Paid Character services on a F2P very possible.

[Matterson]

I can assure you that the reason you made this thread isn't the reason it's being used.. People are using this because they are cheap as hell and want everything on their "F2P". Read the thread and you will see some of the stuff people are exploiting from this. Wasn't directing previous post towards you as I feel you just wanted to give people the option to get paid services however some cheap people took it a totally different route and is quite pathetic that they can't get 15 a month.

Stop being cheap lmao.. Like I said get your parents to pay 15 bucks a month for you to be a P2P and get all this stuff you're exploiting to get and putting all the effort into trying to trick blizz. At this point the effort some of ya'll have put into exploiting stuff isn't even worth the 15 a month

I agree with a lot of the things you say believe it or not, and personally do not agree with getting all the gear advantages etc making you as bad as a 24. Even worse if you have moaned about 24's in the past.
But I do disagree with it being cheap. Why would someone pay for something when they could in fact get it for free. I wouldn't blame anyone doing something in order to play and get as much fun for free, opposed to paying £10 a month.

The main thing I like about F2P is that I can hop on whenever I like, and it doesn't matter what so ever how much I play. I'm not tied down to a £10 a month payment. I wouldn't say I play F2P because i'm cheap either, I play it because I dont enjoy endgame at all anymore and ive always been into twinking and lower level pvp. The 20-24 bracket is the most active and when I can infact play it for free why would i pay for it?

 

[Kincaide]

Why would someone pay for something when they could in fact get it for free

...because it's stealing? I mean, call me crazy, but...

 

[The Saint]

Why would someone pay for something when they could in fact get it for free.

i have seen some stupid stuff on here, but that takes the cake.

the way this is obtained is infact illegal. it's like saying why should i pay for my shopping when i can walk out of tescos with a basket full.

 

[Baumbart]

I'm glad I bring you laughter. but that is not the point I'm trying to make, perhaps you aren't smart enough to understand and have to force out laughter instead. He may have not used the word pure but that was the point he was making. He compared this to linking accounts and I was making the point that this exploit has more in common with the DK glitch than linking. Yes exactly, if that doesn't give you a hint you're doing something wrong then you have a loose screw up there. DKs get locked, These chars get locked. Both services provide achivments that shouldn't be possible on f2ps to f2ps.

Yes you can do more with this than you can on a DK but you can also do more with a DK than you can with this. I will keep comparing them until you realise how filthy you are and fall of that high horse.

I never said that linking accounts is as bad (or bad at all) as abusing the codes. All I said was that achievements gotten on a p2p account belong to (surprise, surprise) p2p achievements. You're putting words in my mouth.

 

[Matterson]

...because it's stealing? I mean, call me crazy, but...

i have seen some stupid stuff on here, but that takes the cake.

the way this is obtained is infact illegal. it's like saying why should i pay for my shopping when i can walk out of tescos with a basket full.

That quote in particular obviously wasn't meant in that context. I wasn't aiming it at the idea of stealing, or anything illegal and wasn't meant in that context. When typing that I did probably miss that point and not think about it and you have made me look at it from a different angle.

Though i still think cheap is the wrong word, I wouldn't call the undead hunter who has obtained the eye patch and two argas rings cheap. Giving himself an advantage and taking away a level of competitiveness yes but not cheap.

I dont think id call it stealing either...

 

[Goesid]

I never said that linking accounts is as bad (or bad at all) as abusing the codes. All I said was that achievements gotten on a p2p account belong to (surprise, surprise) p2p achievements. You're putting words in my mouth.

And I said achivments gotten on a DK is just as bad as those gotten on a p2p.

 

[The Saint]

Though i still think cheap is the wrong word, I wouldn't call the undead hunter who has obtained the eye patch and two argas rings cheap. Giving himself an advantage and taking away a level of competitiveness yes but not cheap.

I dont think id call it stealing either...

but you would call a p2p doing the same, but actually paying for it cheap?

and it's not stealing. knowingly submitting false credit card info to obtain goods (the battle chest) is fraud.

 

[monkeydoodoo]

^^ this, are ppl really that broke or greedy that they want to do this? you want the abilities of a p2p? pay for it.... you ungrateful buggers play wow for free unlimited and still have the cheek to do things like this....

 

[Matterson]

but you would call a p2p doing the same, but actually paying for it cheap?

and it's not stealing. knowingly submitting false credit card info to obtain goods (the battle chest) is fraud.

