Talents Preview Discussion [w/ Calaculator Link]

[raziel83]

And spellsteal is nothing compared to alter time just saying

Well currently alter time can't be purged by lvl 20s. In DF shamans and priests will be falling over themselves to purge that juicy 1 min cd alter. Spell steal is probably good if there's twink priest shields to steal. Or stealing other mage shields. Spell stealing power infusion is also fun.

 

[Nutsmite]

That's kind of messed up ngl. Why fingers of frost over brain freeze? And spellsteal is nothing compared to alter time just saying

Can justify it by potentially farming 2 stacks of fingers for bigger burst. I'd personally go with both fingers and brain freeze for some fun procs build

 

[Ivo]

Well currently alter time can't be purged by lvl 20s. In DF shamans and priests will be falling over themselves to purge that juicy 1 min cd alter. Spell steal is probably good if there's twink priest shields to steal. Or stealing other mage shields. Spell stealing power infusion is also fun.

Sheep can be dispelled too but people still use it

Can justify it by potentially farming 2 stacks of fingers for bigger burst. I'd personally go with both fingers and brain freeze for some fun procs build

Can't do that unless you drop winter's chill. Brain freeze procs twice as often and in combination with winter's chill gives 3 big ice lances. Not to mention the 50% dmg increase to flurry makes it hit harder than 2 frostbolts maybe even 3.

 

[raziel83]

Sheep can be dispelled too but people still use it

Sure but sheep doesn't have a 1 min cd.

 

[Ivo]

Are you really saying alter time isn't worth it?

 

[raziel83]

Are you really saying alter time isn't worth it?

It's worth it but in a bracket with purge and dispel I'd personally have more fun with slow + spell steal.

 

[Ivo]

I see the troll but for those who don't - get alter time

 

[icehawk]

https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/67427-change-talents-anywhere-in-dragonflight/

This is great news. I’m glad they r doing this - will make it easy to switch between PvP & PvE specs.

 

[Chops]

Arms lost sudden death

yea, these changes kinda hurt. Arms *now* looks like its DPS rotation is gonna be a lot like MOP era F2P arms, just without rend. Stack to big MS, then just rage dump MS/Slam/Slam/Slam/Slam and hope its enough.

Which would have been fine! Having both bolt and fear to set up kills would have been great. And yet.

Oh well, the good news is noone else is gonna play arms, so my hipster cred remains intact

 

[Nutsmite]

yea, these changes kinda hurt. Arms *now* looks like its DPS rotation is gonna be a lot like MOP era F2P arms, just without rend. Stack to big MS, then just rage dump MS/Slam/Slam/Slam/Slam and hope its enough.

Which would have been fine! Having both bolt and fear to set up kills would have been great. And yet.

Oh well, the good news is noone else is gonna play arms, so my hipster cred remains intact

I was actually hyped for fervor of battle and now they took it away. Yeah rotation-wise arms looks dull but there are still some strong defensives/utility skills from core warrior, so strong in fact that you may lose your hipster spec licence

 

[Chops]

so strong in fact that you may lose your hipster spec licence

shhhh I'm hoping people will overlook shattering throw as they complain about Stormbolt.

 

[Bimlo]

SMF?

I think you go double Raging Blow over the 12% increase for SMF, plus you pick up the Enrage buff. Tough calls though.

 

[mirrorbender]

On live shattering throw is a 1.5 sec cast with a 3 minute cooldown. If it stays the way it is on the talent tree page (instant cast, 45 sec cooldown), it'll be pretty poggers.

 

[Chops]

On live shattering throw is a 1.5 sec cast with a 3 minute cooldown. If it stays the way it is on the talent tree page (instant cast, 45 sec cooldown), it'll be pretty poggers.

yea but its also missing the "removes immunities" part so...

 

[Nutsmite]

yea but its also missing the "removes immunities" part so...

Still has the big dmg increase on absorbs tho. Cant wait to see some warriors owning themselves with bursting the paladin's barrier. I can imagine it can pop pretty hard on some mastery stacked pal with full str gems

 

[Chops]

Cant wait to see some warriors owning themselves with bursting the paladin's barrier

Isnt the range of the explosion 8 yards? gonna be a big dumb warrior that kills themselves with that.

(me. Im the big dumb warrior)

 

[Nutsmite]

Isnt the range of the explosion 8 yards? gonna be a big dumb warrior that kills themselves with that.

(me. Im the big dumb warrior)

Yeah range is small but maybe that one dummy warrior will act faster then think and just use throw as soon as he sees the absorb shield especially if it stays as instant cast

 

[toskosa]

excited for the next talent tree to drop :O Excited for the pre patch ptr when it comes around...hopefully soon

 

[Warglave]

excited for the next talent tree to drop

I'm afraid to even look knowing that it will get to a point that is awesome.... and then be obliterated into lameness by launch.

 

[Dragpz]

I'm afraid to even look knowing that it will get to a point that is awesome.... and then be obliterated into lameness by launch.

Yeah, personally wouldn't get too excited just yet, it's probably gonna look closer to what we have now, give or take a few abilities