EU+US Should I bother making a 101?
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Mythe
Veteran
No I don't care about that. I would make it because I like making OP characters. And I don't want to if they get nerfed heavily.
mczizegg
Grandfathered
A lot of players and myself played 101 with fun, joy and put a lot of gold and time in it so your point isnt right
jwl
FC - Pagle
I believe this is true.
Tonkks
Tônks
The only truth is that no one really knows. They could be viable next expansion. If dungeons still scale, 101s will likely still be overtuned even after a stat squish.
I personally will not be making a 101 because it is too close to the expansion. They may be viable, but they may not. A 101 right now is a big risk. To make one that has good gear will cost you millions of gold. To me, that is not worth the risk of being obsolete in a few months.
I personally will not be making a 101 because it is too close to the expansion. They may be viable, but they may not. A 101 right now is a big risk. To make one that has good gear will cost you millions of gold. To me, that is not worth the risk of being obsolete in a few months.
Hiroitchi
Grandfathered
I agree with what @mczizegg said. I can safely say I am one of those players. I did however sell runs till it became over saturated with people trying to do the same. Now I see ilvl 950+ toons doing the same, so I'm just doing it for free while I make the attempt to trait 29. I know its futile, but I'm having fun with it.
However OP, imho, I'd say it'll be fun to twink a toon out decently since 840 level 101 BoE prices are dropping, but compared to alot of the guys that have been around since the beginning you wont be as powerful as them. Good luck with whatever you choose.
Kageroo
Legend
What about 19/29 Survival hunter? I heard they are pretty OP.
Mythe
Veteran
Due to the class right? Not the gear or anything..
Anonymous
Guest
If you want FUN (power and or speed) then you still have the time to have fun before it potentially get nerfed. Maybe you can get some gold but don't ask me I'm not very used to make gold with 101. Party's not over yet
Blackberryy
TBC Classic
Or you can play 70
Veechard
Legend
This is the truth. Your looking at 4 months of solid run selling/AP farming. You could easily make back the one million TOPS you spent gearing up to par, and millions more.
ohti
Guest
if you want one for the idea of making gold mayb a lil too late business boutta slow down to pretty much nothing
but 101s are fun
but 101s are fun
Anonymous
Guest
Also due to the mage tower artefact being removed I think, people will probably want to level 100-110 their alt very fast so they will want to buy 101 boosts.
moyo
Veteran
I made a 101 maybe a month ago. It's cost me about 600k so far and it's not quite half-geared with 840-ish gear. I did it for the fun factor after watching a bunch of 101 world pvp montage videos on youtube. Even half geared, it's pretty fun. That said...
There are 3 down-sides for me personally. The first is, one spec choice. Since you can't get your 2nd artifact weapon quest until 102, you're locked into a single spec. I chose survival hunter and I do enjoy it but I'd like to play with mm, too. Unless I level to 102, which encroaches on the min/max of 101, or unless I level another hunter to 101... I'm 'stuck' with my first spec choice.
With that first point in mind, there's the cost factor. Even just about half-geared in 840-ish gear, I've spent about 600k on gear so far. For some that might not be a big deal but for me, it was literally all the gold I could cobble together, and then a wow-token-from-real-money besides. I'm not a gold farmer and I've no desire to be.
The third down-side for me is the artifact power (AP) grind. Yes, I read about it beforehand so I wasn't completely uninformed. But, I allowed myself to minimize just how much work that grind would be in terms of a time sink. So, now, I find myself not even playing the 101 because every time I log into it, I feel like I 'should' be grinding AP when what I really want to do is just mess around with it and have fun.
All that said, if I had a chance to do it differently, I'd choose something other than 101. Between the freedom to change spec's, the significantly reduced cost factor, and the complete absence of an AP grind, I'm considering a different level to twink.
There are 3 down-sides for me personally. The first is, one spec choice. Since you can't get your 2nd artifact weapon quest until 102, you're locked into a single spec. I chose survival hunter and I do enjoy it but I'd like to play with mm, too. Unless I level to 102, which encroaches on the min/max of 101, or unless I level another hunter to 101... I'm 'stuck' with my first spec choice.
With that first point in mind, there's the cost factor. Even just about half-geared in 840-ish gear, I've spent about 600k on gear so far. For some that might not be a big deal but for me, it was literally all the gold I could cobble together, and then a wow-token-from-real-money besides. I'm not a gold farmer and I've no desire to be.
