Lets try something controversial - What do you think happens after death? Discuss.

[The Saint]

Re: Lets try something controversial - What do you think happens after death? Discuss

I am merely stating facts about this subject. I didn't gave my own opinion most of the time. If I do I am posting "My opinion is.."

I did that numerous of times.

One time you did and one time you didn't, but that was not where i pointed too. You say being an Agnostic Atheist is not possible. Hillarious.

Because there are also people who believe and don't claim it's real. An Agnostic Theist.

You have a reading problem. I said he does exclude. I said the Agnostic doesn't exclude.

Agnostic Atheist does not believe any gods exists and doesn't claim no god exists. He is not admitting anything because he doesn't know. He doesn't take the stance that there is one nor that there ain't one.
You are also missing: Gnostic, Agnostic Theist, Gnostic Theist and Gnostic Atheist.

Also you claimed a Agnostic Atheist is the same as an Atheist. I proved you wrong. Thats what I did. You are confusing yourself. You can put general defenitions here again but it has nothing to do with what I said to you earlier. You just grab it to try and proof me wrong but that aint going to happen because they are correct except for Agnostic Atheism (once and one time it was correct) and I am not denying that your other definitions of Atheist and Theists are wrong silly

I don't know if you are even serious or not at this moment. You are so lost and confused about this subject it must be trolling at this point.

Leo, i know what you're saying. It still makes no sense. An agnostic says it's unknown and CAN NOT be known. an atheist says he KNOWS there's no god. Put the two together and they call each other out. I know it's a real term, but it's a BS one.

Please, call your self the third son of your granddads favorite chicken as far as I'm concerned. You are entitled to be what you want.

 

[Falkor]

Re: Lets try something controversial - What do you think happens after death? Discuss

Obviously you're very misguided about God. But I did take evolution in school and I actually paid attention. Being told that I am evolved from primordial soup, pond scum, is very entertaining, but it's MY choice to not believe in that.

thats the great thing about facts though. they dont depend on idiots like you believing in them, it just exposes your ignorance when you choose not to believe in them.

You can believe one thing there's no proof of but not another? That would be faith.

no...its not. not believing is the antithesis of faith. its just true, it requires no belief. there is no god.

Honestly I don't think you have a problem with faith, just god. Maybe some priest was "unkind".

nah i never got touched like you. but i do have a problem with faith as well as god. faith is the opposite of logic and rational..there is no place for it in society going forward. which btw ties in perfectly with some of your stupid .jpgs....if religion has superior morals and a system to follow them (and aethists dont and do whatever they can get away with) then why are religious people so fucked up. priests raping kids, starting holy wars, justifying all sorts of immoral acts.

And while we're on the subject of the universe... You know everything in it points to an intelligent creator?

no it doesnt. name one fact that points to an intelligent creator. if god was intelligent why dont testicles have some sort of protection ffs.

You're obviously a UFO nutter.

your god would be a ufo, if he/she/it existed, dip shit. and no, not a nutter. its literally retarded to think that in the uncountable number of stars and planets in our expanding universe that there is no life outside of earth. especially when we have proof that there are planets with conditions for life - even if said life is just a single cell. there is no need for them to be advanced societies, have saucers, or anything else you keep picturing while trying to disprove this.

Like promoting time travel and wormholes?

both of those hypotheses are rooted in hard science. so i fail to see your point....

Show me where they proved there's no god... In fact they've actually proved some of the bible stories.

they've proven how life can start with out a designer. theyve proven the age of the earth, proven conditions of early earth, and during following ages, proven the bible is wrong essentially on all fronts. and its not like they set out to do that, it just happened. but please show which bible stories are true

But aren't you the one advocating for people not to follow the heard? Or is it as simple as, don't follow that heard...

atheism isnt a herd to follow. its just what smart logical people happen to be. youre the one in a herd, staying there just to defy science and reason to feel comfort with your fellow sheeple

this goes back to what i said before. where is your proof that atheists do what ever they can get away with. why do you think people need 10 commandments to know what is moral in a society. your preacher in a dress doesnt need to tell me not to kill for me to not do it. on the flip side, if religion is the answer then explain all the terrible immoral crimes you nutters commit.

I think the problem is you think your opinion is more valid than others... Again, your opinion is your opinion.

thats the thing though. its not an opinion. the facts, such as evolution, keep happening whether or not you believe in it. i dont need to believe in gravity for it to work.
you can deny it all you want and it wont matter, you'll just keep looking like a dolt to every one except your religious loon friends like hippie

 

[The Saint]

Re: Lets try something controversial - What do you think happens after death? Discuss

no...its not. not believing is the antithesis of faith. its just true, it requires no belief. there is no god.

