20s "Audit" Thread

Gametime is running out so looking for some help with the last pieces of gear. Armory.

Only doing random battlegrounds since I don't have time for Wargames sadly. Got a load of 2stam 2 str gems in bag ready for the talasite nerf, also farming chest upgrade and trying to get myself to spend some time farming for Daelos. Trinkets are usually switched out depending on what I do.


Is there something else I've missing?

Help @Chops @Goesid Don't hold back.
 
Soldjah said:
Gametime is running out so looking for some help with the last pieces of gear. Armory.

Only doing random battlegrounds since I don't have time for Wargames sadly. Got a load of 2stam 2 str gems in bag ready for the talasite nerf, also farming chest upgrade and trying to get myself to spend some time farming for Daelos. Trinkets are usually switched out depending on what I do.


Is there something else I've missing?

Help @Chops @Goesid Don't hold back.
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Boots are 5/5.
Theres not really any reason to play green belt and gloves but not shoulders when the tbc belt and gloves offer much more stats the tbc shoulders.
 
Goesid said:
Boots are 5/5.
Theres not really any reason to play green belt and gloves but not shoulders when the tbc belt and gloves offer much more stats the tbc shoulders.
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Will switch after talanerf since main reason was no talasites!

Edit: Pesky boots won't drop
 
Soldjah said:
Help @Chops @Goesid Don't hold back.
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If we're being really picky, then I'm not a fan of exarchs protector in that build. Breastplate of Righteous Fury offers more crit. Sure, you dont get the sweet 2 stam bonus but a pure talasite build? You dont really need it. When the nerf happens, I might stuff exarchs with +3 stam gems for an emergency FC set and have Righteous Fury loaded up with dps gems.

And since its just BGs, i think the rest is fine.
 
Chops said:
If we're being really picky, then I'm not a fan of exarchs protector in that build. Breastplate of Righteous Fury offers more crit. Sure, you dont get the sweet 2 stam bonus but a pure talasite build? You dont really need it. When the nerf happens, I might stuff exarchs with +3 stam gems for an emergency FC set and have Righteous Fury loaded up with dps gems.

And since its just BGs, i think the rest is fine.
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Thanks! Sadly I'll blame laziness on not getting Righteous Fury... Honestly not sure if going 3 str or just smacking full 2str/2stam in all slots. Any thoughts?

I do like the more beefy build and just relying on sader-swapping but might be more worth getting atleast some 3str gems in there...
 
Soldjah said:
Thanks! Sadly I'll blame laziness on not getting Righteous Fury... Honestly not sure if going 3 str or just smacking full 2str/2stam in all slots. Any thoughts?

I do like the more beefy build and just relying on sader-swapping but might be more worth getting atleast some 3str gems in there...
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I talked a little bit about this in the warrior earlier to day actually! But that was in regards to fury.

My current plan is to hold onto my +3 gems, of which I have 6, that are in my chest and weapon. I'll be replacing my talasites with str/stam gems. This is as much due to with laziness (i dont want to have to resub my vet or re-level WOTLK JC on my F2P) as it is any kind of stat optimization.

Lets play with some rough numbers. In general, you've got in the neighborhood of 20 gems so you can look at those slots as providing 60 str, 60 stam or 40str/40stm. If you start with the 40/40 split as the default, you can then start thinking of adding str or adding stam but because of stat distribution on gems, for every str you want you'll have to give up 2 stam and vice versa.

So in the case of someone like me, that mix would provide something like 46 str/28 stam. Looking at that kinda makes me cringe. Giving up 12 stam for 6 strength? eeeeeeeh maybe. I play mostly arenas with a dedicated healer, Ignore Pain is still huge mitigation and typically my healer is the primary kill target, not me. So probably not a terrible choice for me! But if i was mainly queing solo randoms? I might consider just full 2/2s.

Just kinda depends on where/how you play and what you can count on.
 
CigNus said:
I think the warlock is all set https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/blackwing-lair/ciglock

Same thing, mostly plan to arena and wargame
Will be getting the shoulder/leg enchant. Might get the belt/glider tinker.
Mostly playing Demo and Affl.
MIGHT snag a couple talasites for the tbc pieces because my health pool is a little low and 200 int is plenty.
There also might be an ATTEMPT to farm for the offhand from atal dazar. but I'm probably leaving zealot blade for swag points
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Bumping the demo (or any spec) lock cause I've been itching to BG
 
Hey guys, here's my Ret Pala.( https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/ravencrest/guççi )
I still have a sub so the only way I can test my characters ability is by duelling. I want you to nitpick the shit out of my gear and give me tips on the best way to build a ret pala because I’m not too happy with how it feels right now and want to output more burst damage.
I know I’m missing socket rings and trinket, I’m working on them at the moment. Any help will be appreciated.
 
