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Wih said:
High-level things to solo on a hit-stacked bdruid? That give you something useful?


My druid has:
WBFH (not going to do Engi for the goggles)
brilliant necklace
slime pads
cloak of the elder/ivycloth of spirit +5 (seems unlikely the extra 1spirit is worth it)
starsight tunic
MtB w/ +1 spririt enchant
GSoJ
serpentis gloves/magefist gloves
i think i got rid of the spirit belt I had. And the satchel belt of the moon refuses to drop
whichever BFD cloth pants have 5spirit (leech pants?)
Sandals of Sacrifice
Deep Fathom Ring
can go get Advisor's Ring and RoPerfection


so, I think that's 68hit. 72 if I can ever get the Moon belt


oh, and 5 spirit from a scroll
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+6 spirit from bufffood!

Link to an ele-shaman in my sig. Edit: I AM in hitgear atm! But I currently max out at 61hit (wc ring's eluding me for over 20 runs now) - this is btw still not spellhit capped, still needs the extra 3 hit of the wc ring compared to DPR only THEN am I gonna be hitcapped.
 
Right food buff too, forgot that. And forgot about 6hit from DwB (one of the few things I haven't found yet).


So are there any hi-lvl mobs/bosses to go after who drop . . . i dunno, a pet? or give you some useless rep? I'd like to put all that hit to use, but not just for pointless killing.
 
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Fujin0 said:
(wc ring's eluding me for over 20 runs now).
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Not sure if you've noticed, but dung bosses tend to drop the same stuff over and over for a while - so if you do WC and it doesn't drop, don't bother trying for a bit. If it does drop and you lose the roll, do WC again immediately.
 
. . . 92 hit is the max possible?

goggles 4
brilliant neck 2
slime pads 4
ivycloak 5 (maybe there is a higher spirit version, havne't checked)
starsight 10
DwB w/ench 7
GSoJ 7
serp gloves 4
moon belt 5
leech pants 5
ivy boots 6
deep ring 6
advi ring 6
RoPerf 10
scroll 5
food 6
 
Wih said:
. . . 92 hit is the max possible?
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There's also 4 spirit from Cooking Fire.


Wih said:
Not sure if you've noticed, but dung bosses tend to drop the same stuff over and over for a while - so if you do WC and it doesn't drop, don't bother trying for a bit. If it does drop and you lose the roll, do WC again immediately.
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I have absolutely not seen this happening. At all.


Wih said:
Right food buff too, forgot that. And forgot about 6hit from DwB (one of the few things I haven't found yet).

So are there any hi-lvl mobs/bosses to go after who drop . . . i dunno, a pet? or give you some useless rep? I'd like to put all that hit to use, but not just for pointless killing.
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If you get into the hit-curve, you'll see that at some point, you just won't be able to hit anymore: 6% for same lvl, 9% for 1 lvl above, 12% for 2, 15% for 3, 26% (yes, TWENTYSIX percent MISS chance) for 4 lvls above.

I don't know about the exact iterations after that, but let's assume it's something around 6%, that makes you hit only 50% of your spells on a target 8 lvls above you (without your hitrating). After a certain point (let's say max hit rating you can get is ~38% assuming I have 33.04% hit with 61 hit) you won't be able to hit any mob. Now I'll do a bit math and mindwandering (Keep in mind, that I don't know if the hit iteration IS 6% or not).

26% hit rating is needed to cap vs a lvl 24, means 38% hit is needed to cap against a lvl 26, which is also our cap on how much hit we can get.
After that you have 100 / 6 = 19.99(9) steps of iteration on the hit curve which means that you won't be able to hit any mob level 26+19.9 (=20) or higher with our defined cap on the amount of hit rating we can get.

Well, now that we have a fixed cap, let's make it realistic: do you want the fights to take you 10s of minutes?

You talk about things you could possibly farm. I'll give you an example: Noxious Whelps in Feralas drop Tiny Emerald Whelpling with a 0.09% dropchance. These Whelps are lvl 35 with 2440hp (both dropchance and hp according to wowhead).

Lvl 35 means, you'll miss 66% of your spells if you are on our fixed cap of 38% hitrating. Then taking into consideration that, for all the hit we acquire, we sacrifice a lot of stam and int (spellpower and spellcrit that is) makes the fights even more obnoxious because you hit less powerful and you heal less powerful. 2440hp is a lot if you miss 66% of your spells and they hit for 150s as an elemental shaman (probably different for a balance druid).

All of that for a tiny chance on a super rare pet (even by today's standards)? You'll have to farm them for weeks and it's not gonna be joyful.



tl;dr It's not worth it.
 
