Interesting Item thread (No flaming, only constructive replies please)
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accel
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Quick question: do older set bonuses work in level 20 bgs? Eg, from desolation gear: Pauldrons of Desolation - Item - World of Warcraft (wowhead.com)
Also: what was the value of the ?bonus parameter for wowhead to scale items to level 20? I remember seeing it but cannot find it now (maybe a good candidate for being put into a FAQ).
Also: what was the value of the ?bonus parameter for wowhead to scale items to level 20? I remember seeing it but cannot find it now (maybe a good candidate for being put into a FAQ).
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fungchewuchi
Master of the Flying Guillotine
the vast majority don't. a few non class specific like the bc critbonus ones incl that do. its +12 @ 20.
glancealot
Legend
on my 70 druid twink (now 27) i saw this interesting item, is it viable for 20? (Relic from the past)
https://www.wowhead.com/item-set=570/the-unyielding
https://www.wowhead.com/item-set=570/the-unyielding
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Warglave
Veteran
Not everything craftable accepts relics, and does that one have a belt buckle socket too? Pretty sure they have high req.
On a different note, this week is Shadowlands dungeon week where the "last boss of SL dungeons drops an extra item"... beyond whatever broken way loot works, I think it's including BfA dungeons in it too (used to be all dungeons).
Solo ran Sweeny 3 times and got the trinket every time, including 2 trinkets the first time. So the two BfA final bosses might be a guaranteed loot and socket/tert grind for the trinkets this week, to anyone interested. Maybe legion too.
(edit- legion wont upgrade, just meant legion bosses may be included... maybe all xpacs, that'd be sweet)
(sorry the pic is so damn big)
glancealot
Legend
Gixxer66
Legend
The Unyielding Bracers can be crafted with a Relic for a 20 but the Epic Girdle 100% can't already checked that out.on my 70 druid twink (now 27) i saw this interesting item, is it viable for 20? (Relic from the past)
https://www.wowhead.com/item-set=570/the-unyielding
I went through all my TBC cloth recipes and anthing slightly interesting from TBC, cant be crafted - Spellfire set could have been interesting .....
glancealot
Legend
this is why i love these forums, anything that I can think of, someone has already tried it and most of the time, tested it to have a conclusion on viability!
Asylum
for the Insane
i also like the "unlearned recipes" tab in the professions skill window as a fountain of resourceful knowledge.
Warglave
Veteran
Just to confirm, definitely guaranteed at least one drop for BfA end-boss (at least sweeny). Took 4 runs to get a socket.
6 runs to get 2 with socket. Shrunk this pic and now it's blurry.
edit- dragged my 20 druid there too and 3 runs in a row both got one trinket each per kill. Might be best to 2man.
6 runs to get 2 with socket. Shrunk this pic and now it's blurry.
edit- dragged my 20 druid there too and 3 runs in a row both got one trinket each per kill. Might be best to 2man.
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glancealot
Legend
Just to confirm, definitely guaranteed at least one drop for BfA end-boss (at least sweeny). Took 4 runs to get a socket.
6 runs to get 2 with socket. Shrunk this pic and now it's blurry.
edit- dragged my 20 druid there too and 3 runs in a row both got one trinket each per kill. Might be best to 2man.
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Warglave
Veteran
Upside being how many others can you get socket and tertiary, farmable, guaranteed to drop (for spec) this week?
edit- easy answer is this one, which is likely even worse... https://www.wowhead.com/item=159610/vessel-of-skittering-shadows?bonus=4777:1473
The last boss is going to drop something, that's the point. Every run. Druid happens to only have the one drop. I hopped my pally into violet hold to see if legion was doing the same, apparently you cant solo that one... lol. Annoying.
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Hashbrowns
Legend
https://www.wowhead.com/item=136978/ember-of-nullification?bonus=1826:1472
Does it only proc when the enemy is casting/channeling or is it like a blanket silence that can happen even when they are just standing still?
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glancealot
Legend
FYI vessel is about 1~1.5% of my dps during those rezan runs.
so it is probably unusable in PVP, as each trinket slot is prime estate and you want whatever trinekt you equip to make a material difference.
so it is probably unusable in PVP, as each trinket slot is prime estate and you want whatever trinekt you equip to make a material difference.
Warglave
Veteran
So on my 5-6th run with a 2 party, he only dropped one trinket. No idea why, was my first run using another toon outside the instance to reset so they didnt have to run all the way back, but that shouldnt matter. Next run 2 dropped again.
edit- had enough, just some numbers from like 14-16 runs (lost track) 7 or 8 with 2 toons:
1 speed
1 avoidance
4 socket
17 normal
edit- had enough, just some numbers from like 14-16 runs (lost track) 7 or 8 with 2 toons:
1 speed
1 avoidance
4 socket
17 normal
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glancealot
Legend
ok so my 1 in 5~10 for socket is roughly correct.
my guess for 1 in 10~15 for socket + speed/leech is grossly over-estimated, the real rate could be 1 in 40~60.
Warglave
Veteran
I didnt get any with socket/tertiary, got tired of it and moved on. I did run a couple classic and TBC dungeon end-bosses, and for a while every one of those had a drop too... but the 3rd run of slave pens Quag dropped zero loot. Oh well.
Only did 2 gnomer cuz the vers ring dropped 2nd run, but the last boss dropped his loot both times. Likely coincidence.
Over 20-something sweeny kills most of which dropped 2 trinkets each, I got 6-7 sockets and 5-6 tertiary upgrades... cant remember exactly and dont feel like loggin back in to verify. But well worth the effort if one was in the market.
He also has a 1h sword on his loot table, i think, so that'll be in the mix for those specs that can use it.
Only did 2 gnomer cuz the vers ring dropped 2nd run, but the last boss dropped his loot both times. Likely coincidence.
Over 20-something sweeny kills most of which dropped 2 trinkets each, I got 6-7 sockets and 5-6 tertiary upgrades... cant remember exactly and dont feel like loggin back in to verify. But well worth the effort if one was in the market.
He also has a 1h sword on his loot table, i think, so that'll be in the mix for those specs that can use it.
Infomerc
Legend
A few things.
Heya. What I meant to communicate is that the silence only procs from Direct Damage spells, including the arcane-dmg weapon-imbue-type that the Suramar City mobs use. Pretty certain: dots and AOE never proc it.
Testing:
Shield’s Rest WQ: Good for test: two types of elite caster vrykul, one priest and another similar. Both have DD spells and a nature DOT...'Choking'-mist?. They're spread out, so easy to 1v1 for careful monitoring. I'm in tank spec with 3-4 interrupts besides the trinket, so I can block most DD. Killed a dozen in lengthy exchanges, and they'd get silenced from DDing me but never from DOT-ing me.
Argus: Felsingers: DD+Rain of Fire. Killed a dozen, same story. Puscilla’s imps' puddle damage: more difficult to test, but again never saw them silenced.
Good news: it does silence Elites in Temple of 1000 Lights, both the familiars and the mages. The familiars may have a dmg aura, but if so, I didn’t see any silences from that. Also, some Elites on Isle of Wardens were silenced, when they used Howl/Roar-of-something.