An Honest Question

[Upswag]

The problem with f2p WoW is, that it's probably turning off as many potential subscribers as it is bringing in. If WoW wants to keep its subscriptions model for a few more years, it needs to get with the times and offer a viable f2p experience for new players. Sure we get a lot out of it, but twinks aren't your typical players.

If I were a new player, based on the current f2p experience, I wouldn't subscribe. I'd play another, more modern game. Don't get me wrong, I love WoW, but Blizzard is not putting its best foot forward with f2p, instead it's highlighting the most broken aspects of the game to potential customers. You wouldn't show a girl your hentai collection on a first date, likewise, WoW needs to clean up it's act if it wants to propagate.

I think Blizzard is focused on triage and keeping long term players (like you and I for example) and trying to fix end game so we go back to that. If Blizzard even somewhat fixes end-game most of the good players will go back to their cash cow. I doubt they care about new players now. They can get those after they stabilize.

 

[Goesid]

The problem with f2p WoW is, that it's probably turning off as many potential subscribers as it is bringing in. If WoW wants to keep its subscriptions model for a few more years, it needs to get with the times and offer a viable f2p experience for new players. Sure we get a lot out of it, but twinks aren't your typical players.

If I were a new player, based on the current f2p experience, I wouldn't subscribe. I'd play another, more modern game. Don't get me wrong, I love WoW, but Blizzard is not putting its best foot forward with f2p, instead it's highlighting the most broken aspects of the game to potential customers. You wouldn't show a girl your hentai collection on a first date, likewise, WoW needs to clean up it's act if it wants to propagate.

You have a hentai collection?

 

[Srs]

You have a hentai collection?

No comment.

 

[Daltert Moropi]

i'd say that the ftp model is there to stay since there's some looming problems over it if they do imminently took it down (like economy and loosing more subscribers).

but for the most part, it is up to the future to decide the fate of the game. sure I'd like some sort of upgrade but not at the point of which would create the doom the game.

 

[Srs]

In my experience, most 24s fit into one of two categories:

1) Those that need to crutch because they are bad.
2) People that just love to have fun (torturing small animals).

 

[Conq]

One day Blizz will completely turn off the WoW servers, and even those who have invested years of work and paid a subscription will lose everything too. Does anyone read the terms and conditions we all agree to every patch? I'm sure there's something in there which states how Blizz has the right to do absolutely anything they like to our accounts seeing as they belong to them, we merely pay to rent the service.. Once the cash cow has been milked it will go to slaughter.. It's probably not for a long time though. I think they will keep F2P as long as possible as it still attracts new subscribers

I could be mistaken but I've always heard that eventually they would leave them up after some xpac and maybe do minor tweaks here and there. I think it would be far more likely if they are still making enough money that they will just keep the servers up and not push out content. Ofc the servers and game would start to stagnate at that point but I only see this happening once Blizz pushes the next big mmorpg

 

[Sponsor]

Blizz gives with one hand, and takes from the other.

 

[Conq]

Who said those first days were so fun, sure there was some enjoyable moments of taking on 5 people at ones but certainly not the most fun. I'm curious, what is it that makes you think F2Ps wants these rocks, or people "back in the days" (just had to use that very cool line once). If there are no scumbag 24s on either side nobody needs to be saved. The 24 can't prove he is better because he relies on having 300 more in the primary stat to kill the opponent and having that major advantage you cannot prove you're better unless one of them abide the others rules. You'd be suprised how many do but won't tell it to your face. Why shouldn't they?

You come in to the bracket with so much more stats that you take away the joy from both them and the opponent team. If you had a football game and somebody on your team came in with a machine gun and shot down the entire opposing team and you just had to play the game running around doing nothing cause the other guy wanted to have it so easy for himself he didn't give a rats ass if he killed the joy of the remaining people on the field. Having gained that achivments by shooting down others because you couldn't accept the rules of which the bracket is built upon doesn't mean much.

You should really try F2P before you come here with your fancy ideas of how wrong F2P is. Good luck with whatever it is you find fun about slaughtering people with like half your hp pool.


edit: I have an active P2P account so you can scratch that from your argument list.

I don't have an argument list, I have a discussion list, and I said right of the bat that I have zero issues with F2Ps and I actually support them, Hell i've even helped get some started on AD just to try and get a f2p community started there, so for the record I will say it exactly: THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH F2Ps IN MY OPINION. So you should probably read that (it's the first thing said on this thread) before you go assuming that I have opinions I don't, thanks.