The third down-side for me is the artifact power (AP) grind. Yes, I read about it beforehand so I wasn't completely uninformed. But, I allowed myself to minimize just how much work that grind would be in terms of a time sink. So, now, I find myself not even playing the 101 because every time I log into it, I feel like I 'should' be grinding AP when what I really want to do is just mess around with it and have fun.
All that said, if I had a chance to do it differently, I'd choose something other than 101. Between the freedom to change spec's, the significantly reduced cost factor, and the complete absence of an AP grind, I'm considering a different level to twink.
Mordolohoco
Veteran
It's quite simple. Which category do you belong to?
A: I am bored with the game, but I got lots of money and want to have some fun.
B: I am quite busy with raiding and I'm trying to make some money on the side.
If you're a B, then don't bother! You'll need to spend ~1 million gold for a decent 101 toon. Depending on your server, your auction house attendance, and patience maybe half of that. If you wanna be really well equipped, then at least(!) twice of that. Up to you!
Now let's say you charge 2.5k gold for a dungeon run and you have 4 customers, then that's 10k per run. So we're talking about at least 100 runs to get back your investment of said 1 million gold. (Mind you: NOT counting the time to level the toon.)
One Dungeon takes about 10 minutes. Yes, YOU could be faster, but realistically with 4 semi-afk dudes, that's what you're looking at. Minimum! Somebody leaves, you need to search for another customer, in the mean time another one goes afk and ... 15 minutes later you and your 4 customers are ready for the next dungeon. So that's 4 dungeons per hour. Maybe 8 if things go perfect. So let's take the median of 6 runs per hour (and that is VERY optimistic) with 4 customers, paying 2.5 gold per run. 60k gold per hour! Tops!
Go anywhere! Use your Herbalism/Mining skill! Kill mobs! Loot their stuff and sell it to an NPC or on the AH. One hour of mindless farming! It won't quite net you 60k, but: No idiots to deal with! No need for trade channel spamming. No discussions about how the price, and the promised progress, and the time it took until ... blahblahblah!
Creating/playing a 101 toon is for fun! For the process of gearing up while playing the AH. For doing something different. For some interesting whispers during/after dungeons. For your Skada Epeen. For ... well ... for pretty much anything, but not for making gold ... unless you got lots(!) of time and nerves of steel.
P.S.: Choose a class that could fit any role such as Monk or Druid. Or at least one that COULD be either healer or tank. Myself, I play a 101 Elemental Shaman and when looking for a random group, I also check the healer option. That way I get instant invites and due to my gear and the kill speed, the heals are no problem at all. Kill the boss - heal the tank and some clumsy dd after the fight with just 2-3 Healing Surges.
A: I am bored with the game, but I got lots of money and want to have some fun.
B: I am quite busy with raiding and I'm trying to make some money on the side.
If you're a B, then don't bother! You'll need to spend ~1 million gold for a decent 101 toon. Depending on your server, your auction house attendance, and patience maybe half of that. If you wanna be really well equipped, then at least(!) twice of that. Up to you!
Now let's say you charge 2.5k gold for a dungeon run and you have 4 customers, then that's 10k per run. So we're talking about at least 100 runs to get back your investment of said 1 million gold. (Mind you: NOT counting the time to level the toon.)
One Dungeon takes about 10 minutes. Yes, YOU could be faster, but realistically with 4 semi-afk dudes, that's what you're looking at. Minimum! Somebody leaves, you need to search for another customer, in the mean time another one goes afk and ... 15 minutes later you and your 4 customers are ready for the next dungeon. So that's 4 dungeons per hour. Maybe 8 if things go perfect. So let's take the median of 6 runs per hour (and that is VERY optimistic) with 4 customers, paying 2.5 gold per run. 60k gold per hour! Tops!
Go anywhere! Use your Herbalism/Mining skill! Kill mobs! Loot their stuff and sell it to an NPC or on the AH. One hour of mindless farming! It won't quite net you 60k, but: No idiots to deal with! No need for trade channel spamming. No discussions about how the price, and the promised progress, and the time it took until ... blahblahblah!
Creating/playing a 101 toon is for fun! For the process of gearing up while playing the AH. For doing something different. For some interesting whispers during/after dungeons. For your Skada Epeen. For ... well ... for pretty much anything, but not for making gold ... unless you got lots(!) of time and nerves of steel.
P.S.: Choose a class that could fit any role such as Monk or Druid. Or at least one that COULD be either healer or tank. Myself, I play a 101 Elemental Shaman and when looking for a random group, I also check the healer option. That way I get instant invites and due to my gear and the kill speed, the heals are no problem at all. Kill the boss - heal the tank and some clumsy dd after the fight with just 2-3 Healing Surges.
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