I don't understand F2P twinking..

[Atrixi]

From what I've seen, plenty of people have given you reasons why they f2p and why you're losing, but instead, you say that all you got from this was "a cheap laugh"......buddy, realize that you're talking to the wrong people. The f2ps reading and commenting on this thread are, for the most part, the small population of legit f2p twinks, you're arguing with the wrong people. Sorry if you think this wasted your time, but thats the stone cold truth.

I know, There are 3 main reasons why people play F2P.

1. It's free.
2. It's challenging.
3. When you kill a 24 it gives you joy because they are "Better"

The only reason I'm still here is because people are still commenting. I'm not one to just leave a thread I've started. Yes people have given answers but it's turned into a conversation with people in the F2P community and I enjoy talking to them about stuff that has been on my mind for a while.

I am 100% aware that a lot of the people I'm talking about will never read this... I am merely getting all of this off my chest as I've been thinking about it for a while and I wanted a legitimate answer, which a lot of people have given me...

Thank you for taking the time to read through most if not all of the posts and give me your opinion.

Oh I'm sorry, I forgot you rolled a 24. Let me break it down for you:


You want to "loudly" have better gear (advantage) because you pay. Clear?

Allowed* Thank you for pointing out my spelling mistake.

Also just to clarify... Gear does not equal skill... Not by a long shot... I know a lot of F2P that are better then me.. I will openly admit that.. I'm not saying that being a 24 automatically makes you better then 20's... Yes it does give you an advantage but if you don't know how to play or what to do with it then it's not much of an advantage now is it?

 

[Kearbear]

I guess I would answer the question "why play f2p" with another question: why would I pay 15$ a month to do virtually the same thing that I do for free?

The fact is that even if I were paying for the game I would most likely be playing this bracket. I would have 2 options with this: 1) roll 24, play it, get bored for obvious reasons and /quitgame 2) roll 20 for the challenge. And then what? Why would I play 20 with trial restrictions on a full account unless I just had masses of extra cash laying around and really wanted to help people group?

That combined with my personal commitment to never give blizz another single cent ever are why I don't pay for this game.

As to the suggestion that all or most of f2ps run around not playing to objectives, that might be true. However you won't find all or most of those people here so there's no point bringing it up as though they are.

 

[Atrixi]

I guess I would answer the question "why play f2p" with another question: why would I pay 15$ a month to do virtually the same thing that I do for free?

The fact is that even if I were paying for the game I would most likely be playing this bracket. I would have 2 options with this: 1) roll 24, play it, get bored for obvious reasons and /quitgame 2) roll 20 for the challenge. And then what? Why would I play 20 with trial restrictions on a full account unless I just had masses of extra cash laying around and really wanted to help people group?

That combined with my personal commitment to never give blizz another single cent ever are why I don't pay for this game.

As to the suggestion that all or most of f2ps run around not playing to objectives, that might be true. However you won't find all or most of those people here so there's no point bringing it up as though they are.

I found the 24 by accident. I still play on my 85, I play on my priest, I enjoy leveling characters.. When I want to PvP i get on my warrior because I find it fun and playing with friends... Also the instant ques are fun...

I know that I won't find the people who don't play objectively here but I am also starting a conversation with people about the subject... I like to talk about things with other people and find out how other people think and feel about the things I and I know a lot of other people encounter on a possible day to day basis... I am new to the twinking world (only about 2 months) and I know a lot of people have been here for years... But I know how to play the game(Objectively) and enjoy doing so.

 

[Patrol]

I love how blizzard has changed the BG's so that 10's, 20's, 30's etc don't get face rolled by max bracket level characters who have BiS gear/enchants.

lawl

But then again, I guess I have to remember at the end of the day I'm playing a kids game.

^ Obviously a kind, mature adult.

When I first joined this bracket I had no intention of face rolling 20's as I was still under the impression that 'Trial Accounts' were actually trial accounts.. They lasted 7-10 days then it ran out and you either had to pay for it to continue or you had to enter another trial code and make a new account... I didn't know that there was no limit on them...

