[MOP] F2P Shaman guide

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Jsu8 said:
So basically you don't appreciate the work I've done and told me I had too much help? You know this is more of a insult that a comment.
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Not an insult just pointing facts out.. This has basically been spoon fed to you and other people have put just as much work into this as you have.

You just cared about the white name (even said so) and did either the minimal you could to get it.
 
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Burping said:
One more question.
I believe that for an enhance shaman hit is really important.
Why are the Loom Shadowcraft Armor not recommended? Or a variation of Shadowcraft Shoulder+DeathDealer Breastplate or Herods Shoulder+Shadowcraft Chest?
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If you are hit capped, take the crit. And if you are ally you should be hit capped.
 
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bigdip said:
If you are hit capped, take the crit. And if you are ally you should be hit capped.
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Okay. So once hit capped for special attack such as lava/flame/earth, don't worry about increase chances for white attacks to hit?
I mean lava lash hits for like 80 and someone told me 150 crit lol
 
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Lillhunter said:
Not an insult just pointing facts out.. This has basically been spoon fed to you and other people have put just as much work into this as you have.

You just cared about the white name (even said so) and did either the minimal you could to get it.
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Again, I'm not the best Shammie in the world and yes, I make some mistakes because I'm human. I haven't seen you make a guide at all. So instead of calling other people's guide bad, make one yourself.
 
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Burping said:
Okay. So once hit capped for special attack such as lava/flame/earth, don't worry about increase chances for white attacks to hit?
I mean lava lash hits for like 80 and someone told me 150 crit lol
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Crit > Hit
 
Re: F2P Shaman guide

Lillhunter said:
Not an insult just pointing facts out.. This has basically been spoon fed to you and other people have put just as much work into this as you have.

You just cared about the white name (even said so) and did either the minimal you could to get it.
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Are you really saying that other people did the same as me? The only thing that actually was was the macros. I was scared about adding them because they might be wrong and useless in their opinion. The rest was either grammer/spelling and simple hints. Also I never said I only cared about the white name. I just asked how to get it.

I really have a feeling that you just like to troll me.....
 
Re: F2P Shaman guide

bigdip said:
Double agm is not BIS bro. If you account for even the slightest healing, the resilience from the pvp trinket gives you better effective health.
Got all the calculations and stuff right here BIS FC

Check out my shammy too, i used to use double agm but the numbers dont lie.
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Exactly your thread tells that loom shoulders and DOUBLE AGM is BEST - wtf.

"This shows you that the Loom shoulders with dual agm would be the best resilience slot build assuming all other slots are BiS."

And a note to the hit discussion. PRACTICALLY THERE IS NO HITCAP ! 6% is hitcap against level 20, but NOT against higher levels! And you will ALWAYS face level 24s!
 
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Swoops said:
The fact that you don't indicate when you got information from others significantly devalues the work that you have put into this guide.
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^ This. If you looked at other guides from here and took some general ideas of formatting and chose not to list the guide or who made the guide that would be ok. But if you take something like the video or specific text from other guides or people atleast say that they were the ones where you got the idea from.

Get rid of the LINK to BiS armories on the "PvP strategies and BIS armories" section and put the actual armories here then the first post on page 2 make that your thank you post or something.
 
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bigdip said:
Sorry about that, if you read a couple posts down you would have seen the correction. I edited the post now anyway so thanks for catching that.
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Okay, but you are talking about restos. I'm elemental and 2 agm ARE BiS for ele fc's. +2,67% resilience < 120 health. Why? This means: Only if someone puts more than 4494 damage on you (and hits you) you safe more than 120 health points. This means you probably get killed faster without agm (think of getting silenced/... so you cannot heal yourself). But it is more important to survive burst damage as fc. More health always means more time to react/cast/heal - and so a better chance to survive as you can't get oom.
 
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The hp amount where resil trinket starts becoming better then double agm is around 2.5k hp. If you are a healer then resil trinket starts becoming better around 2k. Don't believe me just wait a couple days and I will have the numbers but don't bring this argument in here. Go post on bigs thread if you'd like as that's what the thread is for
 
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Nice work. :)

Healing Surge and lolWave also give the Ancestral Vigor buff, but since Purification is a resto talent I guess it's alright to leave it under Riptide.
 
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