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inoobupro said:
so yeah quoting myself can someone do the math for alliance rogues in comparison to horde rogues, night elf or human/gnome vs blood elf, factor strength in ,etc

im counting, in comparison to alliance hunters only having 60ish more AP and 6% crit more than horde,

buffed alliance has almost 100 more AP and 6% crit , 210 life(nonscaled) more

plz dont bother throwing in orc or troll, as rogue those races are fucking worthless at level 20 pvp
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I can but there would all sorts of RP BS in there like "I thrust my mighty dagger into his flesh for 500 damage!" Also I only do orc and troll numbas, I don't like any other races. If they could battle each other and RP that would be ideal.
 
Hashbrowns said:
I can but there would all sorts of RP BS in there like "I thrust my mighty dagger into his flesh for 500 damage!" Also I only do orc and troll numbas, I don't like any other races. If they could battle each other and RP that would be ideal.
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yeah without the trolls how are we supose to know to " Stay away from the voodoo!'
 
paranoi said:
Guys, is there an upper limit on the cost of class spec change at class trainers? So far it seems that with each change the cost grows, but I read somewhere there is a cost limit that depends on char level. I wonder if someone can confirm this?
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dont wory about it the cost will always be less than the gold cap so u will never be stuck as one spec
 
What's an active f2p US server that is active and has people on and they are good and active with groups of players who are active?
 
How much hit prot pallys need to be hit caped against lvl 24-26 mobs?
+17 hit seems not enough lol
 
Lil said:
anyone else find it hilarious the amount of 24s that are flooded the bracket now that the first 2 rounds of the 19 tourney is over?


I wonder where they came from :rolleyes:
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:eek: you too? I thought i was going insane of the increased amount of 24s that have joined the bracket...they have like 10 other brackets to choose from and they come to faceroll us..both alliance and horde alike...good to see im not the only one who noticed this.
 
Pooh said:
:eek: you too? I thought i was going insane of the increased amount of 24s that have joined the bracket...they have like 10 other brackets to choose from and they come to faceroll us..both alliance and horde alike...good to see im not the only one who noticed this.
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Tries to play in the 19 tourney - Only good enough to be a backup.



Plays in the 24 bracket - Barely good enough to beat f2ps.


Think that has something to do with it. Nonetheless these 24s are making some good games facing our misha f2ps ;)
 
Lil said:
Tries to play in the 19 tourney - Only good enough to be a backup.



Plays in the 24 bracket - Barely good enough to beat f2ps.


Think that has something to do with it. Nonetheless these 24s are making some good games facing our misha f2ps ;)
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Lol at the fail attempts on being supportive in 19 and 24

I also have to catch up on Misha..fuck you lack of time

Just stay at 90 you 24s and and stop sucking at our bracket...but then again thats why you decide to come to us to show you real skill.
 
Adal said:
Newsflash: people don't play 24s because they lack skill, they play 24s because it's fun. Terrorising a bg is much more fun to some people than being equal or less powerful than others (I too enjoy pwning F2P kiddies).
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Hmm then again its all based one how people see it...my apologies.
 
another newsflash : 19s are probably 10x times more competitive than anything f2ps have seen in years of playing 20-24.

They actually take a real FC tank spec to cross mid and cap(yay!) because a mongoloid FC'ing hunter/resto druid actually gets killed in mid

Translation of f2p shittrs who never done an arena( not that twink arenas are a shitstorm in itself though) who endlessly que for bgs and think they are entitled to something:

C O T U S said:
"i enjoy beating up players who are worse than me in BGs, because it's easy and it lets me feel good about myself. sure, these players oftentimes are playing on hunters and 24s, so it's difficult, but it still gives me the satisfaction that i'm better than them and even that i am better than them to the extent that i can still overcome them at a disadvantage. and even better, if or when i lose, i can just blame my failures on hunters, 24s, or bad teammates, and i can still feel good about myself.

i don't want to do arenas because it would mean that i have to play with people who are as good as me or better. i don't think that this would be fun because all i really want out of this silly game is to log in, mindlessly own some noobs, and chat with some nice people on my server. i don't actually want to put in any effort when i PvP, or any effort to get better, because honestly these things aren't really relevant to my enjoyment."
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inoobupro said:
another newsflash : 19s are probably 10x times more competitive than anything f2ps have seen in years of playing 20-24.

They actually take a real FC tank spec to cross mid and cap(yay!) because a mongoloid FC'ing hunter/resto druid actually gets killed in mid

Translation of f2p shittrs who never done an arena( not that twink arenas are a shitstorm in itself though) who endlessly que for bgs and think they are entitled to something:
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Tanks can stack massive HP in bgs and still be capable of doing good damage.

