I don't understand F2P twinking..

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im just gonna say that this is a free to play bracket. besides for the old days when 29's lived, this bracket did not exist. they changed the brackets so you dont go in at 20 and get ganked by 29's and stuff.... 24 being the highest level you can go, people wanted to have the "gear advantage (99% of 24's have worse gear then a f2p BiS can have)"... i never played 29 bracket but im prettyyyyyyyyyyyyyy sure there wasn't a lvl 24 thing going on (like how 19 bracket had 10's)

i think you are misinformed or something....
 
I don't play a 24, and I refuse to because it's way too easy.

Thank you for being a smart ***...

There are a few reasons why I play 24's...

1) I have the money to support blizzard by having a P2P account.
2) High level PvP bores me, I prefer low level combat.
And the most important reason as to why I play a 24 twink.
3) I never had any intention on twinking at 24. I rolled a warrior because I remembered how fun they were... The reason I twinked at 24 was beause I found out about exp off BG's and how they halved the BG's 10-14, 14-19 etc. The reason I found out about these was a random person talking in trade chat after I came back from a scroll of resurrection... and after playing a few 20-24 bg's with exp off I liked it and decided to make this my 'home'...


If its just f2ps who run around in mid like headless chickens that is why you roll in another bracket, where everyone are supposed to be more dedicated to twinking. If it happens in every bracket then complaining here probably not helping anything, as the people who run around and don't care probably aren't gonna read it here anyway...


Oh don't get me wrong it's not JUST f2p who run around aimlessly.. 24's do it as well. I'm just saying a lot of the f2p run around aimlessly and farm mid( Only say this because I never see any 24's)

im just gonna say that this is a free to play bracket. besides for the old days when 29's lived, this bracket did not exist. they changed the brackets so you dont go in at 20 and get ganked by 29's and stuff.... 24 being the highest level you can go, people wanted to have the "gear advantage (99% of 24's have worse gear then a f2p BiS can have)"... i never played 29 bracket but im prettyyyyyyyyyyyyyy sure there wasn't a lvl 24 thing going on (like how 19 bracket had 10's)

i think you are misinformed or something....

I used to play a 29 warlock and had a lot of fun... Altho I have no intention on going back to 29 now that I'm in 24.

I also don't know what you think I am misinformed about...

I understand why they changed it.. I'm not here about that.. I'm here about the lack of motivation (some) f2p(and 24's) have... The reason I posted it in the F2P twinking section rather then the 24 as it relates to the 20's more then it does the 24's from what I have been saying(activity)...
 
And why would I roll in the 19's bracket where people just roll hunters/rogues and face roll...


hmmmmmm i wonder why people like to roll 24's...........................
 
I don't know.. Also if you are going to just be a smart *** please leave this thread. I didn't come here to fight with anyone.

Thats funny because this is identical to countless troll threads that have all been locked or deleted. And most of what you've posted resembles obvious trolling that the F2P community has had to deal with since day one.

I understand people with P2P accounts rolling 24 twinks because at the end of the day, thats within the original spirit of what twinking used to be. It used to be you had as overpowered of a toon as you could possibly get, and you'd run around WSG facerolling normal players. I get that, and I get that some people have fun doing it.

What I don't understand is why you would bother gearing and playing a 24 twink when you have the option to twink at 70 or do endgame pvp at 85, both of which are infinitely more fun than playing as a 24 in the 20-24 bracket. The only plausible explanation that I can think of is that 24 twinks primary motivation is to faceroll as much as possible and to win games with a minimum of effort. Whether that desire stems from nerdraging or a feeling of weakness or helplessness, or whether thats just what you and your buddies get your kicks out of doing I have no idea.

I know that games with 24s on my side where we simply faceroll the opposing team (and there have been times when the 24 premades insist on farming for the full time limit while holding flag), are just no fun at all. Im honestly puzzled why people would get satisfaction out of doing that. It seems sadistic and sad and it makes me pity them.

But then again, I guess I have to remember at the end of the day I'm playing a kids game.
 
