I don't understand F2P twinking..
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nope but i got 2 pairs of boots -.-
Atrixi
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WoW is not a kids game nor will it ever be a kids game. The fact that there is an open chat with other players proves that...
I agree with about 90% of what you're saying... I main reason why I stay in 24's now is because of the activity(mainly 20's) and the friends I have made in the guild I'm in now and those on the server I have transferred from (Cealestrasz)
"You seemed to just have a few bgs with 20 non-twinks" - When ever I solo que the entire team is F2P (This that is not an exaggeration) which is bad for me because (not trying to sound like an elites jerk but I feel I will) but I feel I have to try harder to try and carry the non twinks in the bracket that are just unfortunate enough to get into a bg twinks at 20-24 to try and win the BG. I don't like running around aimlessly to me it feels like a waste of time and it's not fun... If it wasn't for the Free to Play then this bracket would not of gotten to where it is today as one of the largest twinking brackets out there...
It took me 20 minutes to type all of this up and I find out when I hit reply it says "there is a censored word" so I have to go back and then type it all up again...
Atrixi
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thats not what i meant by logic reason... i play f2p because i don't like paying for wow, when i DO pay for wow i get a bit too obsessed and consume my life with wow as i prioritize wow > pretty much everything else. being f2p gives me this thought in my head that since im not paying i don't have to worry about "wasting time / money". im not trying to QQ about not having money, as alot of people in this world don't. not everyone is born into a family with parents and get a car when they turn 16 or whatever. what im trying to say though is, why would you go 24 besides for knowing that you have the few extra skills and the gear advantage... you can't play dumb and be like "doh, we are a few levels higher???!?!?!?!" its pretty obvious.
im going to judge by your 3 reasons you posted up there. if this is incorrect then ignore it but im pretty sure its along these lines, each number will be @ each reason you posted
1 - support blizzard? they are making tons. i guess if you are that thankful for the game and stuff you would consider it a way of donating? i guessss that makes a bit of sense to p2p, but that has nothing to do with 24's, so ill move to the next.
2 - you prefer low combat. there is a 10-14 bracket. there is a 15-19 bracket. there is a 25-29 bracket that was coming back, idk if it did or not but that still leaves the other 2. if 29's are dead, the only reason i can come up with to go 20-24 is for the mount. you like higher speed pvp? then that bring to higher brackets, such as 70's. maybe now you can see where i am coming from?
3 - you turned xp off at 24, most likely you knew about free to play's being at 20 and such. you probably had bad gear on (guessing that you turn xp off to try, and to this day you aren't BiS). then you saw the opportunity to have the gear advantage. while you cant backpeddle and kill people on a warrior, it's a low % of people that actually know how to pvp in this bracket. if you know how to strafe and stay behind hunters and whatnot, then good for you. if not, well, you're not the only one. i mean, based on what you said, you knew about the level advantage and went to the max lvl you could and you liked having that advantage. if you do you could just say so, because at the end of the day you do have that advantage and nothing you can say can change that.
if you honestly like this bracket that much and you don't want the advantage you could make a f2p account and keep your p2p active, there is a few people that do this.
you could also make a f2p set, then have a p2p set incase you run into a game vs alot of 24's (or a 24 premade). people do that too.
orrr you could stay 24 with the advantages and do your own thing. its up to you.
another thing, most of the people on this website are atleast decent. all those nubs with 600 hp don't go on here. if they did they would probably be amazed by all the information and use it to gear up.
one last thing, about the s key part, even though you are a warrior, if someone is behind you would you hold s key to be able to fight or would you keyboard turn around or would you use mouse (no, im not asking for an answer from that, you can answer yourself if you would like)
im done for now.
I typed up a big reply to this about 3 times but because there was a 'censored word' every single time I have had to retype it and I feel as if my message is getting weaker and weaker every time I retype it... but I shall try it again anyway...
1. I am aware of how much money Blizzard makes per year on the games and everything... But if it wasn't for people like me willing to pay to play then they would not be making that much money now would they?
2. When I was leveling my priest up, I found I really enjoyed the 70's bracket and I will be making another priest to twink at 70. All though I really enjoy 24's, 10-14's to me seems too easy as there is only 3 class' that are viable(that I have seen keep in mind I only leveled past the bracket, I didn't stay in it) for the 15-19's bracket it's the Hunters and Rogues that re god-tier the rest are no way near as good(Going off information I had when I used to play(2-3 years ago))
The main reason I will stay in 20-24's bracket is because of the amount of people I have met and the friends that I have made through out the bracket, and the fact the work/gold I have put into my toon to get it to where it is today.
3.. When I first joined this bracket I had no intention of face rolling 20's as I was still under the impression that 'Trial Accounts' were actually trial accounts.. They lasted 7-10 days then it ran out and you either had to pay for it to continue or you had to enter another trial code and make a new account... I didn't know that there was no limit on them...
As for the extra information at the bottom. I use a Razer Nostromo and use the joystick on there to turn and when I do use my mouse it's my right mouse button that turns while the joystick is my 'WASD" essentially...
