EU+US Legion Beta Q&A
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icehawk
The Beast Within
Can anyone confirm if weapon proc's still occur in instanced PvP or is that gone also? Like http://www.wowhead.com/item=1482/shadowfang&spec=253 or http://www.wowhead.com/item=6909/strike-of-the-hydra.
Falendor
Grandfathered
Can F2P lock XP at 19 and play BGs?
Any change in the brackets? (i.e: Is there still a 10-19, 20-29, etc?) And is it true that we no longer get auto-leveled to the highest in bracket? How much does iLvL affect template stats in the 10-19 and 20-29 brackets, min to max difference/comparison?
Any change in the brackets? (i.e: Is there still a 10-19, 20-29, etc?) And is it true that we no longer get auto-leveled to the highest in bracket? How much does iLvL affect template stats in the 10-19 and 20-29 brackets, min to max difference/comparison?
despiler
Grandfathered
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SPQR
Legend
Last time i tried it, every on equip effect is greyed out in pvp instances. so it should not work.
There is no way of testing starter restrictions on ptr as it is not existing there.
Brackets are still 10-19, 20-29.
Item scaling is no longer in place.
probably because it gives 0 effect even if it was on due to the fact that they would scale to max cap (thus giving no +preset stats).
As for player scaling: last time i tried it, you are no longer scaled up to brackets max level.
Preset stats seems to be scaling down to your current level, so that is the reason level 20 and level 29 have different stats: strength, agility stamina. There are some screenshots of stats been posted on this forum if you wish to look them up.
Overall difference in stamina between level 20 and 29 around 2k hp (not as scary as it sounds, kill command does around 800 dmg).
is it intentional or is it not? i have no idea. as they seems to ignore twink related posts we just have to wait untill prepatch and people bitching in general forums about it.
If im to speculate: it can be intentional due to the fact how zone scaling/item scaling on creating works overall.
How much does iLvL affect template stats: i dont really see any efficient difference.
You could use the rock rings but other than that its just pointless to break your tmog for it.
as many spells already do significant amount of damage on their own, you will not feel any difference anyway due to the fact of you being dead in 3-4 shots.
Im all up to this bracket being this way. As a starter 20 i have never consider myself a "twink" because i didnt had any say in me being put agains 29s.
All i need from this bracket is classes being able to kill one another fast with alot random players and 5m bg q pops 24/7.
Hope they remove health difference between a level 20 and 29, but there probably still be a difference due to " player progression " shit talk.
icehawk
The Beast Within
I hope that the 20's not scaling health and stat wise to 29 in bg's is a bug. Honestly makes no sense to have gear and chants taken out the way to make it a more equal footing and then do something as stupid as taking out the current scaling to max level so it's unfair again. I just don't get it. If they want to do that then leave the chants and gear alone so at least 20's (Vets) can chant up and have some chance.
Fingers crossed they fix it as I can't see any sense whatsoever keeping it as is.
Fingers crossed they fix it as I can't see any sense whatsoever keeping it as is.
DeLindsay
10s4Lyf
From the day it hits (not 7.0 but likely 7.0.1 or 7.0.2) until Legion drops, usually about 3 weeks.
icehawk
The Beast Within
I thought I read somewhere here on XPOff that the Legion pre-patch invasion gear (which comes in those boxes that drop) is not mog'able. Is that confirmed? Well at least for level 20's and I'm guessing for all levels lower than 100?
If that isn't mog'able, then is someone able to confirm if the set purchased by a lvl 100 (with the shards that drop or are awarded from the invasion events) are mog'able at 20 (or at the lower levels).
If that's the case then does that mean we'll need an active 100 to obtain the mog's from the pre-patch invasion?
Would be cool if someone were able to confirm this. Thanks in advance guys
If that isn't mog'able, then is someone able to confirm if the set purchased by a lvl 100 (with the shards that drop or are awarded from the invasion events) are mog'able at 20 (or at the lower levels).
If that's the case then does that mean we'll need an active 100 to obtain the mog's from the pre-patch invasion?
Would be cool if someone were able to confirm this. Thanks in advance guys
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OP
SPQR
Legend
I thought I read somewhere here on XPOff that the Legion pre-patch invasion gear (which comes in those boxes that drop) is not mog'able. Is that confirmed? Well at least for level 20's and I'm guessing for all levels lower than 100?
If that isn't mog'able, then is someone able to confirm if the set purchased by a lvl 100 (with the shards that drop or are awarded from the invasion events) are mog'able at 20 (or at the lower levels).
If that's the case then does that mean we'll need an active 100 to obtain the mog's from the pre-patch invasion?
Would be cool if someone were able to confirm this. Thanks in advance guys
You are able to tmog those gears.
The only problem you may face as low level is tmog cost + lack of mail/plate items to tmog in to.
Tmogin heirlooms still cost 1g so there is a room for that.
I did get invasion items added to my tmog collection, so see no problem there.
I see no reason why you would not be able to tmog it on high level if you albe to do it at 20 as same class.
You just will need collect invasion sets for each armor type you wish to tmog.
Even if those gears are superior in stats to anything we got atm, some iconic items like
http://www.wowhead.com/item=1121/feet-of-the-lynx
http://www.wowhead.com/item=56699/aluwyns-legguards
http://www.wowhead.com/item=1489/gloomshroud-armor
http://www.wowhead.com/item=1482/shadowfang
still have more style. Atleast imo.
especially with new http://legion.wowhead.com/spell=206662/experience-eliminated buff on you
icehawk
The Beast Within
Ok, I've seen a lot on this website about Legion chant for 10's. Anyone done any investigations as to what the BiS chants are for Vet's and 29's come Legion? I know it's only for WPvP and PvE but still, a twink's gotta be tough and 'juiced to the gills with chants'!