I don't know.. Also if you are going to just be a smart *** please leave this thread. I didn't come here to fight with anyone.

im not trying to be smart at all, but im not dumb either. there is no logical reason to play 24 besides "ooh, i can 1 shot these nub kids, woot woot"

if you have real love for twinking you would play somewhere that you don't need a gear advantage... yes when twinking first came out it was to pwn noobs but it became more then that, and i look at twinking from its "golden age"(for the 19 bracket atleast)...

if you do play objectively, then good for you. if you are almost BiS, thats great. as much as i don't like 24's, i'd rather see a 24 that puts time and effort into their toon instead of some scrub that get a few enchants and some AH gear and just jumps in like "ooh yah watch me pwn while i hold s key"

as far as the "bad f2p" part goes, it was already said but there is the same % of bad p2p's. really do some research and record some #'s in pugs, and you will see that both are equal. gear wise and playing wise.

im not here to fight either, but when a 24 comes in here and says "ARGGG F2P'S are bad and annoying and they suck and cant gear and kifgjignfokindsvgfndfnbyhkudfsvndfhjbvdfbnvibdfjub" its a pretty natural instinct to talk it out.

anyone who stays in this bracket (or any bracket, besides endgame) has a choice. if you're a f2p you can quit, if you're a p2p you can go to annother bracket. if you don't want to be somewhere, then leave. the bracket annoys me alot too but if you think of it, the 19 bracket has just as many people who farm mid and GY farm and blah blah.
 
Thats funny because this is identical to countless troll threads that have all been locked or deleted. And most of what you've posted resembles obvious trolling that the F2P community has had to deal with since day one.

I understand people with P2P accounts rolling 24 twinks because at the end of the day, thats within the original spirit of what twinking used to be. It used to be you had as overpowered of a toon as you could possibly get, and you'd run around WSG facerolling normal players. I get that, and I get that some people have fun doing it.

What I don't understand is why you would bother gearing and playing a 24 twink when you have the option to twink at 70 or do endgame pvp at 85, both of which are infinitely more fun than playing as a 24 in the 20-24 bracket. The only plausible explanation that I can think of is that 24 twinks primary motivation is to faceroll as much as possible and to win games with a minimum of effort. Whether that desire stems from nerdraging or a feeling of weakness or helplessness, or whether thats just what you and your buddies get your kicks out of doing I have no idea.

I know that games with 24s on my side where we simply faceroll the opposing team (and there have been times when the 24 premades insist on farming for the full time limit while holding flag), are just no fun at all. Im honestly puzzled why people would get satisfaction out of doing that. It seems sadistic and sad and it makes me pity them.

But then again, I guess I have to remember at the end of the day I'm playing a kids game.

First of all I would like to state that I am not here to troll, I don't want want people to troll in this thread. I have come here for a discussion nothing else. I have no offensive motivations towards your opinions nor do I seek them.


Secondly. I explained in 1-2 posts up the reason I'm in the 24 bracket..

im not trying to be smart at all, but im not dumb either. there is no logical reason to play 24 besides "ooh, i can 1 shot these nub kids, woot woot"

if you have real love for twinking you would play somewhere that you don't need a gear advantage... yes when twinking first came out it was to pwn noobs but it became more then that, and i look at twinking from its "golden age"(for the 19 bracket atleast)...

if you do play objectively, then good for you. if you are almost BiS, thats great. as much as i don't like 24's, i'd rather see a 24 that puts time and effort into their toon instead of some scrub that get a few enchants and some AH gear and just jumps in like "ooh yah watch me pwn while i hold s key"

as far as the "bad f2p" part goes, it was already said but there is the same % of bad p2p's. really do some research and record some #'s in pugs, and you will see that both are equal. gear wise and playing wise.

im not here to fight either, but when a 24 comes in here and says "ARGGG F2P'S are bad and annoying and they suck and cant gear and kifgjignfokindsvgfndfnbyhkudfsvndfhjbvdfbnvibdfjub" its a pretty natural instinct to talk it out.

anyone who stays in this bracket (or any bracket, besides endgame) has a choice. if you're a f2p you can quit, if you're a p2p you can go to annother bracket. if you don't want to be somewhere, then leave. the bracket annoys me alot too but if you think of it, the 19 bracket has just as many people who farm mid and GY farm and blah blah.


If there is no logical reason to twinking at 24 then there is no logical reason to twink a f2p other then the fact that if you get banned you don't waste $16 a month... I twink at 24 because I like it, as I'm sure that is the reason why people twink in what ever bracket they play in.

