EU+US Why Twinking has become better in Legion. Asking about the attitude problem.

i would like to add that i hate these big health pools combined w unlimited mana and powerful heals. sure health pools were big in the early xpacs as well but you still had to watch your mana carefully making games pretty pretty pretty interesting. (correct me if im wrong only played a few games last week.)

Yeah, I think the large health pools made twinking a lot more boring tbh
 
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Way before there ever was wargaming and structured pleabmades. There were 5-10 and 15 man premades and syncing. That's not or had ever really died or stopped. This is what built the twinking community. When you were leveling or had exp off and you saw people running together or had the libram of consitution on or any one of the enchants. You knew you had to get them so you could compete. Then you told your friends and they did the same and started their own. 5-10 and 15 man premades. Until people stop doing that, then twinking is never truly dead or not competitive.

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Edit:. Sorry to Op and being off topic.

I'm replying here because I cba mods deleting everything when NWL cry about being offtopic there

But in response to this, comparing TBC/WotlK premades to actual competitions is like comparing queueing endgame 3v3 ladder at r1 to actual blizzcon games

Yes you might face the same teams but there's a world of difference in the competitiveness

In guild vs guild premades you'd keep queueing into each other until one guild can't fill their slots anymore, in Twink Cup there is no keep queueing until one team drops out.

But yes, that has stopped and I don't see any guilds actually working towards going against each other.

99% of twinks in legion are content with running their 5 man group of FOTM at anything even if its vs 10 levellers
 
We all thought legion would be great but i cant play this aids anymore. It literally feels like a moba and in no way is it balanced for low level brackets. Some classes and specs are pretty much useless and you have to play fotm to feel somewhat like a "twink".

Another thing is the fact we don't have the choice to use the old graphics, the new ones are utter shit so the game does not feel like it should hence why I have quit until things change.
 
My problem with legion is that some specs are just unplayable and if you get nerfed you'll have respec or go get ilvl gear (but i'm f2p for the most part)

e.g. assassination rogue
 
and this is how you got Trumped


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I'm replying here because I cba mods deleting everything when NWL cry about being offtopic there

But in response to this, comparing TBC/WotlK premades to actual competitions is like comparing queueing endgame 3v3 ladder at r1 to actual blizzcon games

Yes you might face the same teams but there's a world of difference in the competitiveness

In guild vs guild premades you'd keep queueing into each other until one guild can't fill their slots anymore, in Twink Cup there is no keep queueing until one team drops out.

But yes, that has stopped and I don't see any guilds actually working towards going against each other.

99% of twinks in legion are content with running their 5 man group of FOTM at anything even if its vs 10 levellers


I haven't had any of my posts deleted. I guess I haven't stated anything that the moderators thought needed deletion.

/cheers
 
I love that we finally see the hardcore "twinks" admit that the only reason they twink is to 1 shot scrubs. Thank you Legion!

Gotta love the hypocrisy of supposedly "1337 tw1nkz" crying that they don't have a stats/gear advantage and that FoTMs can kill them. Maybe check out runescape if that is still running? I heard you can pay to win there right! hahaha.
 
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I love that we finally see the hardcore "twinks" admit that the only reason they twink is to 1 shot scrubs. Thank you Legion!

Gotta love the hypocrisy of supposedly "1337 tw1nkz" crying that they don't have a stats/gear advantage and that FoTMs can kill them. Maybe check out runescape if that is still running? I heard you can pay to win there right! hahaha.


It is quite funny when 7.0 came out that these self proclaimed "hardcore" twinks were actually stating how they would now see who the "real twinks" were. Since BGs would be based solely on 'skillz'. It is now them that declare that 'Legion sux'.
Looks like the jokes on them after all.

/cheers
 
I love that we finally see the hardcore "twinks" admit that the only reason they twink is to 1 shot scrubs. Thank you Legion!

