Replacing the old Code of Conduct with a New Twink Charter

Why have a CoC when moderation decisions are publicly explained and open to appeal? This CoC has 3,583 views in >3 years.

-- If it's for members, it's mostly ignored.

-- If it's for Mods, why? They volunteered, and they were entrusted with the position, so why not give them the judgment? Myrm can demote them if neccessary.
 
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Licholas said:
If Mod decisions are all publicly explained and open to appeal, what is the need for a CoC? (This is not rhetorical.)

> If any member, new or old, needs guidelines on decency, (s)he'll eventually see moderation and reform or face more moderation. Go Mods!

>>>> If any Mod goes rogue, they'll eventually see a demotion or quit / AFK. Go [MENTION=5141]Myrm[/MENTION] and Mods!


> Many Mods seem to rely on and point to the Report option, so the icon could be made more visible.
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Hey Lich. How's life?
 
Licholas said:
this is OT but life's really good. refer to my signature for the rest :)
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I had to OT .-. It's not often I see a name from Vashj anymore.
 
Licholas said:
This CoC has 3,583 views in >3 years. If it's for members, it's mostly ignored.

If it's for Mods, why? They volunteered, and they were entrusted with the position, so why not give them the judgment?
Public + open to appeal
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Welcome back muahaha
 
I really do like Yde's first draft. I think it's important to have a significant amount of grey area because the fact of the matter is most infractions are based entirely on context. For example, the issue with profanity. I like to curse. I think cursing can help add emphasis and communicate passion. Say someone posts a video of a really intense last second win in the gulch. I would probably comment "Holy shit! That last second return was clutch as fuck!! Great match fellas!" and I don't think I should be banned for that. But if someone were to use profanity to incessantly berate another member of the community - that could be infraction-worthy. So, imo, putting an outright black and white ban on profanity, as with other things, is unrealistic.

Once the CoC has been decided upon, I have this to say with regard to avoiding further messes and disgruntled community members: The most important characteristics of the CoC and its implementation are transparency and accountability. Whenever a warning/infraction has been given, there should be clear and concise reasoning from the responsible mod - and this reasoning should be made public***. This way if a community member feels they have been unjustly punished, they can cite previous bans/infractions and their context to argue their case - just like lawyers do in U.S. courts. This will force targeted members of the community to build a factual argument rather than relying on the oh so typical "this mod has a vendetta against me QQ". For Christ's sake they might actually have a vendetta against you - now just prove it! If there is overwhelming evidence and support from the community that a mod acted unjustly or irrationally, an appeal should be considered and the mod scolded. At the end of the day we just need the mods to be accountable for their decisions, and then, hopefully, the community members will show more respect and be accountable themselves.

I think it was Pvv who said this earlier, or maybe Kekki, but the Veteran e-peen bullying of new members needs to stop. It's mind-boggling how unwelcoming, rude, and downright sinister some of our elder community members are to the new guys. I've said this before and I'll say it again: we were all stupid back-peddaling noobs at one point who didn't know the first thing about the meta. Give the new guys a fucking break. Older guys should be held accountable to a higher tier of maturity and professionalism in their posts. Imo, this kind of behavior should be considered a direct threat to Twinkinfo considering that it literally drives people away from our forum and brackets. As was previously stated, we need to do our best in distinguishing this kind of behavior from playful banter and jabs amongst friends and competitors. I know this is hard. But, if we were to adopt the transparency and accountability system I explained above, it's possible. For example, every now and then I enjoy poking fun at HB and other old friends with a smartass insult or profanity. A mod who doesn't know HB and I go way back might consider this warning or infraction worthy. If the mod goes through with it, so what? The reasoning would be posted, HB and I would both explain the situation, and the mistake quickly corrected. No big deal. Believe it or not, lots of people on this site are good friends, and playful banter can add flavour and fun to an otherwise dull thread.

TL;DR Transparency and accountability among the leadership will garner respect and accountability from those being lead.

*** I believe we already have a system like this for the infrequent instances of bans and permabans. All I'm suggesting is taking it a step further to low-level issues. After all, the vast majority of the agitation felt from community members results from arguments over minor infractions.

P.S. Adderall is a hell of a drug.
P.P.S. Why am I not studying for my finance exam in 1 hour. /facepalm
 
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Yde said:
I love you. Good luck on your exam!

P.S.: Can I steal your words if I write a second draft?
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Absolutely! <3
 
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Any word on this.....???????????????????????????????????????????


I think it would be fair to have a reasonable decision be made within the next few days... Especially with these fundraisers popping up... Asking for donations when an entire community is still awaiting decisions on the CoC... This should have been a priority and solved as soon as possible...
 
Meh.
 
Something needs to be done about all these advertising spammers that are just shitting all over this site lately, between the Babaji's and Black Magic specialist's there's at least a page of thread spam 2 - 3 times a day now. Will anything be done about this any time soon? Or will mods have to go over banning 2 - 3 new accounts daily as well as deleting all their stupid threads?
 
Trialkiller said:
Something needs to be done about all these advertising spammers that are just shitting all over this site lately, between the Babaji's and Black Magic specialist's there's at least a page of thread spam 2 - 3 times a day now. Will anything be done about this any time soon? Or will mods have to go over banning 2 - 3 new accounts daily as well as deleting all their stupid threads?
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For a while, Shane had activated something on the site that required new users to be approved by an admin before they could post. This ended up being a pain for both the staff and the legitimate new users, but maybe something like this needs to be considered again?
 
Laurasia said:
For a while, Shane had activated something on the site that required new users to be approved by an admin before they could post. This ended up being a pain for both the staff and the legitimate new users, but maybe something like this needs to be considered again?
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If you're asking me I say absolutely, unless the moderator's really just don't care and are okay with deleting the 10+ threads each of these bots post.
 
Patrol said:
Why have a CoC when moderation decisions are publicly explained and open to appeal? This CoC has 3,583 views in >3 years.

-- If it's for members, it's mostly ignored.

-- If it's for Mods, why? They volunteered, and they were entrusted with the position, so why not give them the judgment? Myrm can demote them if neccessary.
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Bump because I care and because I was late to the discussion, so I haven't seen any feedback.
Also, the Global clutter could be cut.
 
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