Welp, too late to change now. Guess you're stuck at 24 for all eternity.

Why f2p? The community and working around the restrictions, and the ease of switching to a new class with only 20 levels to cover.
Also too cheap for an endless endgame gear grind which I feel obligated to do for hours daily

 

[Deadvulcano]

Spelling is still not the issue, but I can see that isn't going anywhere.

Also just to clarify... Gear does not equal skill...

Yes, this is why Guild Wars 2 exists. A game where skill matters because the gear and levels are equal.

 

[Atrixi]

Spelling is still not the issue, but I can see that isn't going anywhere.



Yes, this is why Guild Wars 2 exists. A game where skill matters because the gear and levels are equal.

Having the best gear does not mean that you are the greatest player...

Also if spelling is not the issue then there was no need to bring up my spelling in the first place. I'm not the most educated person(waits for smart *** comment) but I do try my best to be literate.

 

[Deadvulcano]

Having the best gear does not mean that you are the greatest player...

I'll try again I guess. I wish I knew how to help people understand.

What do you even mean by saying "the best gear does not mean you are the greatest player." Do you honestly think that anyone on this forum has an issue with this.

The greatest player on a 20 cannot compete with a 24. Do you understand this? A caster will constantly miss cc (snares, roots, sheep, fear, etc), no amount of skill can overcome rng due to level and gear imbalance. The only thing that makes it interesting is that the worst 24s can still be challenging because of blizzards retarded game mechanics. If anyone thinks that rng or gear has anything to do with skill they are insane.

Let me say that a little differently:
24s are ONLY challenging because of the rng involved.

24s are bad, and they should feel bad

 

[youakim]

24s are bad, and they should feel bad

M'kay?

 

[Deadvulcano]

M'kay?

 

[Lil]

How are PuG 24s different then 5-10 F2P premades? jw... If 24s left would you stop premading with 4 or 9 other people? doubtful

 

[youakim]

no? :<

 

[Cellebate]

I can understand your wondering why people f2p twink. I know I've wondered myself why other people twink 24 or mb twink. I've come to the conclusion that it's because that's what the person enjoys. I don't subscribe to for WoW any more because it was too time consuming, as someone else has all ready stated. It always felt like I had to play to get my money's worth. F2p puts enough limitations that all I want to do is log on for a bit to pvp and then I'm good. There's no "need" to log on every day to do stupid JC quests, or keep up with being at the top of the guild.

And yes, unless you premake, most of the time you'll enter a bg and just pray that 2 other people on your team know how to play somewhat decently/speak English. You gain hope in this bracket by celebrating the hard earned wins. There's never a bg where I don't know at least one player. You learn your enemies and know their habits. You learn your team and know who can be counted on. And since you're p2p you can recruit the good players to come reroll on your server and premake with them. Also, I think you might enjoy your bgs more if you join with a healer or know how to make friends with the healers early on in the bgs. I've seen many a warrior who complain about the lack of heals, but don't even play on the same half of the field as the healer(s).

Edit to add: I have never once played capture the flag and I'm 30, so it's not unreasonable to me that most people haven't either. It took me a while to figure WSG out and that was after reading wowwiki on it a few times.

 

[epicf2p]

the non english part is mainly on horde side. just sayin

 

[Bizarre]

F2P 20's started this bracket.
This bracket would be nothing without F2P 20's.
You have no voice when you're just another 24, who in the long run, has ruined games for the entire trial community. Telling trial twinks (who clearly know, find no appeal, and clearly still refuse to upgrade their F2P accounts) that we're missing out "on 4 levels(1-2 skills) a lot of BiS Gear and Enchants", is quite ironic, because you're essentially missing out on the entire, super duper, exciting, high level content that you pay for.