Gotta love the hypocrisy of supposedly "1337 tw1nkz" crying that they don't have a stats/gear advantage and that FoTMs can kill them. Maybe check out runescape if that is still running? I heard you can pay to win there right! hahaha.

Fuck does Runescape have to do with anything?
 
I love that we finally see the hardcore "twinks" admit that the only reason they twink is to 1 shot scrubs. Thank you Legion!

Gotta love the hypocrisy of supposedly "1337 tw1nkz" crying that they don't have a stats/gear advantage and that FoTMs can kill them. Maybe check out runescape if that is still running? I heard you can pay to win there right! hahaha.
You must be mentally challenged...
 
It is quite funny when 7.0 came out that these self proclaimed "hardcore" twinks were actually stating how they would now see who the "real twinks" were. Since BGs would be based solely on 'skillz'. It is now them that declare that 'Legion sux'.
Looks like the jokes on them after all.

/cheers
Can you please link said statements? Or are you simply making things up? Only desillusional idiots noone had ever heard of might have made such stupid statements.
 
I love that we finally see the hardcore "twinks" admit that the only reason they twink is to 1 shot scrubs. Thank you Legion!

Gotta love the hypocrisy of supposedly "1337 tw1nkz" crying that they don't have a stats/gear advantage and that FoTMs can kill them. Maybe check out runescape if that is still running? I heard you can pay to win there right! hahaha.

Since when was Ohti considered a hardcore twink?

please explain what advantages twink had in stats/gear advantage in locked xp battlegrounds?
or are you talking about the joke of a bracket that is F2Ps?
buying a sub isnt pay 2 win.

It is quite funny when 7.0 came out that these self proclaimed "hardcore" twinks were actually stating how they would now see who the "real twinks" were. Since BGs would be based solely on 'skillz'. It is now them that declare that 'Legion sux'.
Looks like the jokes on them after all.

/cheers

Yeah, hardcore twinks got bored of destroying levellers and realised this battleground re-merge wasnt how they pictured this expansion before playing it.

sorry.

I haven't had any of my posts deleted. I guess I haven't stated anything that the moderators thought needed deletion.

/cheers

I said that pre-emptively knowing they would start cleaning it up after I brought the discussion here, and they did..sooo...
 
I made a general statement, if you are offended it's because you agree with me haha.

please explain what advantages twink had in stats/gear advantage in locked xp battlegrounds?
or are you talking about the joke of a bracket that is F2Ps?
buying a sub isnt pay 2 win.

You mean before templated BGs where you had access to real enchants? Or rolling 29's/24's to gain extra skills ( don't pretend it doesn't matter, Rogues are only decent at the moment at 29 for example ). Oh wait you're talking about the 19s in the 20-29 forums for some reason? I think I remember that the 19s folded right after the XPoff BGs rolled out, and had to coordinate on the forums to even get games. But basically your question is kind of a trick question considering turning off your XP was a explicit action to put yourself in that bracket, so one would assume that no one would sign up without full enchants. Funny enough, the environment you laud is what we call a "level playing field" where all twinks have equal gearing, though there will still be class balance issues. If you are looking to experience a level playing field BG you should check out the 20s.
 
You mean before templated BGs where you had access to real enchants? Or rolling 29's/24's to gain extra skills ( don't pretend it doesn't matter, Rogues are only decent at the moment at 29 for example ). Oh wait you're talking about the 19s in the 20-29 forums for some reason? I think I remember that the 19s folded right after the XPoff BGs rolled out, and had to coordinate on the forums to even get games. But basically your question is kind of a trick question considering turning off your XP was a explicit action to put yourself in that bracket, so one would assume that no one would sign up without full enchants. Funny enough, the environment you laud is what we call a "level playing field" where all twinks have equal gearing, though there will still be class balance issues. If you are looking to experience a level playing field BG you should check out the 20s.

