l30t53dd6p
OG
Just clearing this up. Weed is not legal in the Netherlands nor is it illegal. It is stuck in the grey zone between them and more favoring illegality.
maybe more 24s coming to this bracket?
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Just clearing this up. Weed is not legal in the Netherlands nor is it illegal. It is stuck in the grey zone between them and more favoring illegality.
Whatgoesup
Lost in Gnomer
Well, it's legal with certain restrictions bound to it. It's not really legal, tolerated is a better word I guess.
Daltert Moropi
Legend
... that's odd, i thought they had balance druids <_<
Franciska
Legend
Gurubashi Surfclub/Aggramar/Draenor 24's are arguably trash.
CripzBlood
Legend
lol, who are u to talk about skill, trash talker.
Ravencrest/Aggramar/Draenor 24s are normally good and better then you(average bracket player).
Franciska
Legend
To Franciska -->
It seems to me that ppl have different understandings of "good" and "good at wow pvp". In fact i knew that since i see so many suffering on these forums like they are some kind of 2k+ arena players, not talking about some that think they are R1's.
For me, someone to "learn from/discuss with/take in consideration what he is saying", is that person that did endgame PVP and not by CP capping each week at 1550-(or being boosted at 2k+). Why? Because if you play there, you realise that wow pvp is not what you thought it was when you were playing at 19/24/29/39..etc (twink brackets that is). You start to see things in another light.
A day ago saw some lvl19 bg streaming. What they did the whole game? Fighting middle till both FC's got to 10 stacks and then attacked and finally one team scored. That's how BG's are played at 19? Those are the tactics each game? Hope not, if so, 19 bracket is worse that i thought.
Was talking with some of the ppl on Spine about pvp at 20 being different that pvp at endgame, totally agree with this, but, like i said, when you get to play so much endgame pvp you start to see things different. How?
Some were criticising my moves and tactics on the videos i've posted. Saying something like wtf, sapping ppl all day long or, running like a headless chicken hitting everyone in your path and many more. It's clearly that they have no clue why i do that, why i play my lvl20 different that 90% of this bracket. And they have no clue because they see the WoW pvp at a smaller scale, the scale of 19's and 20's. (Kudos to Worst noticing where my moves and gamestyle come from)
Now going back to 24s, tell me Franciska, how can you distinguish a bad 24 from a good one? Positioning and Awareness - Yes | Other stuff - No. Why? Because they are so OP that they don't need any knowledge of the class (even a 3-4 button one), why gimped? Because the scaling of the new enchants. And even so OP, why they manage to lose games? Because they are BAD - Yes | Because they are too busy Farming - Maybe.
During one week of Cata, i've made myself a lvl 24 Rogue being so sick of 24's farming us each and every game (back then there was no scaling in BG's). After finishing that rogue, i started to farm 24's all day long and F2P healers mostly that were a threat for my team but mostly 24's. I was so damn effective with that rogue on my quest, that part of 24's started to leave bg's i was in at some point. Even more, some started QQ-ing on TI about me (see Juno0). You don't believe me? Hope someone has some decency to come here and admit that im not a liar. I felt good for the moment, but this lasted one week, then i got bored. Nothing challenging except farming other 24's all day long and see them quitting the games. I've ditched that rogue and returned to my beloved F2P one. Why?
Because i feel way better when me and my team manage to win games vs 24's or whatever and i think that's the way all ACTUAL 24's should play. Man up and play by the F2P rules if you want to talk
about "good" or "bad". But they won't do that, why? Because they chose the easy way, roflstomping the "poor f2ps" gives them juvenile erections, and not only that, it feeds their EGOS.
Also, most of those 24's we meet each day, are coming from 19's. How do i know that? Easily to spot by the attidude they have, attitude that made their beloved bracket die, a bracket that they try so hard to ressurect now. A bracket that will remain dead forevere. Why? Because of the spoiled kids with huge EGOS that killed it in the first place. Because of those that think they are above all F2P's and Gods of WoW Pvp.
But for me, most of them are just clueless sad dudes that played their whole life on a bracket with 5 spells terrain abusing and stuff. And tbh, i wont have anything against them as long as they don't troll or show off for nothing. But most of them do that and again, sad thing is they have no clue, they're like those that never left a neighborhood but they think they're kings of the world. FALSE, they're not
I did actually read that wall of text. Most people can't get me to that. Anyway, i don't care what people were at max level or some level cap during the ''Golden ages of WoW''. If you simply can't handle this bracket while you have 3.4k hp UB at 24, please do not waste my time. Please go back to your own bracket and help revive it.
