Immvp Drama Fix (suggestion)

[Allybeboba]

If my poll votes for me quitting, I'll quit. If not, then I'll do jumps.

Simple.

As.

That.

Overwhelmingly in your favor.
Only 14 votes. Where are all these players???
Could it be they are not on TI after all.... What a shocker....

 

[Shook]

I would like a link to this quote of where he admits he uses jump macros.

I was on TS when he was explaining why he uses them. Apparently Razer products have a high latency so he needs the macros to do the jumps without failing over and over.

The macro isn't the issue though. Using one just takes away from his "jumps take skill" argument.

 

[Shamatix]

I think you US guys whines way to much when you havnt faced the real aids of a flag carrier yet, be careful or we send Devm to US :^) then TI will go down cus of whine threads lol

 

[Scrubhuntin]

[MENTION=22431]Shook[/MENTION]s post ^^ done and done.


alley seriously you need therapy. how many threads/pages are there about mvp since the game opened? and do you know what a figure of speech is? bleh done with ya u are hopeless

 

[Stabilt]

Id probably give devm a US account if he wanted, to show you guys how real exploiters do it!!!!!!

 

[Donteventrii]

[MENTION=21985]Blaze[/MENTION] the poll is for "allowed jumps". A more informative poll would have been:
1) You have to request a jump be allowed before performing it.
2) Jumps are innocuous and should be banned as their impact comes to light.

 

[Allybeboba]

Many people use macros on their Nagas.
There was once a time when scroll clicking was frowned upon. Now, if you don't scroll click people bully you over that.
Believe it not there is something even faster than scroll clicking now that some would consider "cheating". It is all a matter perspective.
If you can do it, it is not cheating. If someone else can do and you are unable to, you consider it "cheating".

/cheers

 

[Scrubhuntin]

"If you can do it, it is not cheating."

brb going to download some cheats then since everybody else can too.

baffling logic.

 

[Shook]

I think you US guys whines way to much when you havnt faced the real aids of a flag carrier yet, be careful or we send Devm to US :^) then TI will go down cus of whine threads lol

Just because you guys have a bigger troll doesn't mean we have to deal with lesser trolls.

Id probably give devm a US account if he wanted, to show you guys how real exploiters do it!!!!!!

If so we could just summon Lord Barb to keep him offline for the duration of games or simply just kick him at the start? lol

 

[VAPO]

If my poll votes for me quitting, I'll quit. If not, then I'll do jumps. Simple. As. That.

It's not as simple as that. Anyone with a TI account can vote in that poll (people whom could give 2 shits about 39s).

Let's not set a precedent that when one player doesn't like a rule he/she just throws up a poll (Let me break rules OR I quit).

Sorry that you can't see "No Jumps" are for the good of the bracket.

 

[Shook]

Many people use macros on their Nagas.
There was once a time when scroll clicking was frowned upon. Now, if you don't scroll click people bully you over that.
Believe it not there is something even faster than scroll clicking now that some would consider "cheating". It is all a matter perspective.
If you can do it, it is not cheating. If someone else can do and you are unable to, you consider it "cheating".

/cheers

Macros aren't the issue...kek. Certain jumps are.

Whats faster than scrolling? Flag return scripts?

 

[Scrubhuntin]

If you don't care enough to solve massive drama like this, then why should I stop jumping?

I won't simply just stop doing jumps. Movement is what differs FCs from each other skill-wise, and without jumps I wouldn't be able to differ from others. So regardless of me being a shit FC or a good FC, the skill won't be visible. This game is heavily based on movement and position.

Something to consider.

You already are different from other fc's.. you suck, they dont.

 

[anatomyx]

Ok, why do we have another massive thread dedicated once again to the one guy causing the bracket a huge amount of issues? Not to mention this poll is probably the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Do you really think a bunch of players are gonna vote for this you to straight up quit as opposed to doing "allowed jumps"?

I'll address a point he made in the original post as well since no one has done it yet, in which he says positioning and movement are what determines a good fc. I won't disagree there, positioning and movement are extremely important, but eliminating jumps doesn't eliminate your ability to move your character. The best FCs I've ever played with/against have always been the ones who play smart and don't try to be the hero. The people who sit there trying to do their precious jumps all day are the people who are just desperate for any sort of recognition, and more often than not make horrible gameplay decisions, which is exactly what mvp has made a reputation of doing at this point.

If mvp is going to continue playing and do "allowed jumps" they need to be ONLY allowed jumps. If there's a jump we don't currently know about or haven't discussed, it is not allowed, plain and simple. That is the only reasonable way to stop this reoccurring drama because this guy has stated that he will not stop playing the way he plays. He will continue searching for new jumps and doing them every night like he has been for the past 2 months unless we outright ban new jumps too.

We have to stop this cycle of drama and things will be so much better off in this bracket, and I guarantee the only way it will stop is if we put our foot down and stop the problem child from doing whatever he pleases.

 

[VAPO]

I'll address a point he made in the original post as well since no one has done it yet, in which he says positioning and movement are what determines a good fc.

I saw that statement earlier as well but forgot to comment on it as I was distracted by the new poll question.

I agree as well, "positioning and movement are what determines a good fc". Taking all jumps out of the equation will force FCs to depend on their team more. Your team will be punished for poor decisions and so will your FC for poor movement. I believe it will make for better games and more inviting to new players trying out the bracket.

 

[Disk]

Every texture-edge-glitch jump you do is literally breaking the ToS as set out by Blizzard.

You are, quite literally, breaking the rules.

There is nothing left to discuss on the matter.

Breaking ToS by hitting space bar, welcome to World of Warcraft.

 

[Shaket]

Breaking ToS by hitting space bar, welcome to World of Warcraft.

Texture-edge-glitch.

Moron.

 

[anatomyx]

As much as I appreciate people trying to help out in the argument about jumps, let's cut the crap about X thing being against blizzard tos. People aren't gonna get banned for doing jumps in warsong, it's completely irrelevant.

The issue is that one player is doing something that a majority of the bracket does not condone, and whether it's completely legal or not under blizzards rules doesn't matter at all. Playing a feral druid is not against the tos but we banned that too.

Just stop with that bad argument, I'm obviously very anti-jumps but trying to get things banned because of the tos is not what the goal is, we are trying to get things banned to improve the quality of games, plain and simple. Bringing up the tos does nothing but cause a pointless argument that can't be won by either side.

 

[Disk]

Texture-edge-glitch.

Moron.

Well I think we know who can't do the jump.

 

[Mvq]

As much as I appreciate people trying to help out in the argument about jumps, let's cut the crap about X thing being against blizzard tos. People aren't gonna get banned for doing jumps in warsong, it's completely irrelevant.

The issue is that one player is doing something that a majority of the bracket does not condone, and whether it's completely legal or not under blizzards rules doesn't matter at all. Playing a feral druid is not against the tos but we banned that too.

Just stop with that bad argument, I'm obviously very anti-jumps but trying to get things banned because of the tos is not what the goal is, we are trying to get things banned to improve the quality of games, plain and simple. Bringing up the tos does nothing but cause a pointless argument that can't be won by either side.

Firstly, it doesn't seem like the majority is against jumps.

Secondly, it seems like the majority is against innovative jumps / not confirmed jumps. Which I can understand, as Pugs clearly are going towards the noob-friendly enviorenment.

 

[Fcftw]

he mad cus hes shit

pot, kettle etc