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[Inkobah]

I'm going to start a 20 p2p guild on horde-side. This guild will have BoA helms available to those that grind the rep with the guild. Will this solve the QQ about the faction imbalance, 24s, and eye patch a bit at least?



-Ink

 

[Hardc0re]

I'm going to start a 20 p2p guild on horde-side. This guild will have BoA helms available to those that grind the rep with the guild. Will this solve the QQ about the faction imbalance, 24s, and eye patch a bit at least?



-Ink

Yes, but then they'll starting QQing about the helm. Or are you thinking that people will actually blame a loss on themselves?

 

[C O T U S]

here is a list of alliance-only items at 20: Items - World of Warcraft



here is a list of horde-only items at 20: Items - World of Warcraft



it took me less than 30 seconds to do these searches



now judge for yourself who has better items. based on, you know, empirical evidence

 

[Inkobah]

I just removed the helm from the equation for any 20 p2p player that wants to join me. I agree that Horde gear is slightly less powerful overall, but it is also true that some Horde gear is better in some cases. The fortunate thing is that most slots will be BoA gear once the bracket matures a bit, which is the same obviously.



-Ink

 

[thurghul]

I just removed the helm from the equation for any 20 p2p player that wants to join me. I agree that Horde gear is slightly less powerful overall, but it is also true that some Horde gear is better in some cases. The fortunate thing is that most slots will be BoA gear once the bracket matures a bit, which is the same obviously.



-Ink

I agree with ya on this.............. It makes that road to the BOA gear a lot more brutal on the Horde side though!

 

[allahkazam]

when the BoA legs come out (if they ever do) most of the gear QQ will go away.

 

[roudy]

I see what you did there. Apparently everyone else missed your joke. But you are exactly right in how a lot of the people's logic is working with this whole bracket. As I said earlier you don't solve a problem by creating a new problem...you just plain solve the first problem.



-Ink

hey someone actually got what i was saying

 

[roudy]

yeah because the fact that it takes horde queueing with multiple 24s to WIN a game means alliance needs more to steamroll 100% of the time and uphold the status quo.

so what your saying is the good players went alliance and horde needs a 4 level crutch to win a game , dont worry though any game i play in the alliance is handicapped, cuz im bad

 

[allahkazam]

so what your saying is the good players went alliance and horde needs a 4 level crutch to win a game , dont worry though any game i play in the alliance is handicapped, cuz im bad

i'm saying that alliance has more twinks that get better quest gear and have nothing but human paladins/rogues/hunters/priests in many games. i've done a ton of games and seen 1500 HP alliance farming 500 HP horde plenty. i'm really doing my best to help out on all fronts, going so far as to help f2p players of the opposite faction i play get AGM a few times a day on AP and trying to get less people on the official forums to roll 24s xp off, but if you want to get shitty with me about it I can just as easily stop caring and shit up the bracket more than it already is.

 

[roudy]

i'm saying that alliance has more twinks that get better quest gear and have nothing but human paladins/rogues/hunters/priests in many games. i've done a ton of games and seen 1500 HP alliance farming 500 HP horde plenty. i'm really doing my best to help out on all fronts, going so far as to help f2p players of the opposite faction i play get AGM a few times a day on AP and trying to get less people on the official forums to roll 24s xp off, but if you want to get shitty with me about it I can just as easily stop caring and shit up the bracket more than it already is.

hey so could i, i play a warrior at lvl 20, my profession(jc) is a bit over the 100 cap from making things at that level but i dont use anything created over lvl 100, the only enchant i used that isnt f2p available is 2stats to chest....i just dont understand why people cant play the faction/race they want without 50 other people bitching there op. i dont care if you play a fully twinked 24, have fun rolling people like the bad twinks did back pre xp off switch

 

[Keep]

I'm going to start a 20 p2p guild on horde-side. This guild will have BoA helms available to those that grind the rep with the guild. Will this solve the QQ about the faction imbalance, 24s, and eye patch a bit at least?



-Ink

What server? AP?

 

[Rivfader]

horde does not have better caster items than alliance at 20. riot stick by itself (SAME QUEST AS EYE PATCH LOLOLOLOLOL) is better than all the other horde-only caster items put together.



please stop spreading these retarded lies. 25 seconds of research on wowhead is enough to prove this kind of garbage false.



you're not doing anybody any favors by trying to cloak the bracket-ruining faction imbalance in blatant mistruths that even the dumbest of players can see through. and don't think i'm picking on you, because i've seen plenty of people on this forum talk about the "better horde caster items". it's a disingenuous lie when you say it, it's a disingenuous lie when they say it, and it's just silly.

You do realize that dignified headmaster's charge is better than riot stick and obtainable by f2ps right?

here is a list of alliance-only items at 20: Items - World of Warcraft



here is a list of horde-only items at 20: Items - World of Warcraft



it took me less than 30 seconds to do these searches



now judge for yourself who has better items. based on, you know, empirical evidence

many of these items are actually available to both factions. Alliance has 3 slots that are BiS for physical dps and none that are BiS for caster. horde has 4 slots that are BiS for casters and 1 that is BiS for str users.



Edit: leather using casters horde actually has 6 items that are BiS, that is fairly substantial when you realize that resto shamans are probably the strongest healers in the bracket atm.

 

[C O T U S]

You do realize that dignified headmaster's charge is better than riot stick and obtainable by f2ps right?

yeah dude, because BOA gear that costs 3500 honor on a faction that loses every single pub BG is relevant to this discussion

 

[Rivfader]

yeah dude, because BOA gear that costs 3500 honor on a faction that loses every single pub BG is relevant to this discussion

Of course it is, BiS is BiS.

 

[yasueh]

Better caster items mean nothing when you have to sacrifice those stats somewhere else to get hit capped.



If you don't consider hit to be the most important DPS stat bar none, you don't know the first thing about WoW.

 

[l30t53dd6p]

yeah dude, because BOA gear that costs 3500 honor on a faction that loses every single pub BG is relevant to this discussion

Its actually 3500 jp's not honor for dignified headmaster's charge, so it's over 5k honor. But geesh, that you have to QQ about this. Do you care so much about getting boa's. So it takes some more time for horde, so what?

 

[Rivfader]

Better caster items mean nothing when you have to sacrifice those stats somewhere else to get hit capped.



If you don't consider hit to be the most important DPS stat bar none, you don't know the first thing about WoW.

Horde has the two best pieces for casters to pick up hit on. Thank you for further illustrating my point

 

[Robertx jenkins]

Mucka MAD BOYS...

 

[allahkazam]

Horde has the two best pieces for casters to pick up hit on. Thank you for further illustrating my point

the eye patch is worn by anyone who can on alliance. i've seen plenty of casters with it on. the fact that it's leather and has agil means nothing because it's still BiS for f2p players. regardless of spec.

 

[Jdoring]

The Shield is BiS to Shamans and Holy Pallies, the Staff is BiS to any caster that is hit capped without a different staff, and ok, a tank would take the eyepatch over that crappy ring... but regardless, you say its BiS for every class/spec besides clothies annnd its not...