US Is 20-29 still a thing?

Discussion in 'Level 20-29' started by Apnea, Sep 19, 2019.

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  1. Neon

    Neon Classic tink

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    Ok players of that level do not even play retail 20s the best you are going to find is light, chops or hvnter.
     
  2. Kracks

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    Exactly which is why I am saying this bracket needs more competitive players u dunce.
     
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  3. Neon

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    Well it won't happen also I have a video for everyone.

     
  4. Radical

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    @Neon want to have a manic episode with me and we can both disband our guilds at the same time?
     
  5. Goesid

    Goesid Twink Info Legend Fancy Pants

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    Since the topic of the thread seems to be the same 5 people talking and a familiar face popping in to say this thread sure went bonkers, I'm just gonna keep it up.

    Wow, this sure went off the rails quickly.
     
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  6. jwl

    jwl Trade-Glitch / FC God.

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    WSG is the only thing worth organizing lmao. "competitive" arenas lmao what a joke
     
  7. Voc

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    "this is 20s if you want competitive go play 120" "its just 4 buttons at 20" "bla bla bla"

    as a multiaccount multixpac multiclass multiseason god of gods let me tell you idiots who say this can get slapped at 20 or 120 its the same game just bc 120 has more buttons does not make it any more competitive there are tiers at both levels comps who will on avg perform better than others and you have less ways to get out of mistakes at 20 vs 120 so in some ways 20 (just like 19) can be, at times, more mechanically competitive

    with that said arenas are a joke at any level, wsg or nothing
     
  8. melabeari

    melabeari meh

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    gotta agree with this, the bracket isn't dead, fast ques and its free, most of the people still playing twinks are in BG's carrying lvlers
    against the other teams twinks carrying lvlers, if you want competitive arenas ur gonna have to organize it urself, probably helps if the people u want to have competitive play against either like or respect you, cause if i didnt like someone i wouldn't want to play a game with them for fun.

    (btw- i resubbed to play classic and if i play my vets and someone breaths on them they will ding 21, so been playing my ftp's and I find it alot more rewarding, imo)
     
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  9. Kracks

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    I agree with everything u said except for that last part.
     
  10. Divinium

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    Saw it was mentioned a few times that we dodged, or were not interested in playing against a particular team. For the sake of clarity, I will arena against any 3 players that own level 20 characters. I don't care your comp or your experience. I really just wanna play.

    Let's set something up for tonight or tomorrow before I leave for vacation. Divinium#11116
     
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  11. Voc

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    there is so much wrong info in this thread I don't have the patience to go through it all but those who say short fights aren't better than long fights you would get slapped either way so why are you saying anything

    short fights are always better bc high dmg high burst means you have to be that much more on top of everything, this is big part of why legion was better than bfa
    --- Double Post Merged, Sep 20, 2019, Original Post Date: Sep 20, 2019 ---
    and those saying 20s are dead or dying u can't hang anyway

    a lot of active 20s Qing (mostly random BGs, should start specific WSG evenings pst time btw)
     
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  12. Kracks

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    Exactly slower fights with less burst is playing on easy mode.
     
  13. Voc

    Voc Moxiequota

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    wsg > arenas

    everything you do in that arena can be done in wsg
     
  14. Kracks

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    I enjoy both. Bging on alliance isn’t fun tho so I’m making a horde Druid
     
  15. Voc

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    in 6 days it might be more fun to Q alli, I have a new alli warrior will play 50/50 alli warrior horde rogue/druid
     
  16. Kracks

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    Well I also have two alliance twinks so we will see
     
  17. Kincaide

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    @Kracks If what you want is more arena teams to fight against, I think you're going to have to go where the people already are. You're in a bracket where the vast vast majority of potential opponents are F2P, and it should be clear why they wouldn't want to queue against imba Vet opponents.

    I feel like what you're really asking for, is for more subscribers to roll a 20 Vet to arena with you. My question is, why would they? Anyone interested in doing that has already done so. Again the vast vast majority of people who give money to Blizzard are obviously going to be playing endgame or Classic right now. There is literally nothing to draw them to 20s that they don't already have wherever they're already playing, except of course the opportunity to roflstomp on F2Ps and levelers. And obviously no one's going to queue for that.

    So in reading this thread objectively, I'm struck by this question: if the most important thing to you is that you get more arena pops, then -why not- roll a pure F2P and re-invigorate that community? You would have tons of potential teams to play against, and people would be much more inclined to participate if they knew the outcome would be based on skill and not money. I get that you -prefer- Vet arenas because bursty damage is more precise, etc. And that's totally cool, but, if the choice is between playing a ton with your non-preferred low burst, or playing not-at-all with your preferred high burst.... what will you choose?

    You can't go on complaining that no one is rolling imba vets when a) nobody wants to or has reason to roll them, and b) no one wants to or has reason to queue against them. Again, go where the people are! I am certain that if you re-direct that great amount of energy and passion you have into a project, you will get results. Nevermind the burstiness of it; encourage gameplay where the people already are. You've already had several people tell you they'd be up for that. You only need to be willing to walk away from the enchants and allow skill and reaction time to be the deciding factors.

    I mean at the very least, why not do this on the side, while you're waiting for your Vet Arena ship to come in?

    Just a suggestion.
     
  18. Kracks

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    Hell no am I reading that
     
  19. Kincaide

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    Well then you're not really interested in changing or improving anything, are you?

    Edit: And also, I rather strongly suspect that you -did- read it--every word--and you just don't have a good answer for it. Because your motives aren't what you claim they are.
     
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  20. Divinium

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    I could be missing something, but I'm pretty sure you're waaaaaaay off in assuming that the vast majority (or even the majority) of players is f2p. I rarely come across a f2p toon. All of the Elwynn sitters and people in BGs have enchants, and all of the twinks we've ever arena'd against have enchants as well. Making f2p toons would put us at a distinct disadvantage for no reason.

    It truly just is a difference in perspective and values. People don't want to play competitively in 20s because their focus is on slaying noob levelers - that's all they wanna do. As soon as we joined the bracket, people stopped playing arenas because they knew they would have actual competition to play against. They could no longer smash level 24 assassination rogues with no BOAs in 100% of arenas. I get it, 20 arenas aren't the same test of skill that 120 arenas are, and taking them too seriously is kind of silly, but the teams that consistently win are still better than the teams that don't.

    Bottom line is, egos are fragile (mine no exception), and competitive game play closes the gap between a player's imagined skill and their true skill. People aren't interested in that. People are interested in feeling good about themselves and their abilities.
     

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