Warlords of Draenor Changes for F2P

[Snowjobs]

And the chances of that happening is about the same odds of a pug of spanish players coordinating CC together.. Common can people stop exaggerating already dang

Also I frequently get stronger heals than those so exaggerating dmg and making heals seem weaker to make your point.. If you are gonna throw out numbers atleast make them realistic. Also I giggled at a hunt being able to cast 4 moves in one GCD but healers only 1

Sorry but the only thing that can heal harder than that in combat is a ret pally str stacked . Dps shows moves that hit in the span of a gcd . Note how I said 1 serpent sting tick or 2 explosive shot ticks . All of these numbers are very reasonable and the healer numbers are probably a little bit high . Due to the long missile time of incinerate at max range u can cast the second before thee first hits that's why they can burst because everything hits at about the same time . Feel free to point out anything that seems crazy and I'll address it [MENTION=14218]Lil[/MENTION] also note that there is no cc included in these calculations or mortal strike debuff.

 

[inoobupro]

No duh but a hunt can't cast explosive shot, auto shot, pet attack, serpent sting, arcane shot, arcane shot in the time it takes a healer to cast one spell. Either take away from the dmging abilities or add to healing abilities which is what I said if you can read


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yes he cant cast arcane shot arcane shot sting at the same time

but oh..lil lil....220k HKS on a hunter and still no idea that you can macro pet claw for max burst . It may be a good idea to check out some hunter macros or focus macros over at the hunters forum .

A hunter can cast explosive shot/pet claw/autoshot all in 1 GCD tho and thats like what? 1000 damage ?

 

[Mesikämmen]

I'd take 5.0 over this patch any day... I'd rather play with f2ps and reasonably balanced p2ps and not kill shit, than face 5x 24 premade every game, who global 2k damage each All I can say is that this patch is by far the worst patch I've ever played, and I've played this game since TBC :/

But honestly, it's likely not going to be like 5.0 again. So many changes are about to happen that it's impossible to say how the bracket/game is gonna be in WoD. But it'd be hard to make it worse than how it currently is...

 

[Allybeboba]

You are 19 and yet you call people "invading" your bracket and this thread children?
Oh my...

 

[Snowjobs]

Might as well explain hunter burst since neither Inub or lil seems to get my point completely . Both serpent sting and explosive shot are ALREADY on the target just like how a warlock already has imolate on the target or a balance Druid already has mf and sunfire ( forgot to ad in damage for them but what ever) . When you are dumpin ur two arcane shots in the span of one healers gcd you also will get two ticks of that explosive shot one of serpent sting . If you manually control your pet and it's abilities instead of having everything on auto (roar of sac) you can have your pet charge in with rabbit up get off the basic attack and 2 auto attacks followed by another basic .have to manually do this . All of this happens in a span of 1.5 sec .

 

[Goesid]

Might as well explain hunter burst since neither Inub or lil seems to get my point completely . Both serpent sting and explosive shot are ALREADY on the target just like how a warlock already has imolate on the target or a balance Druid already has mf and sunfire ( forgot to ad in damage for them but what ever) . When you are dumpin ur two arcane shots in the span of one healers gcd you also will get two ticks of that explosive shot one of serpent sting . If you manually control your pet and it's abilities instead of having everything on auto (roar of sac) you can have your pet charge in with rabbit up get off the basic attack and 2 auto attacks followed by another basic .have to manually do this . All of this happens in a span of 1.5 sec .

Serpent Sting ticks 200-350
Riptide ticks 20-40

Yah

 

[Goesid]

Tech me hoi 2 kast explcive sarpent n 2 arkane shotz in 1.5 sekonds. Tech me ur secretz ole wizeazz 1

keybindings.

 

[Goesid]

Ahah! That must be it. I just need to bind everything to 10 buttons per spell so the GCD will become 0. Thx for the help

Put out explo shot and arc shot everywhere on the screen and on everybind and just go hodor on it.

 

[Mesikämmen]

Tech me hoi 2 kast explcive sarpent n 2 arkane shotz in 1.5 sekonds. Tech me ur secretz ole wizeazz 1

You need to look up what GCD means. Also don't add on dmging spells n say "oh ya those were already casted" just to further exaggerate your healing so up theory

If you took your time to think, you'd also realize the healer version of "1 global heals" also had their HoT's applied to themselves. Snowjobs numbers seem pretty correct, although yeah it's highly unlikely to have all your spells crit, but his heals were all crits aswell, so no exaggeration there

 

[Crody-Magtheridon]

20-29 brackets oh gawddd... Anybody that kones more about this?

 

[Buckeye]

Tech me hoi 2 kast explcive sarpent n 2 arkane shotz in 1.5 sekonds. Tech me ur secretz ole wizeazz 1

You need to look up what GCD means. Also don't add on dmging spells n say "oh ya those were already casted" just to further exaggerate your healing so up theory

you can't possibly be that dense. anyone with half a brain knows how to line up shots.
Steady Shot > Explosive Shot both land at roughly the same time.
Flash of Light > Holy Shock both land at roughly the same time.
so YES. it IS possible

 

[Bop]

I'll take "Threads that have derailed" for 500, Alex.

 

[Buckeye]

My Resto shaman in proper gear heals for 330s, I can't put out 1k heals in 1.5 seconds ... Buckeye I want to see your Shamans gear

just ran a WSG on Seimicìty @ Aerie Peak - Community - World of Warcraft .
yeah, 330s, ~650 crits. 50-100 riptide ticks... with no BOAs

so... 700 in 1 gcd. not too far off.

 

[The Saint]

It took at least 6 months to convince lil, foremans gloves were BiS for hunters. Don't bother. It'll take you just as long, then she'll say she already knew.

Some people will touch that fire even if you tell em it's hot.

 

[Lil]

There my posts are gone. I'm wrong. Idk how to play my hunt or use my spells. I can burst 2k dmg in 1.5 seconds. Having circle jerk healing games with 15 healers for 20 minutes will be good for this bracket and will improve the brackets overall skill.

Idk why I try to even have a serious conversation with anyone on this site.. Oh well atleast my Sunday was amusing haha

 

[Buckeye]

Congrats to everyone who argued with my (admittedly high) numbers for missing the point, which was that it's impossible for healers to heal through hunter and rogue (70% of f2p dps? Fair estimate?) burst.

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[Brov]

In a 1v1 situation, a BiS f2p rogue should never be able to beat a BiS healer with half a brain. Hunters on the other hand might have an easier time.

 

[Mesikämmen]

In a 1v1 situation, a BiS f2p rogue should never be able to beat a BiS healer with half a brain. Hunters on the other hand might have an easier time.

zerker ambush - torrent - muti - envenom - ded

hue

 

[The Saint]

There my posts are gone. I'm wrong. Idk how to play my hunt or use my spells. I can burst 2k dmg in 1.5 seconds. Having circle jerk healing games with 15 healers for 20 minutes will be good for this bracket and will improve the brackets overall skill.

Idk why I try to even have a serious conversation with anyone on this site.. Oh well atleast my Sunday was amusing haha

But you're not having a conversation with us, you're trying to dictate.

Your circle jerk healing bit I could sorta agree with. But it actually is the same with dps ATM. At least when healing was OP you had to use a little bit of team work and CC stuff, there's not much you can do when you go 2k-0 hp in like 2 seconds.

Invest some time in another class and see how you feel when hunters and rogues, in int gear are just as viable as you.

 

[The Saint]

zerker ambush - torrent - muti - envenom - ded

hue

And if you live through that you still gotta fake the kick...