego

I am just looking for perspectives from other players in the twink community. I have my own thoughts and opinions on this subject :)
 
I am just looking for perspectives from other players in the twink community. I have my own thoughts and opinions on this subject :)
Looks like a PuG player looking for compliments from my point of view.
But thats none of my business.
 
Looks like a PuG player looking for compliments from my point of view.
But thats none of my business.

How am I fishing for compliments? I asked "what makes a good player, good? What makes a bad player, bad?" Nowhere in those questions was I requesting players critique me in any way, I simply want to hear diverse opinions on the subject. The fact you'd think otherwise tells me you have some sort of unsettled beef with me lol
 
How am I fishing for compliments? I asked "what makes a good player, good? What makes a bad player, bad?" Nowhere in those questions was I requesting players critique me in any way, I simply want to hear diverse opinions on the subject. The fact you'd think otherwise tells me you have some sort of unsettled beef with me lol
Just ignore him bro, his forum avi is of Lil Xan, he’s obviously a badass.
 

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