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Wih said:
. . . 92 hit is the max possible?

goggles 4
brilliant neck 2
slime pads 4
ivycloak 5 (maybe there is a higher spirit version, havne't checked)
starsight 10
DwB w/ench 7
GSoJ 7
serp gloves 4
moon belt 5
leech pants 5
ivy boots 6
deep ring 6
advi ring 6
RoPerf 10
scroll 5
food 6
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I dug into this a bit more:

For MAX hit as a boomkin, you should use WSG-Vendor Staff (or the alliance counterpart with the same stats) as it grants 1 more hit, than GSoJ. As an elemental shaman you'd use Shield of the Stockades+Blackfathom Mace (both of these are alliance only, damn alliance!) which also grants 1 more hit than GSoJ.

For the pants: Hogger's Trousers nothing else, 3 hit > Darkweave Breeches when we're this far in.

Boots: Nimbus Boots are slightly better than Ivyboots for the 3 extra int (alliance only...)

Which would max out at 92+4+4 makes exactly 100hit attainable by an elemental shaman/balance druid in max hit gear while near a Cooking Fire, with the 6/6 food and a Scroll of Spirit II on.

Edit: just realized that, with Skillpatch instead of Goggles (if we're talking alliance) you could even get 4 more hit.


This also does not include any buff like Mistletoes which grant an additional 20 spirit.
 
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Fujin0 said:
I dug into this a bit more:

For MAX hit as a boomkin, you should use WSG-Vendor Staff (or the alliance counterpart with the same stats) as it grants 1 more hit, than GSoJ. As an elemental shaman you'd use Shield of the Stockades+Blackfathom Mace (both of these are alliance only, damn alliance!) which also grants 1 more hit than GSoJ.

For the pants: Hogger's Trousers nothing else, 3 hit > Darkweave Breeches when we're this far in.

Boots: Nimbus Boots are slightly better than Ivyboots for the 3 extra int (alliance only...)

Which would max out at 92+4+4 makes exactly 100hit attainable by an elemental shaman/balance druid in max hit gear while near a Cooking Fire, with the 6/6 food and a Scroll of Spirit II on.
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Cool, thanks.

I only play Horde now. Yeah, didn't think of DwBreeches, another boe I haven't found. I did think of cozy fire while I was out tonight (possibly b/c it's kind of chilly). Did not fully (still don't, actually) understand the diminishing returns of stacking hit. Yeah, understood about all the gimpiness of favoring hit that much (esp the non-42sp staff).

Man, I've thought about doing the ptr free faction change to get all that ally-only gear, but since I caught keefers it would only be good for if I respec'd to feral/guardian. But imagine if lots of Horde faction-changed to ally and then back (not sure if possible) . . . horde would win even more often. And that would be even more boring.

I'm a lone-wolf, but I thought stakcing lots of hit could be cool in a group. Others in the group wouldn't be that gimped, but would have awful hit chance. I dunno, whatever, just an idea.
 
A 28 or 29 Naga tried to gank me 2wks ago in STV. Those don't have that much hp and they don't hit very hard, but I didn't miss that much. Maybe I was just lu cky (guess so, as he did drop Razzakashishiazz (whatever) hatchling.

But yeah . . . I went to wetlands to see if I could get that red dragon pet. Killed some mobs, got bored, hearthed back to UC to camp for scrolls. Because that's so much more fun.
 
Divo said:
How does that work? I have 2 haste loom trinkets and I don't use the second. Bought it a while back. Can I sell it for full honor refund now?
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Divo said:
How does that work? I have 2 haste loom trinkets and I don't use the second. Bought it a while back. Can I sell it for full honor refund now?
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I thought of all this stuff earlier, but then didn't type it b/c it seemed pointless. Now, however, I'm tipsy and high. . . so I will type it. I realized this tactic when I rolled my 2nd or 3rd clothie caster -> once I'd get enough honor for exquisite sunderseer, I'd refund it over and over until I had 3500 honor for GSoJ (way more of an upgrayayed than sunderseer, b/c of the stam, hit, and especially SP). All that is a good idea . . . Unfortunately, it turned into a habit and I now constantly do that with even the low cost stuff like advisor's ring or whatever (used to have 18 alts, so boas took more IRL time).

Anyway, you're probably stuck w/ the 2nd haste trinket by now. No idea what class you are/what other trinkets you have, but maybe it is useful for pve? I got blessed hammer of grace before getting GSoJ and didn't refund it in time (also mogged it to Crested Scepter) . . it will prob never be useful for pvp, but I get a whopping 2 more SP w/ it and an off-hand when I run random dungs for gold and satchels.
 
CripzBlood said:
does the one in elewyn forest in the farm where u need to deliever water counts as daylie?
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If you're talking about Give Gerard a Drink then I believe the answer is no. I think it's classified as repeatable, not a daily, since (IIRC) you can complete it multiple times in the same day.
 
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