Then prove there is no god, please. Link it and lets have done with this discussion.

nah i never got touched like you. but i do have a problem with faith as well as god. faith is the opposite of logic and rational..there is no place for it in society going forward. which btw ties in perfectly with some of your stupid .jpgs....if religion has superior morals and a system to follow them (and aethists dont and do whatever they can get away with) then why are religious people so fucked up. priests raping kids, starting holy wars, justifying all sorts of immoral acts.

I could give you the most obvious answer and say they're not true believers. Or free will.

But i'll just say there's as many none believers done these things.

no it doesnt. name one fact that points to an intelligent creator. if god was intelligent why dont testicles have some sort of protection ffs.

Why didn't evolution give them protection then

your god would be a ufo, if he/she/it existed, dip shit. and no, not a nutter. its literally retarded to think that in the uncountable number of stars and planets in our expanding universe that there is no life outside of earth. especially when we have proof that there are planets with conditions for life - even if said life is just a single cell. there is no need for them to be advanced societies, have saucers, or anything else you keep picturing while trying to disprove this.

Because they'd never get past your tinfoil hat.

I'm sure has they've never been found, that you have "faith" they're there...

both of those hypotheses are rooted in hard science. so i fail to see your point....

So where are they? The theory of god has to be proven, but this, this daft assumption should be taken as fact... Wake up man.

they've proven how life can start with out a designer. theyve proven the age of the earth, proven conditions of early earth, and during following ages, proven the bible is wrong essentially on all fronts. and its not like they set out to do that, it just happened. but please show which bible stories are true

No, you show me which ones aren't. Then, Then I'll show you where your friends (not the green ones) have decided they're true.

As someone who doesn't subscribe to one true religion, I actually have trouble believing some bible stories. But your lot went and decided they're fact. Silly fuckers.

atheism isnt a herd to follow. its just what smart logical people happen to be. youre the one in a herd, staying there just to defy science and reason to feel comfort with your fellow sheeple

If you read what i've actually wrote, you'll see I don't actually have a religion. I just believe there's a god. You are the one following the heard of intelligent logical people... perhaps envy?

this goes back to what i said before. where is your proof that atheists do what ever they can get away with. why do you think people need 10 commandments to know what is moral in a society. your preacher in a dress doesnt need to tell me not to kill for me to not do it. on the flip side, if religion is the answer then explain all the terrible immoral crimes you nutters commit.

I've already said that was a joke. BUT, I do think I'm more moral than you. I have the good manners not to insult people beliefs untill im insulted.

thats the thing though. its not an opinion. the facts, such as evolution, keep happening whether or not you believe in it. i dont need to believe in gravity for it to work.
you can deny it all you want and it wont matter, you'll just keep looking like a dolt to every one except your religious loon friends like hippie

But there's still no facts that definitively prove that theory. It's nice you think it's true. But you cant link me one "fact" that the whole scientific community agree on.

Maybe they use different tinfoil, who knows.

 

[l30t53dd6p]

Re: Lets try something controversial - What do you think happens after death? Discuss

Leo, i know what you're saying. It still makes no sense. An agnostic says it's unknown and CAN NOT be known. an atheist says he KNOWS there's no god.

Please, call your self the third son of your granddads favorite chicken as far as I'm concerned. You are entitled to be what you want.

You don't know what I am saying.

You keep saying the same thing about Agnostic. Agnostic doesn't say it's unknown and it cannot be known lol. There is the mistake again. He/the agnostic says he doesn't know is alot different then if something is unknown which is a general thing and he doesn't known is a personal thing.

Put the two together and they call each other out. I know it's a real term, but it's a BS one.

They don't call eachother out. That only happens if people have not enough knolledge

And seriously... It is a real term.. what makes you say then that its BS.... That vid I linked of the old guy pretty much explains how this term is possible with examples and with a bit of thinking, i know you are able too, you should acknolledge the term as for real and not BS.

Don't waste my time anymore trying to explain this to you if you don't want to accept the facts!

 

[Goesid]

Re: Lets try something controversial - What do you think happens after death? Discuss

The irony of religion is cause of its power to divert man to destructive courses, the world actually could come to an end.

The plain fact is, religion must die for man kind to live, the hour is getting very late to be able to indulge in having key decisions made by religious people, by irrationalists, by those who would steer the ship, not by a compass but by the equivelent of reading the intrails of a chicken. George Bush prayed alot about Iraq but he didn't learn anything about it. Faith means making a virtue of not thinking. It's nothing to brag about and those who preach faith and enable and elevate it are intellectual slaveholders, keeping mankind in a bondage of fantasy and nonsense that have spawned so much lunacy and destruction. Religion is dangerous because it allows human beings who don't have all the answers to think that they do.