I do love twinking, I love the community and atmosphere(All though this thread is a step in the opposite direction). I love how blizzard has changed the BG's so that 10's, 20's, 30's etc don't get face rolled by max bracket level characters who have BiS gear/enchants.

Also as I have said a few times in this thread, I play a warrior. I can't press S and face roll 20's as I will just die. I have also said that I am nearly BiS and I can link you to my armory if you require proof.

It was not my intention to come in here and insult F2P's.. If I have then I'm sorry. I'm in here because to me it seems like a waste of time if all you are going to do is run around aimlessly rather then play objectively... I came here to get an answer to why people play F2P and if they do, do they play objectively or do they just prove my point and run around aimlessly.

I never wanted this to be a hate thread as I have said it twice during my first post here. I also don't want this to be a troll thread. I have come here for a discussion and answers, nothing more.
 
God, the people here are such jerks/trolls. wtb server transfers so i can get my warlock off of AP since that place is just a cesspool of hate.
 
God, the people here are such jerks/trolls. wtb server transfers so i can get my warlock off of AP since that place is just a cesspool of hate.


No LFH today?
 
First of all I would like to state that I am not here to troll, I don't want want people to troll in this thread. I have come here for a discussion nothing else. I have no offensive motivations towards your opinions nor do I seek them.


Secondly. I explained in 1-2 posts up the reason I'm in the 24 bracket..




If there is no logical reason to twinking at 24 then there is no logical reason to twink a f2p other then the fact that if you get banned you don't waste $16 a month... I twink at 24 because I like it, as I'm sure that is the reason why people twink in what ever bracket they play in.

I do love twinking, I love the community and atmosphere(All though this thread is a step in the opposite direction). I love how blizzard has changed the BG's so that 10's, 20's, 30's etc don't get face rolled by max bracket level characters who have BiS gear/enchants.

Also as I have said a few times in this thread, I play a warrior. I can't press S and face roll 20's as I will just die. I have also said that I am nearly BiS and I can link you to my armory if you require proof.

It was not my intention to come in here and insult F2P's.. If I have then I'm sorry. I'm in here because to me it seems like a waste of time if all you are going to do is run around aimlessly rather then play objectively... I came here to get an answer to why people play F2P and if they do, do they play objectively or do they just prove my point and run around aimlessly.

I never wanted this to be a hate thread as I have said it twice during my first post here. I also don't want this to be a troll thread. I have come here for a discussion and answers, nothing more.

thats not what i meant by logic reason... i play f2p because i don't like paying for wow, when i DO pay for wow i get a bit too obsessed and consume my life with wow as i prioritize wow > pretty much everything else. being f2p gives me this thought in my head that since im not paying i don't have to worry about "wasting time / money". im not trying to QQ about not having money, as alot of people in this world don't. not everyone is born into a family with parents and get a car when they turn 16 or whatever. what im trying to say though is, why would you go 24 besides for knowing that you have the few extra skills and the gear advantage... you can't play dumb and be like "doh, we are a few levels higher???!?!?!?!" its pretty obvious.

im going to judge by your 3 reasons you posted up there. if this is incorrect then ignore it but im pretty sure its along these lines, each number will be @ each reason you posted
1 - support blizzard? they are making tons. i guess if you are that thankful for the game and stuff you would consider it a way of donating? i guessss that makes a bit of sense to p2p, but that has nothing to do with 24's, so ill move to the next.
2 - you prefer low combat. there is a 10-14 bracket. there is a 15-19 bracket. there is a 25-29 bracket that was coming back, idk if it did or not but that still leaves the other 2. if 29's are dead, the only reason i can come up with to go 20-24 is for the mount. you like higher speed pvp? then that bring to higher brackets, such as 70's. maybe now you can see where i am coming from?
3 - you turned xp off at 24, most likely you knew about free to play's being at 20 and such. you probably had bad gear on (guessing that you turn xp off to try, and to this day you aren't BiS). then you saw the opportunity to have the gear advantage. while you cant backpeddle and kill people on a warrior, it's a low % of people that actually know how to pvp in this bracket. if you know how to strafe and stay behind hunters and whatnot, then good for you. if not, well, you're not the only one. i mean, based on what you said, you knew about the level advantage and went to the max lvl you could and you liked having that advantage. if you do you could just say so, because at the end of the day you do have that advantage and nothing you can say can change that.

