Dirtyauction - 19 Rogue (1080 HD)

Give me that awsome song please ! awsome video also :)
 
Had 6 posts removed by the OP. No problem tho. They were off-topic.
To stay on-topic, this video was relatively decent, but of inferior quality, when comparing to his paladin video quoted somewhere in this thread.
 
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pelotera said:
Just because DA isnt your guildmaster doesn't make him any less of a player nor does it make you any less of a guildmember by paying respect where its due.
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Did i say he is a bad paladin ? Are you trying to look even more retarded or what ? I just said he isn't rank one pally.
 
Thanks for posting this for DA Laurasia. Idk why TI would ban someone who contributes so much to this community. And has for a lonnnnng time.

Europeans - get over it, your players are not better than US players. Especially now that they don't exist.
 
Ciren said:
Thanks for posting this for DA Laurasia. Idk why TI would ban someone who contributes so much to this community. And has for a lonnnnng time.

Europeans - get over it, your players are not better than US players. Especially now that they don't exist.
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Any proof 4k HP rogue ?
 
Ciren said:
Europeans - get over it, your players are not better than US players. Especially now that they don't exist.
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Anyone in 19s who breathes knows exactly what's wrong. These EU haters had 0 capability of putting their bracket's needs before their damage charts. As a result they killed their own bracket.

They come to US and own the damage charts even if they never land kills. They can't fathom that damage is a pointless statistic. Most US players got over the damage chart ego fuel issue in their first year of playing and as a result most 19s now focus on the actually important things such as interrupts and cc (neither show on the stats page)

However, they have seared into their minds that damage charts are what's important and US players are playing for objectives. Therefore, EU players will never consider US players good because we are beyond focusing on damage done.

All I see is disrespect and derailment.

There are many EU players whom do not fit this stereotype but nearly all of the ones who came to US to continue their gy farming habits do. It's no secret who the problematic players are. At first I gave them the reason of a doubt but they have proved themselves time and time again that they fit exactly into this generalization.

These guys will never know what it means to be an objectively outstanding player and I'm sorry they have tried to bring this excellent showcase of what it truly means to be a great player down to their level (in the dirt).

DA is really, really good. Anyone who denies it is simply lying to get a rise. I guarantee that if DA said he was quitting everyone would be really sad to lose a great player (whether they publicly admit it or not)

Every player in the bracket deserves to be respected for different reasons... Sidni may not have been the best lock but she had 100k hks twice before anyone else had it once. Minitonka may not be the most knowing twink but he is one of the nicest and coolest cats I've talked with. Etc the list goes on to every player I've met in the bracket.

Aside from specifics, it is absolutely insane to believe that anyone would actually have the guts and respect players for the most important reason. I can only name a few people who understand the most important reason. As a result they do not gain respect because people see them as weak.

The reason I'm referring to is that we should all respect everyone because we are a dying breed and we rely on each other to make games happen. "The huntress is nothing without the hunt" comes to mind. This requires a much higher development of thinking which is rare to see in our bracket.

It requires someone putting their personal ego driving needs aside and focusing on making 19s enjoyable for others. This is why you see people who love one class play other classes to help out the team. The only class I truly want to play at 19 is rogue however I pretty much quit playing rogue at the end of wotlk and made a bunch of healers.

I'm not saying people should respect me and I'm not saying I'm doing anything "right", but I am saying that the community should evolve further and truly care for our opponents and realize that we need to respect each other.

Let other's needs before our own. That's when things start to become great.
 
Output is important, Mocha. Killing blows on high value targets (ones with high output) is important too. Finishing a kill on a high value target means you're essentially robbing that target of all of their output for a period of time. A statistic no damage chart will show you. Even though a rogue isn't as capable as other classes of individual output, their capability of eliminating those classes makes them the most valuable class on the field.

DA is respected, even by those who don't admit it. Hate is a strong form of respect. Hate is envy. To hate is to recognize an individual is on an entirely different level. Envy is jealousy.
 
DA was a good shaman when I was playing, but he was a mediocre rogue. I don't know if he gotten any better, but as a person, he was very egocentric, maniac and self-delusional. He couldn't just admit defeated. I remember beating him as RogDru vs PriRog back in 3.3.5 on DetourWoW (any respectable player knows what comp should win on this), and he couldn't just admit defeat. I went into his vent, and he instantly banned me from there, and started bashing me ingame. Result: I took screenshots of every fart I gave regarding him (got every screenshot of every beating I gave him).

I don't know if DA got any better, but I can only assume that he didn't (or he wouldn't be banished from the community).

To sum it up for those of you sceptics and tl;dr: A player should only be respected if he can ACKNOWLEDGE respect.

Regarding another issue, if EU players are acting like that, EU has lost quality. That was nothing like that back when I and the true respectable EU twinks were playing.
 
Mocha said:
Anyone in 19s who breathes knows exactly what's wrong. These EU haters had 0 capability of putting their bracket's needs before their damage charts. As a result they killed their own bracket.