 

[Atrixi]

F2P 20's started this bracket.
This bracket would be nothing without F2P 20's.
You have no voice when you're just another 24, who in the long run, has ruined games for the entire trial community. Telling trial twinks (who clearly know, find no appeal, and clearly still refuse to upgrade their F2P accounts) that we're missing out "on 4 levels(1-2 skills) a lot of BiS Gear and Enchants", is quite ironic, because you're essentially missing out on the entire, super duper, exciting, high level content that you pay for.

I know, I have stated twice through out this thread that this bracket is big because of the F2P. And I have never told anyone anything. I said that if you are F2P you miss out on the gear/enchants you would otherwise have if you were P2P.

Also as I have stated that End game to me is boring, I don't like grinding for gear that becomes irrelevant every few months because of patches/expansions... I have one 85 toon who I play on occasionally, and will continue to level to cap every expansion to stay 'up to date' with the end game items/enchants etc.

I'll try again I guess. I wish I knew how to help people understand.

What do you even mean by saying "the best gear does not mean you are the greatest player." Do you honestly think that anyone on this forum has an issue with this.

The greatest player on a 20 cannot compete with a 24. Do you understand this? A caster will constantly miss cc (snares, roots, sheep, fear, etc), no amount of skill can overcome rng due to level and gear imbalance. The only thing that makes it interesting is that the worst 24s can still be challenging because of blizzards retarded game mechanics. If anyone thinks that rng or gear has anything to do with skill they are insane.

Let me say that a little differently:
24s are ONLY challenging because of the rng involved.

24s are bad, and they should feel bad

Since you are obviously trolling this thread and me, I am going to ask you to leave and letting you know that after this post, Anything you say I will ignore.

P.S Since you are so desperate to help people, I will give you some useful advice..

1. Don't sound like an A-hole.

 

[Atrixi]

Lagged and posted twice.

 

[Bizarre]

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[inoobupro]

bro just admit you rolled a 24 because you needed the enchants.Even a warrior can wreck i saw today procd his ''Holy Strength 100 str'' was critting for 1000's on people
I was first a f2p...then i got tired of getting beat by 24 hunters/any 24.Then i rolled 24 too and do i enjoy proving 24 superiority when im on my p2p.

Then i get on my f2p healers/characters and other side has 24s and i get raging behind the screen the second i get focus dumped by that 24 hunter or any 24 that decides to attack me because they would die in 1 hit when im boxing(literally if i decide to press that explosive shot button or rven 4 arcane shot someone goes down in 1 hit)

but on the f2ps bright side its ok...sure f2ps have to run bfd for doomspike/RoP but at least they dont have to run through one thing...dreaded GNOMER,I already have mekgineer thermaplugg burned into my brain.
Lemme just say one thing-gnomer ruins lives

 

[Swagbasket]

The 20-24 bracket, is comprised mainly of f2p 20's.

f2p are mainly comprised of people who are new to the game. They are new to the game, spells, possibly even new to online PvP.

In my case, I try to avoid these newer players by premading with people from AP horde, who gear for f2p BiS, and know the objectives of WSG.

Honestly, with choice of brackets you have as a p2p, expecting top notch pvp players in a STARTER EDITION ACCOUNT dominated bracket is a little silly.

You don't understand f2p twinking? Well too bad. What did you think you were going to find? This bracket is a school, not a retirement home.

Honestly this just sounds like you rolled a 24 because you thought you could have a good time face-rolling new clueless people, but now you're just a little disappointed because you probably forgot that those same clueless people were also going to be on your team.

Stop acting you're 'all that' coming into this bracket with 4 levels the majority of this bracket can't get, enchants the majority of this bracket can't get. and gear the majority of this bracket can't get.

 

[Nohealsforju]

24s must realize (like i have) 20s make this bracket.

20s must realize that 24s(and millions of other subscribers) make the game continue on.

i would f2p twink but it tests my patience unlike gnomer it is easy to get thru much like dailies on my main.