I also said that the "rock of the BG" mentality went away once cross server BGs got put into place

Now to continue this discussion in a productive manner something you touched on that I found of interest and have seen in a lot of F2P's talk about is that they seem to think they own the bracket. Now while this is a matter of perspective, the way I see it is that p2p twinks existed years prior to F2Ps and that low level brackets in general have belonged to twink p2ps since BGs first came out. Thoughts?

 

[Goesid]

Now while this is a matter of perspective, the way I see it is that p2p twinks existed years prior to F2Ps and that low level brackets in general have belonged to twink p2ps since BGs first came out. Thoughts?

Not in this bracket. There is plenty of brackets to play it that way. F2P bracket is the only way to twink in that way, you came to the bracket cause you wanted to destroy the joy for them nothing else.

 

[CripzBlood]

In my experience, most 24s fit into one of two categories:

1) Those that need to crutch because they are bad.
2) People that just love to have fun (torturing small animals).

3) People that like hentai

 

[Conq]

Not in this bracket. There is plenty of brackets to play it that way. F2P bracket is the only way to twink in that way, you came to the bracket cause you wanted to destroy the joy for them nothing else.

Clearly you have no clue what kind of player I am, and don't think for a second I don't know that F2P's relish killing bad p2ps. Every twink wants to sate their ego.

 

[CripzBlood]

Clearly you have no clue what kind of player I am.

24twinks only appeared after trials became starter editions and at that moments other brackets were still active, most p2ps choose this bracket instead (mostly cuz of faster pops) p2ps killed their leet brackets and now are ruining 24-20 bracket, sure there are some 24s that play this bracket cuz they want to make it into 24 vs 24 competitive bracket so they can have most fun out of it, having guild vs guild premades and sometimes to relax do easy pugs or small premades, so far this bracket its has been getting worst and worst for f2ps, only good thing till now was lvl/ilvl scaling.

 

[l30t53dd6p]

There is not such a thing as a f2p bracket nor another bracket where p2p players can play low level battlegrounds. You know this; why do you continue holding on to this is a mistery. Just stop this nonsense.

 

[Goesid]

Clearly you have no clue what kind of player I am, and don't think for a second I don't know that F2P's relish killing bad p2ps. Every twink wants to sate their ego.

More so if you play on the same lines. Feeding your ego by beating players when you have such an advantage. Putting yourself on a pedistal to justify smacking F2Ps because you can't adjust to how the bracket was built.

There is not such a thing as a f2p bracket nor another bracket where p2p players can play low level battlegrunds. You know this; why do you continue holding on to this is a mistery. Just stop this nonsense.

If there were no 24s that does what I've already stated then yes there would be.

 

[l30t53dd6p]

If there were no 24s that does what I've already stated then yes there would be.

Did you forget what happened in the past? Your argument is stupid nonsense.

 

[Goesid]

Did you forget what happened in the past? Your argument is stupid nonsense.

You're gonna have to be more specific. The invasion of France? The loss of the shoogun for Japan? The fall of the Golden Horde? The rise of Castro?

You don't have one.

 

[l30t53dd6p]

You're gonna have to be more specific. The invasion of France? The loss of the shoogun for Japan? The fall of the Golden Horde? The rise of Castro?

You don't have one.

How long have you been twinking and how much did you drink to kill all those memories?

 

[Goesid]

How long have you been twinking and how much did you drink to kill all those memories?

7 years excluding breaks. I remember most of what happend back in BC and WotLK, why?

Exploiting behind the bases, joining a game farm some then leave come back later joins the same game, was pretty boring, skirmishes were fun though.

 

[Conq]

More so if you play on the same lines. Feeding your ego by beating players when you have such an advantage. Putting yourself on a pedistal to justify smacking F2Ps because you can't adjust to how the bracket was built.




If there were no 24s that does what I've already stated then yes there would be.

Haha my ego is a bit to big to be satisfied by killing f2ps.

Your solution will never be practical unless f2ps get their own bgs

 

[Goesid]

Haha my ego is a bit to big to be satisfied by killing f2ps.

Your solution will never be practical unless f2ps get their own bgs

So it's nothing for you just to make sure the rest of the players in the BG don't get to have fun. How honorable of you.