Most people would think it's wonderful when someone says I'm willing lord I'll do whatever you want me to do. Except since there are no gods actually talking to us, that void is filled in by people with their own corruptions and limitations and agendas and anyone who tells you they know, they just know what happends when you die, I promise you, they don't, how can I be so sure? Because I don't know and you do not possess mental powers that I do not. The only appropriate attitude for man to have about the big questions is not the arrogant certitude that is the whole mark of religion but doubt, doubt is humble and that's what man needs to be considering that human history is just a litt of getting shit dead wrong.

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[The Saint]

Re: Lets try something controversial - What do you think happens after death? Discuss

You don't know what I am saying.

Agnostic doesn't say it's unknown and it cannot be known lol.

Agnostic | Define Agnostic at Dictionary.com

Urban Dictionary: agnostic

agnostic: definition of agnostic in Oxford dictionary (British & World English)

They don't call eachother out. That only happens if people have not enough knolledge

Atheist | Define Atheist at Dictionary.com

atheist: definition of atheist in Oxford dictionary (British & World English)

Urban Dictionary: Atheist

And seriously... It is a real term.. what makes you say then that its BS.... That vid I linked of the old guy pretty much explains how this term is possible with examples and with a bit of thinking, i know you are able too, you should acknolledge the term as for real and not BS.

Don't waste my time anymore trying to explain this to you if you don't want to accept the facts!

No. I will not take it seriously. One says there's no god, the other says it cant be proven.

Don't waste my time with some bullshit term, some quack doctor came up with because he didn't know what to think.

Have a good night.

 

[l30t53dd6p]

Re: Lets try something controversial - What do you think happens after death? Discuss

Agnostic | Define Agnostic at Dictionary.com

Urban Dictionary: agnostic

agnostic: definition of agnostic in Oxford dictionary (British & World English)

I pointed out your mistake again and your reaction is selective quoting and links. Lets take it out of context again. Priceless.

Now start reading my post and the links you linked me and learn to read them carefully.

Atheist | Define Atheist at Dictionary.com

atheist: definition of atheist in Oxford dictionary (British & World English)

Urban Dictionary: Atheist

Linking Atheism to prove that Agnostic and Atheism don't go together is not really proof.

No. I will not take it seriously. One says there's no god, the other says it cant be proven.

Don't waste my time with some bullshit term, some quack doctor came up with because he didn't know what to think.

Have a good night.

I'm gonna post a Wiki... how about that
Agnostic atheism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You are still lost The Saint. Actually even more lost then before. You come with half arsed reactions, opinons and claims that are not complete and don't read properly. Try again and harder please but this time there wont be a reaction from me and I am not going to read yours because you are a lost cause concerning this trying to push your opinion against the facts that are there; a thing I allready knew from the start which you can read in the first posts I made.

Cheers.

 

[Druiddroid]

Re: Lets try something controversial - What do you think happens after death? Discuss

I wonder when either [MENTION=5987]The Saint[/MENTION] or [MENTION=2126]leotseddap[/MENTION] will stop posting.. I got my money on the agnostic atheist. $1 paypal bet anyone?

 

[The Saint]

Re: Lets try something controversial - What do you think happens after death? Discuss

I pointed out your mistake again and your reaction is selective quoting and links. Lets take it out of context again. Priceless.

Now start reading my post and the links you linked me and learn to read them carefully.

Linking Atheism to prove that Agnostic and Atheism don't go together is not really proof.


I'm gonna post a Wiki... how about that
Agnostic atheism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You are still lost The Saint. Actually even more lost then before. You come with half arsed reactions, opinons and claims that are not complete and don't read properly. Try again and harder please but this time there wont be a reaction from me and I am not going to read yours because you are a lost cause concerning this trying to push your opinion against the facts that are there; a thing I allready knew from the start which you can read in the first posts I made.

Cheers.

Thanks. Like I said. A made up term from some quack doctor.

I'm an agnostic theist atheist.

I believe there's a god, but there's no way of proving it, so they might not be.

- The saint 10/07/2014.

 

[The Saint]

Re: Lets try something controversial - What do you think happens after death? Discuss

I wonder when either The Saint or leotseddap will stop posting.. I got my money on the agnostic atheist. $1 paypal bet anyone?

Bet on leo. I won't stop when I'm right. I just think he's pissed because I proved him wrong on me being an atheist.

Then proved that the term Agnostic Atheist is flawed AT BEST.

 

[Elkiva]

Re: Lets try something controversial - What do you think happens after death? Discuss

I have another selection of articles for you all to admire.