Jkitch said:
Hey guys, here's my Ret Pala.( https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/ravencrest/guççi )
I still have a sub so the only way I can test my characters ability is by duelling. I want you to nitpick the shit out of my gear and give me tips on the best way to build a ret pala because I’m not too happy with how it feels right now and want to output more burst damage.
I know I’m missing socket rings and trinket, I’m working on them at the moment. Any help will be appreciated.
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your boots rolled 5/5 which isn't a big deal but essentially a nitpick.
you going for the rezan ring? pretty easy socket to farm.
Calling @Peer our resident paladin to weigh in.
I think you can drop the mastery gear (harmonious) I'm not sure how good it is for ret but if you notice it helps I would keep elek tusk for burst window
That's my best guess
 
Jkitch said:
Hey guys, here's my Ret Pala.( https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/ravencrest/guççi )
I still have a sub so the only way I can test my characters ability is by duelling. I want you to nitpick the shit out of my gear and give me tips on the best way to build a ret pala because I’m not too happy with how it feels right now and want to output more burst damage.
I know I’m missing socket rings and trinket, I’m working on them at the moment. Any help will be appreciated.
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so you want more burst damage, well honestly speaking the elekk tusk probably does the job fairly well as far as supplying mastery and giving you some juicy verdicts. For bigger hits you should be dropping some haste and such and going more towards mastery/str. If that’s all you want then that’s all the advice i’d give…

However

I’m not a huge fan of giving up haste on a paladin!! I think your cds are too long and you feel sort of… clunky.

What you could do is try grabbing Greaves of the Martyr and gemming for str haste and then swapping out some of the str haste gems you have in the i28 gear for more strength (+3 gems).

i’d drop some of the mastery by swapping harm gear with some aurora and hitting that sweet spot of around 25-30% haste, you already have mark on neck so you can probs drop wrists + gloves and allocate stats differently.

The str stam gems are fine but you’re only getting about 140 extra health from them, i think you would benefit more elsewhere, but if you like it then it’s nbd.

it’s all about playing around crusader (duh), but you can certainly change a few things and make it hit hard without it.

if you want more or wanna theorycraft feel free to message me on here or on discord (this is super hard to do on mobile)

edit1: i’ll add more when i get home if you don’t hit me up on either

TL;DR for other paladins: haste good
 
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Donor said:
do me next
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/kelthuzad/ðønor
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we've talked about this but im not convinced of the harmonious chest and legs in place of triple socket TBC options. Also seems weird to go for stam enchants with glass gems.

Consider the wrist enchant, for instance. 6 stam in bgs while losing out of 4 str. You could run three 2/2 gems to pick up that 6 stam, run 4 str on the bracers and you'd only lose 3 str from gems. Net +1 str gain! Same with legs, thats 5 stam vs 3 str. You could again run three more 2/2 gems, 3 str leg enchant and gain 1 stam. Thats a whole 1/1 you're missing!

Or if you're going for the glass build, commit with the dmg enchants and +3 gems.
 
CigNus said:
Also do you find yourself rage starved?
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neva
as a twink
i m always foaming @ the bits
like the rest of u

Chops said:
we've talked about this but im not convinced of the harmonious chest and legs in place of triple socket TBC options. Also seems weird to go for stam enchants with glass gems.

Consider the wrist enchant, for instance. 6 stam in bgs while losing out of 4 str. You could run three 2/2 gems to pick up that 6 stam, run 4 str on the bracers and you'd only lose 3 str from gems. Net +1 str gain! Same with legs, thats 5 stam vs 3 str. You could again run three more 2/2 gems, 3 str leg enchant and gain 1 stam. Thats a whole 1/1 you're missing!

Or if you're going for the glass build, commit with the dmg enchants and +3 gems.
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wuteva dude
still bis @ pwnin u 1v1
 
na but srsly
i think i went with stam chants
cuz they scale better @ 29
since all my sockets cover str
i figured i would get just a smidgen of survivability
via better scaling

the idea behind going human was 2 juice an extra 5-6 secondaries
so stayed with the program and decided 2 juice extra prim/stam out of chants as well

i have a few tbc piece with talasites 4 a tankier set
but it honestly looks ugly
& makes my stats look ugly

will def re-gem to 2/2 str/stam
when the talasites r no longer relevant

i like mastery on a warr tho
its a very fun way 2 set urself up 4 big burst

blame dj 4 this adopted doctrine

ps
CigNus said:
Also do you find yourself rage starved with 0 haste?
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i have a feverflare set i mix & match pieces from when fighting other warrs
but @ that point its not about rage gen
its about getting my colossus smash ms & execute off faster than the other bloke
 
Slammin said:
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/bleeding-hollow/minmaximust
Pretty content with my gear (I have a different helm don’t worry guys lol), just wondering what enchants I need really. Like legs and shoulders etc

also, should I use truth-bearer shoulders instead?
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str on wrists, stam/dodge on pants or i guess str enchant on pants works too, glider on cape, frag belt. Enchant names can be found here

shoulder enchant only works if you keep inscription meaning not to have alchemy, you can max alchemy make a flask and come back to it since it only requires lvl 1 alchemy to use.

cig has a good vid explaining shoulder enchants, it’s northrend enchanting the attack power crit enchant

no harm in having truth bearers, it’s just a dungeon run anyways; i think it would be ideal for max str, but most of the time i’m running ilvl 28 shoulders
 
Radoon said:
I like the idea of this thread a lot, even tho I'm late, here is my twink, who is being shown off to the community :)
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/argent-dawn/raadón
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talk about stat prioritization. how do you like not wearing all plate? do you notice it in damage you take?
also, nice winterfin proc!

Slammin said:
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/bleeding-hollow/minmaximust
Pretty content with my gear (I have a different helm don’t worry guys lol), just wondering what enchants I need really. Like legs and shoulders etc

also, should I use truth-bearer shoulders instead?
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I defer to @Peer on most paladin opinions
 
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