Interest level in p2p 20

inoobupro said:
Actually ive been 24 for around 4 months. I just dont always queue on my 24 and took awhile to get enchants/guild boas on a dead server
Your own signature contradicts what you just said. Fun for who?for you and your hpal/disc priest/whatever 2 enchanted dps you choose to go with? My pocket plays a 24 prot and i know exactly how it feels tanking out 3-4 people ..and you queue with 5.
When i queue on my horde f2ps or alliance f2ps i hope i dont meet you because you ruin games for both sides either i get carried or get furstrated unable to do anything I have no idea how to use mumble but yes id like to duel 2 of your best
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How both sad and convenient. In your mind 24s ruin all your fun. No wonder you see contradictions in my signature.

Have a couple questions though. Do you ruin your own fun when you play your 24? If you are getting carried or are ineffectual as a 20: 1. I play with and against many f2p 20s who are very effective so do you consider yourself a weaker player? 2. If you are ineffective and having your fun ruined why do you play? 3. Are you open to change?

We have been planning an event where you will get your duel.
 
Crit said:
How both sad and convenient. In your mind 24s ruin all your fun. No wonder you see contradictions in my signature.

Have a couple questions though. Do you ruin your own fun when you play your 24? If you are getting carried or are ineffectual as a 20: 1. I play with and against many f2p 20s who are very effective so do you consider yourself a weaker player? 2. If you are ineffective and having your fun ruined why do you play? 3. Are you open to change?

We have been planning an event where you will get your duel.
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Have you checked a f2ps stats compared to a p2p? There is quite a huge difference no amount of skill can save me from those dreaded enchants and professions
I only get on my 24 when im tired of healing complete fools and whatnot I play for fair teams yes i dont enjoy facerolling

Ill duel anywere just away from everyone else..any consumables anything goes.


Ikite said:
I can't speak from personal experiences playing with you/against you.....but heal botting gy campers =/= playing the objective.
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sometimes when i get on my healers and the team farms.What do you want me to do?Stay near the group and toss an occasional heal and hope they die so we can backoff or Go away and get picked off by 3-4 stealthers or those that got away and get farmed myself by the stealthers in my own GY.Yes it used to happen to me
 
Ikite said:
I can't speak from personal experiences playing with you/against you.....but heal botting gy campers =/= playing the objective.
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In the games I've encountered him, on those toons, I have yet to see him in or near the GY. Maybe mid ^_^. Maybe escorting the FC. Maybe killing EFC. But never farming in the conventional sense.

I will admit, he usually spends the entire game trash talking P2P 20s ^_^. But that is neither here nor there :)

Crit said:
How both sad and convenient. In your mind 24s ruin all your fun. No wonder you see contradictions in my signature.
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Are you being purposely obtuse? You can't fathom how someone with 1-2k more HP than F2Ps, throwing bombs, popping FAPs (or other pots) can make it unenjoyable for both teams? I know, I know, old school twinking, why twink at base of bracket, blah, blah. But you really can't see it? Stop for a second and try to consider his point of view.
 
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SallyG said:
I will admit, he usually spends the entire game trash talking P2P 20s ^_^.

Are you being purposely obtuse? You can't fathom how someone with 1-2k more HP than F2Ps, throwing bombs, popping FAPs (or other pots) can make it unenjoyable for both teams? I know, I know, old school twinking, why twink at base of bracket, blah, blah. But you really can't see it? Stop for a second and try to consider his point of view.
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So, a player who spends the entire game trash talking p2p 20s needs more consideration? :rolleyes:

Could not help myself...sorry. To your point I have been fair, honest and accurate. Of course I see the differences. Yet I know many f2ps that are having fun are effective and don't spend any time trash talking ANYONE.

I do "consider" his point of view. It makes me wonder with a point of view like that if it follows him around in other areas of life. I can and do change perspectives easily. In my secular life people pay me for that ability. Our success depends on my ability to walk around the box and see all the angles. I have seen his perspective many times. It often has them in the same spot...like they seek it out.

If something is ruining your fun move on and if you pay for it, stop paying or find something that is enjoyable. Stop blaming others. If you stay somewhere that you are not finding what you are looking for its on you.
 
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Crit said:
How so?
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You refuse to acknowledge how it gimps casters. You don't even make an argument against it, which I can understand, you just don't address it.
Crit said:
More importantly how is your comment relevant to interest in p2p 20s?
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How do the last 2-3 pages relate to interest in p2p 20s?
 
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verh said:
You refuse to acknowledge how it gimps casters. You don't even make an argument against it, which I can understand, you just don't address it.

How do the last 2-3 pages relate to interest in p2p 20s?
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What is this "it" that you allege gimps casters?

No, you tell me how the last few pages relates to the OP.
 
Crit said:
What is this "it" that you allege gimps casters?

No, you tell me how the last few pages relates to the OP.
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1 - The ridiculous +4 = skull level spell hit.

2 - NO U. (Seriously what is this I don't even.)

3 - Let's talk about P2P enchanted 20s that other 20s at least have a chance to hit in here. Thread topic and all.

I like that I can calculate in fights with P2P 20s. The high damage might burst me down, but I have a chance to time spells and CCs. I prefer that over randomly missing in an otherwise well set up fight.
 
Ohh FAP. /facepalm

I admit I thought 20 casters were gimped enough already, I completely missed verh's link and how you can make 24 casters obsolete, too! :D
 
OFF TOPIC ;

So Licholas m8 tell me...........do me and you have some sort of a problem ? since you have started with some emotes in BG's like /pity......,i thought we shared a mutual respect torwards the others skill and fairplay ....................

please don't turn into a shithead like Flipzmytoast did................

piece !
 
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I know very few P2P 20s that stick out to me and besides this one hunt that seemed to like to farm mid the first time I saw him only one person stuck out to me and that was swoops. I love trying to 1v1 him and we have probably around a 50-50 ratio against each other but when I faced the P2P 20 hunt i was completely destroyed (hunt also had disarming pet but meh). P2P 20s are just as good if not better then 90% of the 24s in this bracket as they actually have skill and dont need to crutch as much.

Edit: not trying to troll any 24s just stating what ive noticed about some P2P 20s. If you're a 24 and got affended just assume you're that 10% i wasn't talking about ;)
 
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Lillhunter said:
I know very few P2P 20s that stick out to me and besides this one hunt that seemed to like to farm mid the first time I saw him only one person stuck out to me and that was swoops. I love trying to 1v1 him and we have probably around a 50-50 ratio against each other but when I faced the P2P 20 hunt i was completely destroyed (hunt also had disarming pet but meh). P2P 20s are just as good if not better then 90% of the 24s in this bracket as they actually have skill and dont need to crutch as much.

Edit: not trying to troll any 24s just stating what ive noticed about some P2P 20s. If you're a 24 and got affended just assume you're that 10% i wasn't talking about ;)
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Liking the post because you like to kill Swoops... And because we like to kill you ^_^

Back on track now! P2P 20s can be absolutely faceroll like implied above. But they do give you a bit more oompf when fighting 24s and their premades. That and Blinka is a cool guy. I would recommend his guild if you want to dabble.
 
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