Separate f2p/veteran forums discussion

Daltert Moropi said:
sir/mam, most of the Vets on here are either upgraded their ftp accounts and don't go the extra mile because they want to maintain either friendships and/or to used to being part of this bracket or p2p that downgraded their accounts that excepted defeat to ftp and/or don't see the point of being mega-uber to crush anymore.

to say that is like saying trucks are not part of the automobile family.
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(its sir)

Vets are p2p accounts that are frozen. Even though there are some f2ps that have gone vet their are a lot of people that play vet from other brackets as well. Vet is just a cheaper p2p since many fraction change,get unobtainable gear and enchants the normal f2p cant get. I understand many players that play both want to stay apart of the f2p section because they have history with it , but the truth of the matter is they have stepped away from f2p to p2p accounts some subs elapsed some not. F2P section would just be a click away anyway.
 
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Felfiend said:
dude... I guess were not family even though most of us have been playing f2p from the start?
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Most Vets have not played f2p from the start and most Vets I see here have not played f2p from the start. Just because a few oldies play vets doesn't mean it should stay with F2P. Not to mention a lot of these f2ps to Vet quit the game and became very inactive in Mop and some Wod.
 
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Trialmop said:
Most Vets have not played f2p from the start and most Vets I see here have not played f2p from the start. Just because a few oldies play vets doesn't mean it should stay with F2P. Not to mention a lot of these f2ps to Vet quit the game and became very inactive in Mop and some Wod.
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Do you know why us f2p to vets went inactive?? it's because of this shit, even though we have been f2ps for years, suddenly we were thrown out and ignored by the f2p community. If you just became more accepting it would be fine, your the reason we left, the reason you only see p2p go to vet is because all the f2p to vet people quit because of the ties they lost to the f2p community, while the p2p to vets didn't have this connection
 
You still have not provided any concrete reason why the forum needs to be further subdivided. All I see are a lot of negative sentiments and perceived animosity amidst comments by myself and others questioning "what animosity?" I don't see a problem with the forum or it's current setup.
 
PepeLePewPew said:
You still have not provided any concrete reason why the forum needs to be further subdivided. All I see are a lot of negative sentiments and perceived animosity amidst comments by myself and others questioning "what animosity?" I don't see a problem with the forum or it's current setup.
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I have in earlier post if you read them. There has been no concrete reason at all or proven reason why Vets should stay Why don't you address that. .
 
Felfiend said:
Do you know why us f2p to vets went inactive?? it's because of this shit, even though we have been f2ps for years, suddenly we were thrown out and ignored by the f2p community. If you just became more accepting it would be fine, your the reason we left, the reason you only see p2p go to vet is because all the f2p to vet people quit because of the ties they lost to the f2p community, while the p2p to vets didn't have this connection
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Yes I have talked to you ingame about it in the past. Why don't we just make another section for f2ps as in the ones who don't have enchants and pay for the game, so we are not bunched together with this vet stuff. All I would like to see is a spot just for f2ps. you could keep this section that some of you built up and we would get a entirely new one. That seems to fit both of our views with separate forums.
 
PepeLePewPew said:
Because there are more commonalities than differences and we often play together.
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Most F2Ps don't play with vets by choice, we are in same bg bracket so that's how it is. Have you not noticed Vets not having any events what so ever? Or the fact F2P makes it clear that Vets are banned from many community things. Vets are a separate community like 29s just in same bracket. Vets have a lot less in common than some people think.
 
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I only random bg and do not participate in events. I have not experienced any of the exclusions you mention while finding this site of use. Maybe there's the problem. You want a site devoted to exclusive events (which not every user of this site participates in). If the administrator shares your view I suppose you'll get your wish.
 
PepeLePewPew said:
I have not experienced any of the exclusions you mention while finding this site of use.
I only random bg and do not participate in events.
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That's how it is for most vets and you basically validate what I am saying. Vets in game and even on TI are very separate communities they just have some common players and share bgs, that's about it.
 
I'm just ready to see if Vets and F2Ps sub-forums get split or not. The suspense is killing me.
 
But what YOU are missing is, I find this site of use as it is and will find it less so (more cumbersome) if it is further subdivided. The tags already provide a useful subdivision. I still see no concrete reasoning beyond making it a site catering to exclusive events. It's a community with variations. You want to divide it despite clear demonstrable overlaps.
 
PepeLePewPew said:
But what YOU are missing is, I find this site of use as it is and will find it less so (more cumbersome) if it is further subdivided. The tags already provide a useful subdivision. I still see no concrete reasoning beyond making it a site catering to exclusive events. It's a community with variations. You want to divide it despite clear demonstrable overlaps.
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Lol community with variations idk, Vets and F2P are clearly 2 communities in one section of TI. The click trouble isn't that much, I don't where its that big of a deal.
 
ßurg said:
I'm just ready to see if Vets and F2Ps sub-forums get split or not. The suspense is killing me.
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Yeah, everyone's points are basically out now its at a point we are reiterating our points and reasons, some in more detail.
 
Trialmop said:
Vets are p2p accounts that are frozen. Even though there are some f2ps that have gone vet their are a lot of people that play vet from other brackets as well. Vet is just a cheaper p2p since many fraction change,get unobtainable gear and enchants the normal f2p cant get. I understand many players that play both want to stay apart of the f2p section because they have history with it , but the truth of the matter is they have stepped away from f2p to p2p accounts some subs elapsed some not. F2P section would just be a click away anyway.
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actually trialmop, vets are b2p in the warcraft universe. true that they're just shutdown versions of the p2p with f2p restrictions, but I wouldn't go to an extent to say vets are the exact same as p2p with one key difference.
 
Daltert Moropi said:
actually trialmop, vets are b2p in the warcraft universe. true that they're just shutdown versions of the p2p with f2p restrictions, but I wouldn't go to an extent to say vets are the exact same as p2p with one key difference.
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I agree I don't mean they are exactly the same but it seems to lean more towards p2p
when we list similarities and differences. Thanks for that B2P haven't seen many people say it.
 
Trialmop said:
The click trouble isn't that much, I don't where its that big of a deal.
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Clicking on tags is difficult? You want to take a site that is perfectly usable in a practical sense for the whole of starters/vets (including players who play both) and make it less convenient especially for those who don't care about events so that you won't have to associate with vets. See? Sometimes reiteration can clarify.
 
PepeLePewPew said:
Clicking on tags is difficult? You want to take a site that is perfectly usable in a practical sense for the whole of starters/vets (including players who play both) and make it less convenient especially for those who don't care about events so that you won't have to associate with vets. See? Sometimes reiteration can clarify.
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Not exactly as you said but I think everyone understands the different point of views as of now. I play both Vet and F2P I just want F2P to have its own separate section because it is indeed separate in many ways from Vet communities/activities.
 
For the sake of arguments and selective information on each type of gameplay; seperating us would be a good idea.

But i shouldn't need to say anything with how obvious that statement is.
 
Felfiend said:
Do you know why us f2p to vets went inactive?? it's because of this shit, even though we have been f2ps for years, suddenly we were thrown out and ignored by the f2p community. If you just became more accepting it would be fine, your the reason we left, the reason you only see p2p go to vet is because all the f2p to vet people quit because of the ties they lost to the f2p community, while the p2p to vets didn't have this connection
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we never liked p2ps, now u guys go vets that is as OP as 29s but without glyphs, wut did u guys expect? love?

ty vets for 1shoting me and using food buff bug.
 
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