maybe more 24s coming to this bracket?

[madhombre]

Im trash because you're stating wrong facts assuming stupid things? Lol

Or im trash because you're unable to come with solid facts and this is the last resort you came up with? Dont bother to answer, i know.

Fun fact is yoyve tried to bully me for playing ne rogue and when ive said i have belf rogue also you turned 180 talking about rogue in general. Like i said, a medic should do the job for you. Over and out.


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dude, please dont try to use your school rhetoric because bullsh^t stays bullsh^t, fun fact rogue/hunter is a class which is extremely overpowered in the lowlvl SINCE CLASSIC BETA

but yea, you alrdy played rogues when they were not overpowered

edit: in my first post recording to your rogue i said rogues IN GENERAL are overpowered, nightelf rogues with shadowmeld just make them ridiculous.

 

[CripzBlood]

dude, please dont try to use your school rhetoric because bullsh^t stays bullsh^t, fun fact rogue/hunter is a class which is extremely overpowered in the lowlvl SINCE CLASSIC BETA

but yea, you alrdy played rogues when they were not overpowered

edit: in my first post recording to your rogue i said rogues IN GENERAL are overpowered, nightelf rogues with shadowmeld just make them ridiculous.

My opnion, thats not true.

 

[madhombre]

My opnion, thats not true.

im glad you shared your opinion with me and the whole twinkinfo.com community

 

[CripzBlood]

im glad you shared your opinion with me and the whole twinkinfo.com community

u think rogue or hunter were extremely OP or even OP in 5.0-5.1?

 

[madhombre]

u think rogue or hunter were extremely OP or even OP in 5.0-5.1?

i dare saying yes

 

[madhombre]

btw i didnt start this argument because i thought many of you would agree me (lol truth hurts, butthurt ppl everywhere) so its okay if you have other opinions, but cmon saying rogues/huntards werent overpowered the whole fcking game in the lowlvl content isnt even trolling anymore

 

[madhombre]

Yeah, i feel so butthurt, you cant imagine...

And no, rogues werent op in the whole history of wow but druids wre in 5.0-5.2


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not sure why you come up with druids, because i have one in my sig? i dont care if i play or played an overpowered class because i also dont complain about p2ps/other overpowered classes, thats whats different between us .. OH and the knowledge that rogues/huntards where overpowered (in lowlvl) the whole fcking game
keep on dreaming, neverrrrr stop believing

 

[Lil]

Half of these "arguments" are a damn joke lmao.. Can't tell if trolling or people just looking for drama but common people read the posts and realize what's truly being said.

 

[madhombre]

uhm kin how should i bring arguments for my theory? people play strong classes to dominate weak classes, human beeing. p2ps do the same, just on a higher level. i never defended p2ps in this bracket, all i say is they arent the only problem this bracket has.

why do you think are 50-90% of the todays teams filled with rogues/hunters? because they are strong as hell, how should i bring arguments for this? scan the ppls brains? interview them? they would lie, like 99% of the ppl who say they play OP class XY because its such a fun class do.

 

[Kincaide]

uhm kin how should i bring arguments for my theory? people play strong classes to dominate weak classes, human beeing. p2ps do the same, just on a higher level. i never defended p2ps in this bracket, all i say is they arent the only problem this bracket has.

why do you think are 50-90% of the todays teams filled with rogues/hunters? because they are strong as hell, how should i bring arguments for this? scan the ppls brains? interview them? they would lie, like 99% of the ppl who say they play OP class XY because its such a fun class do.

Shit, I accidentally deleted the whole post you are replying to. Sorry.

I answered your question earlier though. If people are gravitating towards the more powerful F2P classes, it is more likely to try to narrow the gap between them and 24s than it is to increase the gap between them and regular F2Ps. That's why I don't play my warrior at the moment.

 

[madhombre]

But i dont lie im honest.... You meany!


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i dont say you lied, to be honest i believe you having fun with your rogue.. powerfull classes are often fun to play, because they have the same or even higher results as other classes with less effort. im sure many huntards feel happy when they burst a mage or warlock, i still dont think thats the definition of enjoying a class

 

[Zehj]

p2ps don't only play op classes, I see loads of them on spriests

 

[madhombre]

Shit, I accidentally deleted the whole post you are replying to. Sorry.

I answered your question earlier though. If people are gravitating towards the more powerful F2P classes, it is more likely to try to narrow the gap between them and 24s than it is to increase the gap between them and regular F2Ps. That's why I don't play my warrior at the moment.

thats the question, is it worth it? im still often in a bg without a single p2p or maybe 1/2 who are terrible (so no danger), but i wasnt (which is sadly no lie) in a bg since 5.4 without atleast 4-5 spots taken by rogues/huntards.
so you ruin the fun for other ppl, justifying it with the fact that other ppl ruin the fun for you

i dont see a big difference there, but maybe thats just me

 

[CripzBlood]

uhm kin how should i bring arguments for my theory? people play strong classes to dominate weak classes, human beeing. p2ps do the same, just on a higher level. i never defended p2ps in this bracket, all i say is they arent the only problem this bracket has.

why do you think are 50-90% of the todays teams filled with rogues/hunters? because they are strong as hell, how should i bring arguments for this? scan the ppls brains? interview them? they would lie, like 99% of the ppl who say they play OP class XY because its such a fun class do.

