New to the 20s Twinking First Try Need Some Help

As discussed by the boys who have been farming for vanilla epics, the old silithus/burning steppes spots no longer seem to drop epics so Suns old thread is irrelevant (unless one is just curious about where a lot of the pre-squish, scaled epics came from)

@MartinD738 specifically mentions the shield in this post where it appears as though getting one to drop for our level may be impossible, re: requires a low level farmer that is too low level to enter LBRS.

@zazzyfraz speculates here that ZulFarrak might be the answer, given its history and loot characteristics

And thats where we're at currently with regard to farming epics like skullflame.
Am I misunderstanding this thread? I took it as recently farmed but is this just an old one that was scaled down as well https://xpoff.com/threads/wts-blackskull-shield-ilvl-27-clvl-18-stormscale-eu.96951/ Nvm am big dumb and just saw purple shield and assumed thought they we the same
 
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Am I misunderstanding this thread? I took it as recently farmed but is this just an old one that was scaled down as well https://xpoff.com/threads/wts-blackskull-shield-ilvl-27-clvl-18-stormscale-eu.96951/
looks like that shield was farmed via the repeatable quest in Blasted Lands. There's 3 different "tables" of vanilla epics and those "tables" all seem to have different places where they currently drop. So 1 table may be farmable in one location, while another table is farmable elsewhere.
 
Yes but Blackskulle is in a different original level bracket than the interesting epics like Blackskull and HoEtO.

looks like that shield was farmed via the repeatable quest in Blasted Lands. There's 3 different "tables" of vanilla epics and those "tables" all seem to have different places where they currently drop. So 1 table may be farmable in one location, while another table is farmable elsewhere.
Oh I got my purple shields confused, ignore me
 
does holy shield damage reflect proc weapon effects, Ele force or satyr proc?

Yes as they are classified as spells, they would be blocked.

how high of a block % can you get?

Not sure if you can get quite enough as a 20 Twink the verdict is out on that. I mentioned that you would want to be at 50%+ Mastery where it starts to feel really tanky and reliable as Block would be 60+%. Just wish there were more Mastery options but I'm sure someone will finally get it fully Min/Maxed and be able to say at some point.

Also standing in Cons at 50% Mastery would have 22.6% dmg reduction. So it's the layers of mitigation that make the build work.
 
@The Abomb

thanks for the info.

specifically my original question is. If YOU have ele force, Satyr or a damage proc weapon equipped, would the holy shield damage reflect trigger those effects against your attackers?

Brambles back in BFA used to be able to proc ele force and satyr against your attackers, but was changed in SL
 
Idk I feel like having more then 50% block is just overkill and you can put those stats into haste or vers personally.
 
@The Abomb

thanks for the info.

specifically my original question is. If YOU have ele force, Satyr or a damage proc weapon equipped, would the holy shield damage reflect trigger those effects against your attackers?

Brambles back in BFA used to be able to proc ele force and satyr against your attackers, but was changed in SL
Haven't tested as crusader is too good but I would bet yes.
 
specifically my original question is. If YOU have ele force, Satyr or a damage proc weapon equipped, would the holy shield damage reflect trigger those effects against your attackers?

Ahhh okay. Well Holy Shield is considered an attack. So they do apply trinket effects and dots to your target. In BFA it would apply gushing wounds etc. So it should proc Ele force or anything else.


Idk I feel like having more then 50% block is just overkill and you can put those stats into haste or vers personally.

Well it's the opposite. Just like having over 50% dodge or damage reduction has exponential gains. Each point over 50% is more effective than the last. There is no downside considering it also increase damage reduction in Cons and also attack power.

If you could achieve Block cap you would be nigh-immortal. Some really funky things happen around there and mentioned a few instance of it in the thread.
 
So yesterday I saw a warrior with +5 str +6 stam gems in his weapon. I never heard or seen these gems before. You get them from doing SoO? I'm confused and tried to look up drops from SoO but didn't see them listed at first glance and maybe info not up to date after the squish etc. Anyone got info on these gems?
 
So yesterday I saw a warrior with +5 str +6 stam gems in his weapon. I never heard or seen these gems before. You get them from doing SoO? I'm confused and tried to look up drops from SoO but didn't see them listed at first glance and maybe info not up to date after the squish etc. Anyone got info on these gems?
theyre from tbc heroics. put them in SoO heirlooms. profit. dont have SoO heirlooms? oh well. Better luck next decade.
 
theyre from tbc heroics. put them in SoO heirlooms. profit. dont have SoO heirlooms? oh well. Better luck next decade.

Hmmm interesting so these gems can only be used in the SoO heirlooms? I guess the item level on the gem is too high to put them in every slot? Do the actual gems drop from TBC heroics?

PS- Kinda crappy you can't get the SoO heirlooms anymore is there a reason why?
 
Hmmm interesting so these gems can only be used in the SoO heirlooms? I guess the item level on the gem is too high to put them in every slot? Do the actual gems drop from TBC heroics?
That and 20s cant get into heroics to acquire the gems.
PS- Kinda crappy you can't get the SoO heirlooms anymore is there a reason why?
games change over time and gear that might have once been available becomes unavailable.
 
Hmmm interesting so these gems can only be used in the SoO heirlooms? I guess the item level on the gem is too high to put them in every slot? Do the actual gems drop from TBC heroics?

PS- Kinda crappy you can't get the SoO heirlooms anymore is there a reason why?
They drop in shattered halls heroic. So you can only get them at level 30+. So at 20 only heirlooms can have them since heirlooms can be mailed to a 20. Only SoO heirlooms have gem slots.
 
So you can only get them at level 30+.

What's interesting is these gems are 100% BiS at max level by a large margin. It's actually kinda sad there aren't many gem options at max level anymore. No stam gems either. So +5 main stat +6 stam is by far a BiS gem.
 
What's interesting is these gems are 100% BiS at max level by a large margin. It's actually kinda sad there aren't many gem options at max level anymore. No stam gems either. So +5 main stat +6 stam is by far a BiS gem.
I have no idea what gems max level uses but its possible they dont allow low level gems in high level gear.
 
I have no idea what gems max level uses

Max level is so nerfed in SL these days one of the reasons I turned to Twinks. Hardly any sockets down to 6 on gear. The only gems now are +16 secondary stat. There are rare old main stat gems ppl were using from BFA that are + 6 str can only wear 1.

So being able to wear multiple +5 str +6 stam is BiS.

but its possible they dont allow low level gems in high level gear.

Just tried on my max pally the gem dropped off first boss put it in his neck.
 
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Max level is so nerfed in SL these days one of the reasons I turned to Twinks. Hardly any sockets down to 6 on gear. The only gems now are +16 secondary stat. There are rare old main stat gems ppl were using from BFA that are + 6 str can only wear 1.

So being able to wear multiple +5 str +6 stam is BiS.



Just tried on my max pally the gem dropped off first boss put it in his neck.
Gz they will probably be nerfed soon then
 
Yea that's what I'll do to tinker and take suggestions here.

I do wish there was anything Twink related on Darkspear there is nothing. No BoE, No dragonlings, Nada. Gotta farm everything.
I’m not sure what kind of progress you have made but I do know a few die hard Darkspear twinks that might be able to help you out with some of these tasks you have come across during your journey. Add me on discord (Benny#1238) and i’ll put you in contact with them:)
 

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