EU+US Item Level and Stats

[Lil]

This guy has an item lvl of 44, so a +2 if we got all this right. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/terokkar/Ah/advanced

This was him in bear form

Good God 9k health

Idk how to figure out the classes that have stam increases (druids,wars,pallies) nor do I care to.. It's probably another simple forumula but I don't needa worry about that Also I have no idea why locks get added HP

 

[raziel83]

Weapon speed affects your dmg. Go the 60's thread on US forums (page 18-19).

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20745686417?page=19#374

The addon to show all your hidden stats such as base character sheet dmg and weapon speed is
http://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/dejacharacterstats

 

[Palonabanana]

Weapon speed affects your dmg

Weapon ilvl to a larger degree, and then weapon speed somewhat. This applies to those abilities which depend on weapon dmg for damage calculation. My Cobra shot hits harder with Charmed Ancient Bone Bow than Shrewd Crossbow, even though both are 2.8.

 

[Allybeboba]

lol wpvp is dead since years.

I am sure wPvP, and WoW for that matter, have been "dead" for some people for "since years". However, many (in the case of WoW millions) continue to enjoy it to this very day.

I think he's talking about PvP outside of BGs. Blizzard said that would be the case, only instanced PvP do you get this stat template.

Yes, Blizzard stated "instanced PvP" specifically.

Vers is completely gone on my Guardian... I found the stats with DejaCharacterStats and it was 0%/0% for some reason. I don't think I have any other characters with +vers chants to test with.

Edit: Ok I Q'd him as heals, I can see the vers stats this time. It's unchanged by enchants.

We have a base versatility in instanced PvP. I do not know what it is for the 20-29 bracket as I have not had the opportunity to try it of yet. In the 10-19 bracket it is ~7%. And the buff food does increase it accordingly.

 

[Holythane]

Weapon speed affects your dmg. Go the 60's thread on US forums (page 18-19).

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20745686417?page=19#374

The addon to show all your hidden stats such as base character sheet dmg and weapon speed is
http://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/dejacharacterstats

I like how 60s post twink secrets on blizzards actual forums basically saying "blizz please patch this ty"

 

[DeLindsay]

I like how 60s post twink secrets on blizzards actual forums basically saying "blizz please patch this ty"

Yeah but there are Blizz spies on here, Owndcore, YouTube and Reddit, most things get hotfixed sooner than later.

 

[Holythane]

Yeah but there are Blizz spies on here, Owndcore, YouTube and Reddit, most things get hotfixed sooner than later.

hey blizz spies nice to meet you xoxo

 

[Nodoka]

I am sure wPvP, and WoW for that matter, have been "dead" for some people for "since years". However, many (in the case of WoW millions) continue to enjoy it to this very day.

WoW is so far from dead lol, but world pvp does not relaly exist anymore. Not in the way that it used to be back in the days. Now the only wpvp you might get is people ganking on max lvl toons in hellfire. And possibly a bit now that legion is hitting soon and everyone needs to level up their mains.
But as for low lvl wpvp its horrible and non existing

I like how 60s post twink secrets on blizzards actual forums basically saying "blizz please patch this ty"

60s just salty cause they miss 50%

 

[Allybeboba]

Yeah but there are Blizz spies on here, Owndcore, YouTube and Reddit, most things get hotfixed sooner than later.

You guys are way too paranoid. Time for the tinfoil hats!!

 

[icehawk]

Can you download this and tell me what your item level is? http://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/dejacharacterstats
My guess is it's between 34 and 40.

Hi Hashbrowns. Cool add-on. Don't know why they took all the stats off our character sheet.
U r correct in that it went from 24 up to 36 (between 34 and 40).
One other thing I noticed is that the minor speed chant on the boots doesn't increase ur speed inside the bg. It only has value out of instances PvP.
Also my new rings and neck aren't chanted, but the old ones have haste chants, so it seems the haste chants don't affect anything inside the bg. I'll try with some Versa chants as I'm hearing mixed signals so far re : Versa in bgs.

Thanks for posting that link for the add-on. Great for testing value.

 

[Hashbrowns]

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Hi Hashbrowns. Cool add-on. Don't know why they took all the stats off our character sheet.
U r correct in that it went from 24 up to 36 (between 34 and 40).
One other thing I noticed is that the minor speed chant on the boots doesn't increase ur speed inside the bg. It only has value out of instances PvP.
Also my new rings and neck aren't chanted, but the old ones have haste chants, so it seems the haste chants don't affect anything inside the bg. I'll try with some Versa chants as I'm hearing mixed signals so far re : Versa in bgs.

Thanks for posting that link for the add-on. Great for testing value.

Yep someone else showed me that its awesome. You can also turn on all stats in the options. Yea chants aren't going to work and what your describing sounds right.

@Lil the only thing I don't know is if it's actually a stat bump every 6 or that just happens to be the case when it rounds up. Like increasing 1 item level might give a small fraction of a stat that we don't even see. Which might make more sense since they said its going to give a % increase. But really doesn't matter much...

 

[Hashbrowns]

Actual @Lil he got 1 agility and 1 stam at 36... I bet it was enough to push him over. Did you try and increment 1 item level at a time? You may not have noticed if you jumped right to 40.

 

[Pixel]

Trust the good old f2p's to be sorting stuff out before anyone else. Resourceful bunch.

 

[Falendor]

F2P here, trying to sort stuff out but failing miserably

So let me get this straight; in the end having all greys is almost the same as having BiS?

 

[Hashbrowns]

So someone had a great point, I think it was @Fry who thought it might be the wand specifically giving the extra stats. My guess is it's counting as a 2her so you are essentially getting a free slot, the OH. Which would explain why I get 6 more int, that's a ton in the sense of item level scaling.

Someone could test this, equip wand/oh record int. Switch to 1her, record int lost. Take off gloves, record int lost. Are those loss of stats the same? I'm guessing so.

 

[Fry]

So someone had a great point, I think it was @Fry who thought it might be the wand specifically giving the extra stats. My guess is it's counting as a 2her so you are essentially getting a free slot, the OH. Which would explain why I get 6 more int, that's a ton in the sense of item level scaling.

Someone could test this, equip wand/oh record int. Switch to 1her, record int lost. Take off gloves, record int lost. Are those loss of stats the same? I'm guessing so.

I deleted it cause Albino said everyone already knew about it and that there have been multiple threads about it
but ill post it again..
Just saying cause I haven't seen priests with wands equipped.

mace

wand

not playing atm, so I can't test the take gloves off/put them on thing
but i did try with some wands, from different ilvls (up to 25), with stats, with no stats, whites, greens, different speeds... and it didn't go up or down one bit

 

[Fry]

So someone had a great point, I think it was @Fry who thought it might be the wand specifically giving the extra stats. My guess is it's counting as a 2her so you are essentially getting a free slot, the OH. Which would explain why I get 6 more int, that's a ton in the sense of item level scaling.

Someone could test this, equip wand/oh record int. Switch to 1her, record int lost. Take off gloves, record int lost. Are those loss of stats the same? I'm guessing so.

Not sure if this is what you wanted...
But i think you're right.. stats of me equipping wand w no gloves, are the same as equiping all my slots+mace.

stats

 

[Hashbrowns]

Yea works like I thought, it's like an extra slot. Tauren Priest is going to have like 4600 health. GG