U think anyone in this bracket who has experienced pugs with lots of 24s and OP classes would roll fury warr?
ppl dont roll OP classes to own weaker classes, atleast most ive seen do it cuz they like class or want to have impact on game.

In my bgs teams arent filled with 50-90% rogues&hunters, thats maybe ur opnion from playing vs germans, frenchs.

If u dont want believe what ppl say, just cuz they dont agree with ur theory then its pretty useless even telling you why.

 

[madhombre]

Spamming rejuv and blinking needs high skillcap, charging spamming MS/Slam requires high skillcap, oh wait, what about denounce spam or ashield?

Nvm, lets talk about lock and enh shamans, compared to those 2, i agree with your sentence )

Dude please, dont go the skillcap road with me, lets end this now

Cripz, you're a hunter so shut up, i hate hunters

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the "skillcap road"? na rogues arent easier than arms warriors, i never said that. they are just stronger, even though both classes are incredible easy at this lvl (well arms warri even on lvl 90)

the strenght of a class isnt equal to its skillcap.
e.g. boomkins, they are very strong, strong even if played average, but sick if played well (many ccs, offheal, decent burst)
other example is the rogue, veeeeery strong if played average, veeeeeery strong if played well.. because there is no difference on this lvl, except maybe the brain to run los (which isnt rogue only) for restealth

affliction warlocks and fury warriors are very weak, does that mean they are hard to play? no

 

[madhombre]

thats the question, is it worth it? im still often in a bg without a single p2p or maybe 1/2 who are terrible (so no danger), but i wasnt (which is sadly no lie) in a bg since 5.4 without atleast 4-5 spots taken by rogues/huntards.
so you ruin the fun for other ppl, justifying it with the fact that other ppl ruin the fun for you

i dont see a big difference there, but maybe thats just me

would still love to see an answer from you kin

 

[Kincaide]

In my bgs teams arent filled with 50-90% rogues&hunters, thats maybe ur opnion from playing vs germans, frenchs.

Cripz raises a good point, madhombre. You still haven't done anything but state your opinion/observation, even though several people have given you concrete examples of how your assumption of certain F2Ps' intentions are inaccurate. However, your opinion is based on your own circumstance, and I have no way of knowing what it's like on EU servers, or what goes through those players' heads. I can tell you, though, that Americans don't really think that way. We're more prone to do what we WANT, not just what's most powerful. As evidence, look through the archives and see how often people say that they want to try unpopular classes to see if they can be made viable, etc.

Your opinion may be true for you, but a) it's only informed by your single limited perspective, and b) in the end, it's still just an opinion.

 

[Kincaide]

would still love to see an answer from you kin

My answer is the same as it's been all along, which is this:

"so you ruin the fun for other ppl, justifying it with the fact that other ppl ruin the fun for you"

^This is still a completely unsubstantiated argument. You claim that I/we play only to ruin someone else's fun, and then ask me if it's worth it? Obviously I can't answer a question that is based on a false premise.

 

[madhombre]

Cripz raises a good point, madhombre. You still haven't done anything but state your opinion/observation, even though several people have given you concrete examples of how your assumption of certain F2Ps' intentions are inaccurate. However, your opinion is based on your own circumstance, and I have no way of knowing what it's like on EU servers, or what goes through those players' heads. I can tell you, though, that Americans don't really think that way. We're more prone to do what we WANT, not just what's most powerful. As evidence, look through the archives and see how often people say that they want to try unpopular classes to see if they can be made viable, etc.

Your opinion may be true for you, but a) it's only informed by your single limited perspective, and b) in the end, it's still just an opinion.

speaking for EU, if ppl say there is no hunter/rogue flood they are simply hypocritical, the thing is i dont care enough to prove you wrong, because i wont take screens of the next 100 bgs just to win an internet discussion. as i said, i didnt start this arguement to get many likes or agreements, if you deny that the majority of this bracket are huntards/rogues now ( i can only speak for EU) keep on lying to yourself, i dont get the point behind lying in that case, maybe its important for ppl who take this bracket too seriously, who cant take critique against them.. ppl who need one enemy, the p2ps.

enjoy that vision while it lasts, because even you guys will wake up some day

edit: kin please dont act stupid,
read and understand it:
"so you ruin the fun for other ppl, justifying it with the fact that other ppl ruin the fun for you"
i never said you want to ruin the fun for others, but YOU DO IT, GOD DAMNIT.. understand that if the majority rolls op classes to keep up vs p2ps, there are also f2ps who suffer.. the ones who wont roll a new fotm class.
so my question is still, is it worth ruining the game for a few ppl because others are runing yours?

 

[Allybeboba]

...I can tell you, though, that Americans don't really think that way. We're more prone to do what we WANT, not just what's most powerful. As evidence, look through the archives and see how often people say that they want to try unpopular classes to see if they can be made viable, etc....
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Well said, as an example there is a discussion going right now about enhance shaman. http://www.twinkinfo.com/forums/f40/enhance-decent-20-24-a-55222/

Sweettsidney..