Johneffer said:
Thank god i got some someone on my side about cloth - ever since vanilla (lvl 60) the best pally healers used cloth. They were looked at funny, yes but they were also on top...
No, he is suggesting the acceptable items; Spidersilk Boots and Jutebraid Gloves. They are acceptable, the other cloth pieces are lacking. Those people were never on top.
Johneffer said:
Wait - does he want Spidersilk cape in holy? i dont use that... Cuffs are BiS for holy, 3 stam 3 in 2 spirit... And breeches # 1
Cuffs were, and are not, BiS.
Spirit is near useless; so in all honesty they're 3 int 3 stam cloth bracers. Steel Clasped Bracers has high Armor and 6 stam. Thats' 3 int for 3 stam and alot more Armor. 3/3 Grunt's Eagle Bracers have 3 int 3 stam and much more armor. Armor>useless stats such as spirit. You don;t oom.
On the subject of Spidersilk Drape; you are still whacking stuff with a fuck off Mace. It also increases the chance that your HoJ, or other "offensive" spells, will hit, by a tiny tiny margin. However, the difference between hitting a HoJ and missing one, is game breaking. So you might say, well why not gather all the hit rating items you can, if HoJ is so important. The other items with hit are lack luster for a Holy Paladin and sacrifice too much perfect itemisation.
Llare said:
Fully hit capping a Holy Paladin wastes much better stats. 1int and 4sp for 4 hit is not a waste of stats. SP is near useless and 1int is no great loss. Taking items like Lavishly > say Seal of Sylvannus (if you have Seal of Wyrnn also) is a ridiculous waste.
If you can make the tiniest of sacrifices for hit rating on a Holy Paladin, you take it. Tiniest.
Vincent said:
Indeed I do, tbh Im using savage trodders instead of ss boots atm, alltho with the upcoming change to savage Ill probably go back to ss, no way Im picking up those shitty defender boots just cause of the armor...
I don't think, now, there's much justification for using Defender's Boots of the Eagle. Spidersilk is much more attractive if you want Int, and Savage Trodders are currently much better.
Onto Prot Gear. Cuffs aren't good, trying to go for a mix of SP and Str, while having a considerable amount of Int, is sadly not the way to go. In all honesty, build like a Ret Paladin, not getting silly items like Feet of the Lynx, armor appropriate, with a Butcher's Slicer+15Str and Redbeard Crest +7 stam OR +10 Parry.
15 Agility or 7 str are the only enchants you'd want on gloves for PRot. SP as a single enchant, isn't as good as it was, and trying to throw together items in a mish mash of SP+STr+Int won't do the Prot tree justice.
The enchant on boots isn't the way to go either. You have much better places you can pickup +Hit, the more Time on Target you can get as a Prot Paladin, the better. Minor Speed gives you this.
I assume Hit Capping yourself for Normal Attacks would also increase your overall DPS. Butcher's Slicer has brilliant flat damage, and the more Str you have, the better.
What I've found to be a decent Prot Set:
LFH
Sentinels Neck
Plate BoA
Spidersilk Drape +12 Dodge Rating (+4 Hit)
Plate BoA +4stats
Cavedweller Bracers +9str
Thorbia's Gauntlets +15 agility
Deviate Scale Belt (+3 Hit)
Chassues of Westfall +16armor
Draftman's Boots +Minor Speed
Demon Band (+2 Hit)
Demon Band (+2 Hit)
Arena Grand Master
Arena Grand Master/Insignia
Butcher's Slicer +15 Str
Redbeard Crest +7 Stam
In your set you have 1250 Mana. This should have no need. You don't want to be spamming FoLs, and you won't oom if you cast one occationally either (Judgement's of the Wise, 30% of base Mana over 10secs when you cast a Judgement) there is no need for the extra int.
Demon Band x2. To hit cap you otherwise, without going into dodgy numbers using Leather BoA, you'd need Simple Pearl Ring and Seal of Wrynn. They give you +3 Str +3 Agility +4 Stam +4 Int +4 Spirit and +4 Hit. Int and Spirit have no roll for a Prot Pal, so they're disregarded. Demon Band x2 gives you 8 Str, 4 Stam and 4 Hit, a visibly better upgrade.
You'll be hit capped, have all the Str you need, and have all the mitigation and survivability you'll want from armor.
I take time in writing detailed and proper posts. So please don't skim this Jon, since before you seemingly didn;t read everything I wrote, and the Pro's and Con's. Again, I'm fine playing Prot, just BiS still puzzles me. I haven;t seen enough Prot Pallys to judge for BiS. But I've seen enough to know that your set lacks alot of the vital stats itemised to Prot.
