Separate f2p/veteran forums discussion

Is everyone else blind to the redundancy of the current setup?

So much bickering and hair-pulling is appealing to those looking to join in I'm sure. I always look for the most fractured and dramatic guild, don't you?
Best of luck though. I hope this works out.
 
It was already divided like this and the subsection got removed shortly after because people "hated" it. Now it somehow is a great success and a victory over filthy veteran p2ps. :cool:

couldnt u just have read? or u need english classes?


"I've added a f2p subforum for now. The goal is to create a forum"
 
How is it that starters having their own sub-forum will lead to players being more toxic?

When level 20 twinking meant starter, this section was one of the less dramatic on TI. P2P twinking at 19 and 24 were the sections filled with drama with the players with horseshit attitudes.

Those were the same players who spent their time /spitting while they GY farmed with their guilds every night.

So no, not all P2Ps are toxic. Not all of them ruin what would otherwise be an excellent gaming experience. Not all of them believe that their dominance comes from skill rather than gear.

But most of them do.

That's the problem. Obviously the issue has become more complex with many F2Ps transitioning to Veteran. That is what it is, and the bracket cannot help that. The very least that can happen is that the few remaining starters get their own place to communicate with each other, since they are now the minority in the level 20 bracket.

There are natural divisions in-game that suit themselves well to divisions on the forums. It is the choice of starters to have our own section. It is not your decision to exclude us from having one.

So please enough of this "starters spread hate" bullshit. That's asinine - some people are going to be toxic, just as some p2ps will be as well. That has no bearing on whether or not the communities as a whole should be separated.

The differences have always outweighed the similarities - and if starters (or veterans) need more players to make an event happen, they can easily shoot a message to the respective forum or send a message on the many skype groups.

You would know that if you had been active in this bracket over the past 4 years like I have, friend. But thank you for, what was it again? Being one of the first on AP years ago? That's uh, cool. How many 10v10s have you organized? How many tournaments have you organized? How many arenas have you put together amongst a handful of a declining community at 2 in the morning? How have you been a leader?
Geesh what a bull post. You clearly have no understanding of structure and databasing. Reading problems on top of that. I've always been for seperation of standard and veteran trial accounts only the place of it is wrong. If you want to list a sub play-style of a certain bracket you place it in the most logical way and the best way to present the whole bracket and that is not the case now. Making a specialsnowflake section is toxic on itself. Standard and Vet are both sub play-styles of the 20-29 bracket.

I am not here to argue and/or about f2p vs vet vs p2p like you, I can keep my head clear and focus on the topic and problem. Just stop lighting fires without a reason.
 
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Geesh what a bull post. You clearly have no understanding of structure and databasing. Reading problems on top of that. I've always been for seperation of standard and veteran trial accounts only the place of it is wrong. If you want to list a sub play-style of a certain bracket you place it in the most logical way and the best way to present the whole bracket and that is not the case now. Making a specialsnowflake section is toxic on itself. Standard and Vet are both sub play-styles of the 20-29 bracket.

I am not here to argue and/or about f2p vs vet vs p2p like you, I can keep my head clear and focus on the topic and problem. Just stop lighting fires without a reason.

You didn't address my post at all. Ad Hominem followed by burning that strawman of what you believe my argument to be, rather than actually contesting anything I'm saying.

If that's your transition to wanting to leave this discussion, then go. Clearly the bracket doesn't need you to be successful.
 
You didn't address my post at all. Ad Hominem followed by burning that strawman of what you believe my argument to be, rather than actually contesting anything I'm saying.

If that's your transition to wanting to leave this discussion, then go. Clearly the bracket doesn't need you to be successful.
Not adressing your post cause it is just baiting and offtopic.
 
Yes, the irony... And I am still waiting on those PMs.

OT,
One of the debate points for developing a separate section for Starters was because of "relevant" threads being buried.
If you go to the "f2p" section now there are no "relevant" threads. Perhaps one or two. Infact, there is one that the last post was ten days ago.
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