They come to US and own the damage charts even if they never land kills. They can't fathom that damage is a pointless statistic. Most US players got over the damage chart ego fuel issue in their first year of playing and as a result most 19s now focus on the actually important things such as interrupts and cc (neither show on the stats page)

However, they have seared into their minds that damage charts are what's important and US players are playing for objectives. Therefore, EU players will never consider US players good because we are beyond focusing on damage done.

All I see is disrespect and derailment.

There are many EU players whom do not fit this stereotype but nearly all of the ones who came to US to continue their gy farming habits do. It's no secret who the problematic players are. At first I gave them the reason of a doubt but they have proved themselves time and time again that they fit exactly into this generalization.

These guys will never know what it means to be an objectively outstanding player and I'm sorry they have tried to bring this excellent showcase of what it truly means to be a great player down to their level (in the dirt).

DA is really, really good. Anyone who denies it is simply lying to get a rise. I guarantee that if DA said he was quitting everyone would be really sad to lose a great player (whether they publicly admit it or not)

Every player in the bracket deserves to be respected for different reasons... Sidni may not have been the best lock but she had 100k hks twice before anyone else had it once. Minitonka may not be the most knowing twink but he is one of the nicest and coolest cats I've talked with. Etc the list goes on to every player I've met in the bracket.

Aside from specifics, it is absolutely insane to believe that anyone would actually have the guts and respect players for the most important reason. I can only name a few people who understand the most important reason. As a result they do not gain respect because people see them as weak.

The reason I'm referring to is that we should all respect everyone because we are a dying breed and we rely on each other to make games happen. "The huntress is nothing without the hunt" comes to mind. This requires a much higher development of thinking which is rare to see in our bracket.

It requires someone putting their personal ego driving needs aside and focusing on making 19s enjoyable for others. This is why you see people who love one class play other classes to help out the team. The only class I truly want to play at 19 is rogue however I pretty much quit playing rogue at the end of wotlk and made a bunch of healers.

I'm not saying people should respect me and I'm not saying I'm doing anything "right", but I am saying that the community should evolve further and truly care for our opponents and realize that we need to respect each other.

Let other's needs before our own. That's when things start to become great.
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1. This is off-topic.
2. Keep your generalizations to yourself.

OnT: Great vid, DA!
 
Mocha said:
Anyone in 19s who breathes knows exactly what's wrong. These EU haters had 0 capability of putting their bracket's needs before their damage charts. As a result they killed their own bracket.

They come to US and own the damage charts even if they never land kills. They can't fathom that damage is a pointless statistic. Most US players got over the damage chart ego fuel issue in their first year of playing and as a result most 19s now focus on the actually important things such as interrupts and cc (neither show on the stats page)

However, they have seared into their minds that damage charts are what's important and US players are playing for objectives. Therefore, EU players will never consider US players good because we are beyond focusing on damage done.

All I see is disrespect and derailment.

There are many EU players whom do not fit this stereotype but nearly all of the ones who came to US to continue their gy farming habits do. It's no secret who the problematic players are. At first I gave them the reason of a doubt but they have proved themselves time and time again that they fit exactly into this generalization.

These guys will never know what it means to be an objectively outstanding player and I'm sorry they have tried to bring this excellent showcase of what it truly means to be a great player down to their level (in the dirt).

DA is really, really good. Anyone who denies it is simply lying to get a rise. I guarantee that if DA said he was quitting everyone would be really sad to lose a great player (whether they publicly admit it or not)

Every player in the bracket deserves to be respected for different reasons... Sidni may not have been the best lock but she had 100k hks twice before anyone else had it once. Minitonka may not be the most knowing twink but he is one of the nicest and coolest cats I've talked with. Etc the list goes on to every player I've met in the bracket.

Aside from specifics, it is absolutely insane to believe that anyone would actually have the guts and respect players for the most important reason. I can only name a few people who understand the most important reason. As a result they do not gain respect because people see them as weak.

The reason I'm referring to is that we should all respect everyone because we are a dying breed and we rely on each other to make games happen. "The huntress is nothing without the hunt" comes to mind. This requires a much higher development of thinking which is rare to see in our bracket.

It requires someone putting their personal ego driving needs aside and focusing on making 19s enjoyable for others. This is why you see people who love one class play other classes to help out the team. The only class I truly want to play at 19 is rogue however I pretty much quit playing rogue at the end of wotlk and made a bunch of healers.

I'm not saying people should respect me and I'm not saying I'm doing anything "right", but I am saying that the community should evolve further and truly care for our opponents and realize that we need to respect each other.

Let other's needs before our own. That's when things start to become great.
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You have no clue about what happen on EU please stop in the name of love...

We can perfectly land kill and top damage aswell, you are claiming you playing objectives, EU aswell because we win. That's the overall objective.

We don't even GY farm we contain, ask Junoo if you really want to know what's GY farm.
 
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