I like your idea for having a f2p gear set but it's not the gear that is bothering me, it's the skill level... Also if I pay $16 a month I should be aloud to be better geared then the people who don't pay to play.
Deadvulcano
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Exactly! Money can get you every other advantage in life, why not use it for advantages in WoW?
Atrixi
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I'm sorry but what does paying to play the game have to do with the skill cap of the bracket?
youakim
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You're complaining about the skill level in a bracket designed for new players?
Atrixi
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That's not what I started this thread about... I started it to see the point of f2p twinking, and 90% of the answers is because it's free... the other 10% was the challenge...
There is a lack of skill in every bracket... 20-24 would be the biggest lack of skill obviously as it's where all the trial accounts end up...
Lil
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Fixed. skillful F2P GREATLY outnumber percentage wise the skillful 24s in this bracket
Atrixi
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More people die in cars crashes then they do in Airplane crashes.. The reason for that being is that there are more Car crashes then Airplane crashes...
Of course there are more Skilled F2P then P2P 20-24's, That's because F2P are the majority of this bracket if not about 70%(maybe more)...
Lil
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Thats why I said percentage wise
if you are new to this bracket just keep bging as some days there will be NOTHING but mid/gy farmers and some other days there will be good trials. Most of the good ones might have been fishing for LFH when you had your 5 bg slump?Atrixi
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Thats why I said percentage wise
That is entirely a possibility... All though it's not just today. I have thought about posting here before saying the exact same things... It's the fact that a lot of trial accounts just farm mid/gy with no motivation to play WSG how it was intended..(as I've said 24's do this as well) I'm not sure exactly what I was hoping to achieve by posting this here... I think it was to not lose hope in trial accounts and people can prove to me that there are people who do play the game for how it should be played and not for a cheap laugh...
epicf2p
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for 2 - you didnt play 19 twinks, you played xp on BG's? well of course you aren't gonna find it fun. people with mains and being p2p, go in there with a hunt or rogue to kill all the f2p's, non geared people, and they sometimes get enchants to kill the people with non chanted BoA's. 19's bracket had skilled people, but then they merged battlegroups and all the nubs came along.
every class is viable in every bracket. you seem to be meaning to say only 3 classes are OP. xp on and xp off is like a wholeee new bracket. pretty much nothing is similar exept the skills you get.
when the trial lasted 10 days, there was no level cap. also, they would not be in a xp-off bracket. this is kinda why i think you are a bit misinformed.
this bracket has the most un-skilled people, so if it bothers you that much i would say this isn't the bracket for you. when you pug you have to expect the other 9 people to suck and not be geared and sit in mid (most games ARE like that, :/ ). i kinda wanna say you don't know if you like the bracket or not lol, it seems that way.
i was just throwing the gear option out because there are people who do like this bracket, but also have respect for it. you are 100% correct that you pay and you can get better gear, us f2p's will just have to deal with it. if you want to get BiS 24 then do you.
oh by the way, one of the main reasons people roll hunters is because they get tired of seeing 24's, so they want to get the best chance to kill them. its not the only reason, but it plays a big part.
this is a f2p bracket tho, if there was no f2p's this bracket wouldn't be alive, just remember that. you seem to think it revolves around 24's, when its the other way around. f2p's cant get those fancy crusader and +15/+25 agility enchants. if you want to see that your best bet would probably be the 19's bracket.
Atrixi
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As I have said in one of my previous posts, I came from a scroll of res where hunters/rogues dominated the 10-19 bracket and there has been no major change to that to indicate otherwise...
I do have to agree with you that xp on and xp off battlegrounds are completely different... And yes I did mean to say that there are only 3 class' that dominate the bracket. Every class is viable....
When I first started playing I played a trial account where 20 was the cap and it only lasted 7-10 days
I know this bracket has the most unskilled people I said that 1-2 posts up, It's also (one of) the biggest brackets there is...
I only thought F2P rolled hunters was because they were easy... Don't get me wrong I know a lot of great hunters... Natsu, Pussmagnet, I know Lilli is a great F2P hunter... and I'm not here to put hate on hunters(All though I am a warrior and they piss me off so much it's not why I'm here.) I have also seen a lot of amazing F2P Rogues, Pallys, Mages... Every class that there is, there are always going to be F2P that play amazing and P2P that play it just as good...
I said on the last page that I know that this bracket is alive because of the F2P. Which sounds hypocritical I know, I was only asking why people do it...
Deadvulcano
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Oh I'm sorry, I forgot you rolled a 24. Let me break it down for you:
You want to "loudly" have better gear (advantage) because you pay. Clear?
Sundusk
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From what I've seen, plenty of people have given you reasons why they f2p and why you're losing, but instead, you say that all you got from this was "a cheap laugh"......buddy, realize that you're talking to the wrong people. The f2ps reading and commenting on this thread are, for the most part, the small population of legit f2p twinks, you're arguing with the wrong people. Sorry if you think this wasted your time, but thats the stone cold truth.
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