If by cheap you mean stingy/tight, which is the definition I have been taking it by no of course not? If by cheap you mean something totally different in paying for an advantage and steam rolling a load of players with a huge disadvantage, yeah maybe? But i wouldn't use the word cheap...
But 24's don't bother me that much, yeah when I killed by em I often think to myself how bad they are just using their advantage. At the end of the day though that's their choice and i could go 24 if i wanted to but find it much less competitive and there is no sense of satisfaction in killing someone who had a huge disadvantage in terms of gear etc

You're not obtaining the battle chest though are you? Your account gets put straight back to a standard edition account. Excuse me if i'm wrong but Blizzard also know that the details are wrong and that's why they put your account back to a trial, without even a temp ban?

 

[Baumbart]

And I said achivments gotten on a DK is just as bad as those gotten on a p2p.

Which has nothing to do with my original post.

 

[Goesid]

Which has nothing to do with my original post.

yes it does.

 

[Dramatized]

i think beeing fair - unfair is just a detail here.

this is not smt like bug, or terrain exploit. if u violete the game. it is something between player and blizzard, which is not illegal mostly.

but if u guys doing this by fake/false information, its not only violating the game, its also violating the law which is illegal.
by doing this you are crossing the border of the game and joining to the area of real life.

tell me if im wrong.

This exploit doesn't require any false info at all. Not by doing it the way I "discovered" (not sure if OP uses the same way).

I'm not sure where people even got that idea from to begin with.

 

[monkeydoodoo]

i think beeing fair - unfair is just a detail here.

this is not smt like bug, or terrain exploit. if u violete the game. it is something between player and blizzard, which is not illegal mostly.

but if u guys doing this by fake/false information, its not only violating the game, its also violating the law which is illegal.
by doing this you are crossing the border of the game and joining to the area of real life.

tell me if im wrong.

your not wrong at all, but you know wow > rl right.

 

[Sabzep]

...

Edit: Also your potential slots increase by 156! I dropped about 20k gold and bought 11 royal satchels (26 slots each). That is more than double the amount of slots currently available to F2Ps. It's a no-brainer but tradeable mounts also become available when you do this.

How does this work? Can you access the guild bank? Mail and trade is still restricted afaik.

 

[Kincaide]

You're not obtaining the battle chest though are you? Your account gets put straight back to a standard edition account. Excuse me if i'm wrong but Blizzard also know that the details are wrong and that's why they put your account back to a trial, without even a temp ban?

Analogy. Substitute "battle chest" for "car". You get a fake key for someone's car. You take it and drive it around, maybe you use it to move some friends/things from place to place. Eventually the police locate the car and return it to its owner. So you don't have the car anymore... have you stolen the car?

Edit: To keep the analogy more relevant, say it's a car on a dealer lot rather than an individually owned car.

 

[Dramatized]

OP can tell us if its or not.

Why can't I tell you? There is a way of doing this without leaving any false info of any kind.

lol

 

[Matterson]

Analogy. Substitute "battle chest" for "car". You get a fake key for someone's car. You take it and drive it around, maybe you use it to move some friends/things from place to place. Eventually the police locate the car and return it to its owner. So you don't have the car anymore... have you stolen the car?

Edit: To keep the analogy more relevant, say it's a car on a dealer lot rather than an individually owned car.

It is completely different to that analogy though, its more along the lines of illegally downloading a piece of music but instead of being able to keep the music it gets deleted after 24 hours. So you could only listen to the music for the 24 hours.

Calling someone a criminal for doing this is fair enough, but they are the same kind of criminal as someone who has illegally downloaded music which I can guarantee a very large portion of this community has done.


Edit: inb4 flame, I use spotify

 

[Kincaide]

It is completely different to that analogy though, its more along the lines of illegally downloading a piece of music but instead of being able to keep the music it gets deleted after 24 hours. So you could only listen to the music for the 24 hours.

Calling someone a criminal for doing this is fair enough, but they are the same kind of criminal as someone who has illegally downloaded music which I can guarantee a very large portion of this community has done.


Edit: inb4 flame, I use spotify

Hmm, that's a reasonable argument.

 

[Crystalpall]

Why can't I tell you? There is a way of doing this without leaving any false info of any kind.

lol

I'm not sure if I want to know... Some things should stay undiscovered.

 

[Dax]

Trials should be able to join guilds (at least "trials only" guilds), use paid services and invite other trials to make groups by default in my opinion. I don't see anything wrong doing it even if that include some exploit. Maybe some of us are greedy but Blizzard is the worst by far !