Scientists Claim That Quantum Theory Proves Consciousness Moves To Another Universe At Death
4 Theories On What Happens When You Die
Has Science Explained Life After Death?
Quantum Physics proves that there IS an afterlife after death, Claims Scientist.

Enjoy the read.

 

[madhombre]

Re: Lets try something controversial - What do you think happens after death? Discuss

random links, random links everywhere (you would be surprised how many profs publish bullshit (and yes, not only in the religion vs non religion argument)) so please, dont believe every single sht you read on the mighty internet

edit: but hey, youre kinda used to believe bullsht huehuehuehue

 

[Elkiva]

Re: Lets try something controversial - What do you think happens after death? Discuss

random links, random links everywhere (you would be surprised how many profs publish bullshit (and yes, not only in the religion vs non religion argument)) so please, dont believe every single sht you read on the mighty internet

edit: but hey, youre kinda used to believe bullsht huehuehuehue

I'm just linking articles which I consider interesting, I never said I believed them did I? They're just food for thought, but you know...I can't put my own personal input into this thread without being stigmatized or insulted. Hey ho.

 

[Nicozy]

Re: Lets try something controversial - What do you think happens after death? Discuss

The flying meatball decides your faith along with a unicorn, Casper the ghost and your mom.

 

[madhombre]

Re: Lets try something controversial - What do you think happens after death? Discuss

I'm just linking articles which I consider interesting, I never said I believed them did I? They're just food for thought, but you know...I can't put my own personal input into this thread without being stigmatized or insulted. Hey ho.

oh my god (hehe) i called you naive, please report me so i get another infraction..

 

[Elkiva]

Re: Lets try something controversial - What do you think happens after death? Discuss

oh my god (hehe) i called you naive, please report me so i get another infraction..

Bad man.

 

[l30t53dd6p]

Re: Lets try something controversial - What do you think happens after death? Discuss

Thanks. Like I said. A made up term from some quack doctor.

I'm an agnostic theist atheist.

I believe there's a god, but there's no way of proving it, so they might not be.

- The saint 10/07/2014.

After all this investigation you did... you still don't get it and make a terrible sentence in hopes of proving something again.. but you fail to aknolledge man xD I am litterally laughing at your face how stupid this quote is.

Bet on leo.

It is pointless to continue.

I won't stop when I'm right.

In your dreams.

I just think he's pissed

I am not.

because I proved him wrong on me being an atheist.

You take it out of context stupid.

Then proved that the term Agnostic Atheist is flawed AT BEST.

You didn't prove anything.

Anyway like I said it is pointless. We are eachothers opposit. You are a gnostic theist and I am a agnostic atheist and we all know that the agnostic atheist is way more intellectual that the gnostic theist when it comes to arguments about this.

Shall we continue the discussion about god and religion The Saint?

 

[The Saint]

Re: Lets try something controversial - What do you think happens after death? Discuss

It is pointless to continue.

Because you've already lost.

In your dreams.

Yes, there too.

I am not.

You sound like it.

You take it out of context stupid.

And you want to change words definitions just to suit you argument.

You didn't prove anything.

The only thing I haven't proved is that god exists. And if I could do that I'd be a very rich and powerful man.

What does this say?....

You don't know what I am saying.

You keep saying the same thing about Agnostic. Agnostic doesn't say it's unknown and it cannot be known lol.

What does this say?.... agnostic: definition of agnostic in Oxford dictionary (British & World English)

 

[l30t53dd6p]

Re: Lets try something controversial - What do you think happens after death? Discuss

Because you've already lost.



Yes, there too.

I am not.

You sound it.



And you want to change words definitions just to suit you argument.



The only thing I haven't proved is that god exists. And if I could do that I'd be a very rich and powerful man.

What does this say?....



What does this say?.... agnostic: definition of agnostic in Oxford dictionary (British & World English)

Go cry me a river. You are not that smart as proven over and over again. Now you are just trolling to get to me and trying to make me pissed? To bad for you I never get pissed or angry xD

 

[The Saint]

Re: Lets try something controversial - What do you think happens after death? Discuss

Go cry me a river. You are not that smart as proven over and over again. Now you are just trolling to get to me and trying to make me pissed? To bad for you I never get pissed or angry xD

No when i try to troll, I succeed.

You've proven you don't Know what Agnostic actually means. And by calling me an Atheist, (Someone who's said they believe in god) you've proven you don't know the meaning of that either. All while in your little passive aggressive attitude, telling me I don't know what I'm talking about. Well, look back at the last few pages. You're not only wrong. You're delusionally wrong.