if you honestly like this bracket that much and you don't want the advantage you could make a f2p account and keep your p2p active, there is a few people that do this.
you could also make a f2p set, then have a p2p set incase you run into a game vs alot of 24's (or a 24 premade). people do that too.
orrr you could stay 24 with the advantages and do your own thing. its up to you.
another thing, most of the people on this website are atleast decent. all those nubs with 600 hp don't go on here. if they did they would probably be amazed by all the information and use it to gear up.
one last thing, about the s key part, even though you are a warrior, if someone is behind you would you hold s key to be able to fight or would you keyboard turn around or would you use mouse (no, im not asking for an answer from that, you can answer yourself if you would like)
im done for now. :p
 
I dont understand the link youre making between playing f2p and "running around aimlessly". People do that in every bracket of wow.
 
Here's an answer which hopefully will satisfy you and you will not label me a smart ***

Most ppl at twinkinfo strive to become better. That's why we are here, we exchange ideas, give advice, share info. Most of those "baddies" as you said don't know about this website, don't want to know about this website, don't give a damn or simply don't speak English. (OMG, Cap that El Bandeira right now!!!You Understand me?).

So the people to whom you address your message will never read it.

P.S.Try to fight against a team from Ap horde.

P.P.S. What if you move to the US to premade with ease? Never give up!!!
 
God, the people here are such jerks/trolls. wtb server transfers so i can get my warlock off of AP since that place is just a cesspool of hate.

/Comfort

But on a more serious note, come to Hakkar. Me and my imaginary friends will be happy to see you here ;)
 
The facts art those "baddies" you see farming mid are new to wow they don't know what to do so they just fight what ever is closest
Now while this wont solve the problem it does help
Step 1: inspect them
Step 2: make sure they speak English
Step 3: identify if they are new a), under-geared b), don't know what gear is best c) or unskilled d)
Step 4: give them a solution
a)recommend them here
b) give them gear advice as in where to got there pvp trinket then recommend them here
c)recommend t here or tell them what there missing (make sure its available to f2p and there faction first)
d)give them tips on how to be better (nicely) or recommend them here

as i said this wont eliminate the problem as new players will always come in with no clue what to do or players that simple don't speak English
but it does help those interested in twinking that either didn't know how to or was unsure on specifics become better

i feel your pain ive never been in more than a 2 man premade and pig most of the t so i know the teams are absolutely horrid
 
So every time I solo que I am the only 24 on my team while the other team usually has 3-4 24's(If not premade) and 2-3 are usually hunters(How original). Anyway my question is this, Why do people f2p?(Besides the obvious I want a challenge) If you are a f2p twink then essentially you are missing out on 4 levels(1-2 skills) a lot of BiS Gear and Enchants...

Why is it that when ever I get put with a bunch of f2p, They have absolutely no sense of how to play a WSG, No sense of team work. All they do is just farm mid...(Which then gets me to rage and say horrible things to them and f2p twinks in general inside the bg) But after losing 5 WSG in a row where I am the only 24 in there and the only one actually doing something it starts to get to you because a lot of the BG's you could of won if the team didn't just farm...

You're a 24 questioning the whole mindset of the F2P community, you should have expected some trolls. My opinion is that you rolled a 24 to roll over bad 20s however you being a 24 warrior I guess makes up for some of that alittle bit. The more 24s this bracket sees the worse this bracket will become as F2P's (the heart of this bracket) will stop queuing if they see 5 24s every single bg.

Those mid farming 20s you refer to aren't normally twinks. Lower brackets normally have more players who have no idea how to play or are completely new so they go mid and get in a fight over and over and don't move. I would say 20s in mid is about equal to the amount of 24s in gy so....

I personally think the F2P communities are one of the best lv communities in this game, over the 85s and 19s and probably even the 70s. We have a challenge. We can't just go to the AH for those rare BiS items or those BiS chants and gear our toon to complete BiS in seconds after hitting lv 20 like most 24s can do. You seemed to just have a few bgs with 20 non-twinks and posted on here where probably 75% of people on this website wouldn't have just sat mid if the bg could have been won.
 
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