Unlike this bracket (there are nay sayers) in 19s players are "somewhat balanced" because:
Shadow Priests dont exist in 19s

Frost mages only got frost bolt as their main spell (24s get ice lance which is dangerous in this bracket)

Hunters dont have pet spells for support.

Locked battle grounds at 19 most players have 90 enchants to increase their stam, str, agi, int, or go with extra protection such as Colossus or more attacking with Elemental force.

Crip poison isnt available for rogues...letting classes like Paladin, Druid, Shaman to still have their mobility

Denounce (i believe is lvl 20) making holy shock, judgment, and Crusader strike as your 3 main spells for dmg instead of denounce spam.

No mounts for players at lvl 19 making players having to be at the right place at the right time or else fcs like paladins or druids get through mid fast unlike this bracket where players derp in the mid then mount up and chase efcs around the field.

No aoe for warriors

Monks can catch up to players as well as escape.

Locks dont get pet specials like hunters as well.

Flumigation doesn't exist in 19s making earthshock less viable compared to flameshock keeping a dot effect on rogues

Players have to be more cooperative in order to hunt down efcs

Shaman at 19 dont get perma-slow like at lvl 24

Many of the f2ps are players who had just started the game, players who are "ok ill just go in and kill stuff because thats all i do from 1-20 "...19s have a lot more experience handling pvp like this due to raids and other things like arenas (strategic movements)

Hunters only cc is scatter shot due to no pet spells and that silence spell at lvl 21-24

Astral communion isnt available at 19 making balance druids manually stack solar/lunar power

At lvl 19 you really dont have to worry about those players with terrible gear

Also players dont feel so unmotivated at 19s compared to 20s because you dont face players 4 lvls ahead of you....,unless you are lvl 15 for some reason
 
Pooh said:
Tanks can stack massive HP in bgs and still be capable of doing good damage.

Unlike this bracket (there are nay sayers) in 19s players are "somewhat balanced" because:
Shadow Priests dont exist in 19s

Frost mages only got frost bolt as their main spell (24s get ice lance which is dangerous in this bracket)

Hunters dont have pet spells for support.

Locked battle grounds at 19 most players have 90 enchants to increase their stam, str, agi, int, or go with extra protection such as Colossus or more attacking with Elemental force.

Crip poison isnt available for rogues...letting classes like Paladin, Druid, Shaman to still have their mobility

Denounce (i believe is lvl 20) making holy shock, judgment, and Crusader strike as your 3 main spells for dmg instead of denounce spam.

No mounts for players at lvl 19 making players having to be at the right place at the right time or else fcs like paladins or druids get through mid fast unlike this bracket where players derp in the mid then mount up and chase efcs around the field.

No aoe for warriors

Monks can catch up to players as well as escape.

Locks dont get pet specials like hunters as well.

Flumigation doesn't exist in 19s making earthshock less viable compared to flameshock keeping a dot effect on rogues

Players have to be more cooperative in order to hunt down efcs

Shaman at 19 dont get perma-slow like at lvl 24

Many of the f2ps are players who had just started the game, players who are "ok ill just go in and kill stuff because thats all i do from 1-20 "...19s have a lot more experience handling pvp like this due to raids and other things like arenas (strategic movements)

Hunters only cc is scatter shot due to no pet spells and that silence spell at lvl 21-24

Astral communion isnt available at 19 making balance druids manually stack solar/lunar power

At lvl 19 you really dont have to worry about those players with terrible gear

Also players dont feel so unmotivated at 19s compared to 20s because you dont face players 4 lvls ahead of you....,unless you are lvl 15 for some reason
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Thank you for reinforcing his point.
 
inoobupro said:
no , 19s is just as unbalanced at 20-24.

-tanks can still tank well at 20-24

-instead of poisons rogues just 1 shot stuff

-everyone is scaled to 4 levels, come on do you play f2p or what?

-without ''astral communion'' balance druids are still arguably the most overpowered class at 19

-shamans still own at 19 in the right hands when facing shttrs

-paladins actually know their role and dont spam DPS spells at 19

-hunters still have concussion shot

-what would a 100 damage AoE even mean in a bursty bracket

-19s are ALOT more different than 20-24, but that doesnt mean there are plenty of shtrs

-most of the time these 24 spriests get outplayed by f2p hunters

again have you at least played 19s or watched some streams of how different 19s are from 20-24 i feel like im trying to communicate with someone on a different level and there is also alot more but i dont feel like trying to explain
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No need to explain.....i have seen 19s gameplay.....would prefer it than 20-24 imo
I'll just end this now before this thread becomes an argument of 2 or more pages. And this is clearly off topic of what this thread is about.
 
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