Also, has there been any experimentation with the new neck and ring chants and how they scale at 20 - 29? Are the WoD chants comparable or are they BiS? Do we need to change any of our Vanilla (or our old) chants?
I want to be prepared so if Blizz give out that 7-day free trial stuff come Legion or Pre-Patch I'll be able to chant up in that time frame.
Hope some 20's / 29's have done enough experimentation to comment. Thanks in advance all
Also, has there been any experimentation with the new neck and ring chants and how they scale at 20 - 29? Are the WoD chants comparable or are they BiS? Do we need to change any of our Vanilla (or our old) chants?
I want to be prepared so if Blizz give out that 7-day free trial stuff come Legion or Pre-Patch I'll be able to chant up in that time frame.
Hope some 20's / 29's have done enough experimentation to comment. Thanks in advance all
DeLindsay
10s4Lyf
I can assure you I will be spending as much time as I have free (gotta sleep, eat and work) to determine what all the new shinys in Legion are and how they apply to lower Level Twinks. Granted in my case that's 10's for my lower Levels (I also Twink 70 and 99, but nothing in between currently) but if it applies to 10's then for the most part it applies to 20's, 29's etc. I will be updating my Thread in the 10's section in regards to Enchanting as soon as I have the correct Legion info. This does mean once it's Live though, but that's barely any time from now.
Do bear in mind that at Rank 1/3 all Enchants are stupidly expensive and while I have a couple hundred thousand Gold right now that's gonna go fast when 7.0 drops, even if all I do is spend it on Crafting and nothing else. This means I won't be able to have all info perfect day 1 that 7.0 is Live, it's going to take a while to make it all happen. 7.0, the Invasion and Legion itself is dropping at the worst time of year for those of us that work at Cinemas because we're at our busiest so it's going to be a challenge.
TL;DR - The Twinking Community will be informed explicitly of all the changes probably faster than the average Player, so don't worry too much.
icehawk
The Beast Within
Thanks @DeLindsay. That would be awesome. I will obviously be farming the pre-patch gear on some of my 20's. Probably not on all as I'm sort of busy with work and stuff also. I will do my best to farm at least on 2 or 3 of my favourite toons. But I may wait to chant up till I get some certainty from your post and other posts come Legion. I want to do it once and once only if possible.
I remember last time making heaps of mistakes and I sub'd up several times to complete my twinks so I want to avoid that this time if possible.
Gold is a problem for me, I never really worked the AH or anything like that. I think after 5 years of end game WOW the most gold I ever had was like 60k (most of which I blew on bags for my twinks - lol). I only have like 3k now on my unsub'd 100 so that's an issue for me if I need to buy some chants.
I may have to bite the bullet and re-sub if it's essential to get the Legion chants. I will need the best or I wont be happy - lol. I'm guessing most twinks have that issue. I don't care that it's not usable in instanced PvP, I still wanna be like Iggy - 'so fancy'!
DeLindsay
10s4Lyf
The very definition of Twinking.I still wanna be like Iggy - 'so fancy'!
icehawk
The Beast Within
Apologies for this question if I've missed the answer somewhere on these forums, but has it been confirmed in Legion whether 20's ilvl scales up to 34 in instanced PvP like 29's? And do the stat templates look the same in instanced PvP? In some of the posts above it appeared that there may be a bug - I certainly hope it's a bug and not intended. I'm trying to understand how the ilvl increase will benefit the 20's if they already have a reduced stat template. I guess I'll be finding out soon enough but if anyone has any experience on this matter their comments would be appreciated.
And from what I'm seeing, it appears Engineering is a must (at least for Vet 20's) to obtain some of the higher ilvl items (to be able to equip them at least). With consumables not usable in instanced PvP I'm guessing Alchemy is no longer a must for this bracket, so probably no big deal to pick up Engineering.
And from what I'm seeing, it appears Engineering is a must (at least for Vet 20's) to obtain some of the higher ilvl items (to be able to equip them at least). With consumables not usable in instanced PvP I'm guessing Alchemy is no longer a must for this bracket, so probably no big deal to pick up Engineering.
DeLindsay
10s4Lyf
All I know in regards to the 20-29 Bracket on Beta/PTR right now is that Heirlooms aren't scaling at all, they show iLvL 1, which has to be a bug similar to how Armory showed them at iLvL 1 for the longest time. ~56 hours or so and we'll have pretty much all the answers we need.
Oh also, after reading what Wowhead posted about what IS and what IS NOT coming in the initial 7.0 Pre-Patch this Tuesday it seems as if the Profession changes are there (new UI and such) but the way it reads we won't be able to actually learn the new Legion Patterns until Legion actually hits Aug 30th. If that's the case, then we won't be able to test the new Neck Enchants for another 6 weeks.
Oh also, after reading what Wowhead posted about what IS and what IS NOT coming in the initial 7.0 Pre-Patch this Tuesday it seems as if the Profession changes are there (new UI and such) but the way it reads we won't be able to actually learn the new Legion Patterns until Legion actually hits Aug 30th. If that's the case, then we won't be able to test the new Neck Enchants for another 6 weeks.
icehawk
The Beast Within
I have a question regarding mogs. Do you need to log into all your characters to obtain the mogs from all your toons? I just watched the video on Armory and it says once you log in you will receive all the items your character has unlocked. Does that mean you need to log in on all your toons? Or once you log in with 1 toon are all your account mogs unlocked?
Anyone know how this works? I know we'll find out soon enough but I can't wait to know - lol.
Anyone know how this works? I know we'll find out soon enough but I can't wait to know - lol.