You realise we coordinated on forums to get real games full of twinks not random bgs lmao
20-29 have had 0 real games since legion so stop talking

in what world does anything you say make any sense? you're talking about level playing fields in 20-29 when there's never been a time where there's a level playing field.

pre cata - levellers in random bgs (not level playing field)
cata to wod - emergence of f2ps and therefore 24 twinks destroying you by outgearing/outenchanting, and similarly 29s when brackets werent split anymore
now - levellers in random bgs again (not level playing field)

just stop this
 
You realise we coordinated on forums to get real games full of twinks not random bgs lmao
20-29 have had 0 real games since legion so stop talking

in what world does anything you say make any sense? you're talking about level playing fields in 20-29 when there's never been a time where there's a level playing field.

pre cata - levellers in random bgs (not level playing field)
cata to wod - emergence of f2ps and therefore 24 twinks destroying you by outgearing/outenchanting, and similarly 29s when brackets werent split anymore
now - levellers in random bgs again (not level playing field)

just stop this

You realize you are the one who went completely sideways responding to my post right? Like I said, I made a fairly general statement yet here you are all upset.

You seem to be hung up on this magical era where you and 19 of your friends could have "real" games in the 19s... must have been some serious ass cyber sessions lol.
 
I love that we finally see the hardcore "twinks" admit that the only reason they twink is to 1 shot scrubs. Thank you Legion!

Gotta love the hypocrisy of supposedly "1337 tw1nkz" crying that they don't have a stats/gear advantage and that FoTMs can kill them. Maybe check out runescape if that is still running? I heard you can pay to win there right! hahaha.

(1) gear and enchants were a great way to counter extremely OP classes tbh i can't imagine what wod wouldve been like (BM MONK FERAL DRUID PLAGUE) if gear/enchants didnt matter

(2) i totally love gearing twinks, thats what made me (i) start twinking (ii) continue twinking (iii) quit retail twinking

(3) you call it 1 shotting scrubs i call it being able to have a major impact on a game single-handedly w/o needing to depend on others. when ive been to the library for an entire day i wanna come home and mutilate asses in WSG lol

((4) this has already been mentioned above but xp off has been going on for the past what 3-4 years? and since wod (?) lower lvl players' gear have been scaling up in bgs which makes the whole 20 vs 29 (24) discussion pretty weird)
 
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(1) gear and enchants were a great way to counter extremely OP classes tbh i can't imagine what wod wouldve been like (BM MONK FERAL DRUID PLAGUE) if gear/enchants didnt matter

(2) i totally love gearing twinks, thats what made me (i) start twinking (ii) continue twinking (iii) quit retail twinking

(3) you call it 1 shotting scrubs i call it being able to have a major impact on a game single-handedly w/o needing to depend on others. when ive been to the library for an entire day i wanna come home and mutilate asses in WSG lol

((4) this has already been mentioned above but xp off has been going on for the past what 3-4 years? and since wod (?) lower lvl players' gear have been scaling up in bgs which makes the whole 20 vs 29 (24) discussion pretty weird)

Counter points ;)

1) Gear enchants helped BM monk / feral just as much as you keeping their OP ceiling ever higher.

2) Can't argue with this. Part of the "investment grind" that attaches you to your chars. After they essentially negated my old "Lt. Commander" title from the original honor system I lost the desire to bother with retail.

3) Potato, onshot-scrub-o?

4) There are still definite advantages to the extra skills gained at max level for the BG group. Some are more class defining than others but it has always been the case. 24-29 Rogues have had stuff like Vanish, shadowstep, and currently blind while 20s don't. Nothing game breaking per se but definitely would be nice to have.
 
who cares about gear, legion is just boring. its slow, you have less utility and the difference between "normal" and "fotm" specs is as bad as in every other expansion

edit: and "you cant farm undergeared ppl anymore" is beyond retarded, the only 2 active brackets during WOD were 19s (with 100% twinks) and 20-29 (with like 80-90% vets/29s), people farmed because they played fotm just like they do now
 
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