The Current state of 19 twinking...

It could be the final nail in the coffin though mEjt.

Well for anyone with half a brain

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honest...
 
funding isnt really worth it anymore with BoAs being so crucial and the ability to cross realm que.
as for mochas "home server theory" also kinda redundant as a lot of realms are merged together so whatever server you're on people are going to see your twink. just dueling in goldshire should cause a lot of exposure on many realms not just your home.

it would be nice to have guilds spread out like the old days.. but people feel less and less inclined to take that leadership position i suppose.
even with servers with horde and alliance on both side the stuff between them is usually restricted to wargames

I don't remember "BoA" being THAT crucial. I mean, don't get me wrong, BiS is still a BiS, but it doesn't make it that CRUCIAL for casual players nor to grow a 19 twink community. Yes, casual players makes up for the majority of WoW twinks - and those are the ones who will most likely get funded. You need the good and the bad (and the ugly). But that's not what's in question.

Regarding the cross-realm queue, back in 3.3.5s it was already possible to cross-queue, but people were still looking and transfering for Dreanor, on a daily basis. Why? Because it had the best H/A guild, the best players, and the best environment.

But I do agree with you: people should take in the lidership role. But well...
 
You guys will be fine. You have alot of leadership in that bracket. I solely organize the 20-24 bracket. So I know if you guys can brainstorm u can accomplish anything.


i can only do the things I've done because I'm a product of the 19 bracket. I'm proud to say that. :)
 
yes u are correct that is why we need to take preemptive measures to ensure the twinks survival until skirmish comes out

Skirmishes are never coming back. If Blizzard planned on bringing them back, they would have spent the hour's worth of coding it would take to turn on the Skirmishes NPCs and put them back in the main cities.

As it stands, the Wargames feature is their new pride and joy when it comes to 'practice' pvp. At best, they might add a random queue feature to Wargames and/or enable cross realm queuing.

we cannot allow pizzas grand plan of moving the bracket to the 24 bracket occur 19s must live on

Why are you so desperate to keep 19s going? Shit bracket is long past it's expiration date.
 
Skirmishes will be back according to Holinka's tweets. But of course not the same feature as wargames and as early wow days. But should be fine to me.

It's okay if you think 19's is shit, but sorry after tried 24's / 70's / 80's / 85's twinks. Others bracket are dogshit...

I have to give a shot to 39's.
 
Why are you so desperate to keep 19s going? Shit bracket is long past it's expiration date.

19s is actually a pretty solid bracket I think. Activity is pretty consistent, thought lately has been kinda sketchy. Competition is solid too, and despite the occasional ungeared 900hp goon or soured, grizzled veteran who can't do anything but rage needlessly before AFK'ing, games are pretty fun. Still much better than 90 pvp, and no other worthwhile brackets really exist other than 24s, but everyone knows 24s is mostly a farm fest.

I have to give a shot to 39's.

I'll agree with this, 39s is probably the most fun I've ever had in a twink bracket, with 29s a very close 2nd.


TL;DR, everyone stop complaining, stop trolling TI forums, stop crying wolf about the bracket dying especially if you don't even play regularly. Get over yourselves and queue up your 19s. The bracket dies when we let it die, and I don't think we want to let that happen. I know I don't.
 
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I don't remember "BoA" being THAT crucial. I mean, don't get me wrong, BiS is still a BiS, but it doesn't make it that CRUCIAL for casual players nor to grow a 19 twink community. Yes, casual players makes up for the majority of WoW twinks - and those are the ones who will most likely get funded. You need the good and the bad (and the ugly). But that's not what's in question.

Regarding the cross-realm queue, back in 3.3.5s it was already possible to cross-queue, but people were still looking and transfering for Dreanor, on a daily basis. Why? Because it had the best H/A guild, the best players, and the best environment.

But I do agree with you: people should take in the lidership role. But well...

casual players actualyl make up less and less of the bracket now as its quite low on numbers its usually the die hard twinks queing trying to keep games alive at a semi organized time.

BoA are far more crucial than they were in wrath where you could get away with having very little or none, obviously you still can but you're going to be far less effective in a competitve mid fight.

And i'm pretty sure you couldnt cross realm bg que until a bit into cata? might be wrong

as for the draenor server thing it kinda exist on US Bleedind Hollow though the activity for the server has dropped dramatically since 2011/2012 where wargames, world pvp and duels etc use to happen all the time.


also willix threre are multiple quotes from blizz employees stating that skirmish will be coming back though not in 5.4...
 
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casual players actualyl make up less and less of the bracket now as its quite low on numbers its usually the die hard twinks queing trying to keep games alive at a semi organized time.

BoA are far more crucial than they were in wrath where you could get away with having very little or none, obviously you still can but you're going to be far less effective in a competitve mid fight.

And i'm pretty sure you couldnt cross realm bg que until a bit into cata? might be wrong

as for the draenor server thing it kinda exist on US Bleedind Hollow though the activity for the server has dropped dramatically since 2011/2012 where wargames, world pvp and duels etc use to happen all the time.


also willix threre are multiple quotes from blizz employees stating that skirmish will be coming back though not in 5.4...

Regarding the casual players - they used to be the majority of the bracket. But again, haven't logged since late-WoTLK.
Regarding the BoA - I've checked on some armories, and unless the damage has changed dramatically since 3.3.5, I don't think it will be THAT game-changing. But again, can't vouch on that, as I haven't log for a long time.

As for 3.3.5, it was the patch that introduced the cross-realm and Real ID features.

Source: Patch 3.3.5 on US Realms this week, Cataclysm Beta
 
Regarding the casual players - they used to be the majority of the bracket. But again, haven't logged since late-WoTLK.
Regarding the BoA - I've checked on some armories, and unless the damage has changed dramatically since 3.3.5, I don't think it will be THAT game-changing. But again, can't vouch on that, as I haven't log for a long time.

As for 3.3.5, it was the patch that introduced the cross-realm and Real ID features.

Source: Patch 3.3.5 on US Realms this week, Cataclysm Beta

yea the damage is insanely different from wrath so much burst compared to long fights it used to be (which were better)

and i was talking about cross realm queing i.e. inviting people to group from other servers to que bgs with which wasnt in effect when real id first came out.
 
Regarding the casual players - they used to be the majority of the bracket. But again, haven't logged since late-WoTLK.
Regarding the BoA - I've checked on some armories, and unless the damage has changed dramatically since 3.3.5, I don't think it will be THAT game-changing. But again, can't vouch on that, as I haven't log for a long time.

As for 3.3.5, it was the patch that introduced the cross-realm and Real ID features.

Source: Patch 3.3.5 on US Realms this week, Cataclysm Beta
The sp on boa weps hav always been gamechangin for casters
 

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