But....but...19's/29's/39's/49's are dead!
Boohoo! Why don't you help people organize games here? Rolling 24's for games is stupid, because you can get those everywhere if you are P2P. This bracket isn't about seeing things in another light. Its about grieving, which is quite upsetting.
Twinking was fun at some point in TBC (Yes the TBC, considered by many as the ''Golden Age'' of WoW, but not me included). But i don't see much point for it now these days.
And i see lots of 24's complaining about this bracket and how bad it is. Nobody is keeping you here.
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Franciska
Legend
I know you answered it. I just suggested they can help pop dead brackets instead. But rolling in the F2P bracket and being a hardass about it as 24 is annoying me the most. Good thing i don't pay for it, so technically i don't lose anything except a couple minutes a day.
l30t53dd6p
OG
Achmed, you played 29s in the past. You should not speak badly about 24s at all. It makes it pretty silly knowing where your roots lie.
I don't want to join this stupid discussion though, i just wanted to post this info to clear stuff up and that you should not speak about any of this at all.
I don't want to join this stupid discussion though, i just wanted to post this info to clear stuff up and that you should not speak about any of this at all.
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Kincaide
Legend
Just generally speaking, across all the threads here, I think people need to let go of drudging up what some other person said / did / was in the past. Not only has the game changed, but people change as well. Some people know a lot more than they did, say, two years ago. Some people know a lot less. What a person once was, or once did, is kind of irrelevant. The actions they take now, the opinions they hold now, and the words they say now are the only thing we should be basing our opinions on.
Bisonpower
Legend
Didn't WWI / WW 2 start in Europe?
Minifranger
Legend
Achmed, I think you're incorrect. Get off your high horse dude, you play f2p and I don't think that your endgame experience is very relevant to this discussion.
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Franciska
Legend
You seem upset. Brackets were devided in 0-9 second digits back then (50-60 was a exception past Vanilla). There was no exp off bracket. Try better, maybe perhaps a bit harder aswell.
Can't argue with something that isn't true.
Here on TI? This ain't some social media place, honey.
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Allybeboba
Legend
For the Chinese it started in 1931 when Japan invaded China. For Europeans, it did when Germany invaded Poland in September of 1939. And for us good old Americans it started in Hawaii on December 7, 1941 at Pearl Harbor. Although we did not declare war until the 8th.
Back to the at hand. Larger player base = short queue times. Everyone should be happy. /salud
Sweettsidney
l30t53dd6p
OG
I don't need a history lesson. All i see is you complaining about stuff you did yourself in the past. I don't need to try harder, I just gave some info hardly any knows cause there arent many "old" twinkers around anymore. What you want to do with it doesnt matter although you try to dodge all of it which looks silly like there is balance between f2p 20s. Dont make me laugh seriously and dont act like you are not guilty of doing said things.
Seriously? assuming and prejudicing when you havent read the post.
Yall are way to negative and hating.
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CripzBlood
Legend
full of shit? its an interesting read and u learn from it.
But just 1 thing, achmed dont generalize why 24s twink in this bracket, its true for some and its not true for others.
Funny to see we did same thing when we twinked at 24.
madhombre
Legend
whats the problem with p2ps? you guys arent crying about the fotm players who roll the most overpowered f2p class each patch so why the hell do you cry about p2ps?
blabla f2ps want a challenge, thats why they only play fotm classes.. doesnt matter if aggramar, spine,TN, magtherion, destromath (biggest german community) or the frenchs, 85% of all are fotm classes.
this bracket is sh^t and everyone who playes it longer than 2 month knows it, double standarts everywhere.
all f2p ppl who roll the most overpowered class each patch (majority of the bracket) are just too poor to pay for their superiority
deal with it or play endgame
blabla f2ps want a challenge, thats why they only play fotm classes.. doesnt matter if aggramar, spine,TN, magtherion, destromath (biggest german community) or the frenchs, 85% of all are fotm classes.
this bracket is sh^t and everyone who playes it longer than 2 month knows it, double standarts everywhere.
all f2p ppl who roll the most overpowered class each patch (majority of the bracket) are just too poor to pay for their superiority
deal with it or play endgame
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