Hunter and feral druid weapon enchant

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  1. zazzyfraz

    zazzyfraz Member

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    Galeforce gives good CD reduction in aimed and rapid fire. You can start a rapid fire cast at the end of it and it will stay the same length whole channel too
     
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  2. ohti

    ohti Member Moderator 20s Coordinator <TF>

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    I'm not necessarily saying gale is bad, it's better than not having an enchant at all, but there are multiple superior options. I won't vouch for an average at best enchant.

    But hey, if you're using a +1 dmg scope from vanilla engineering, then consider rocking gale-force, sure.
     
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  3. Chops

    Chops Soccer Dad Moderator

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    Just flat out, +4 scope gives better dps than gale-force. Situationally, sure, we can all create theoretical scenarios we might someday find ourselves in that we would prefer faster attack speed but consistently, +4 dmg rules. Even if its on a BOA weapon.

    tbf, thats like 300 points of overkill though ;)
     
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  4. Yapah

    Yapah Member

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    Here are some numbers from my hunter: https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/bleeding-hollow/fapah
    South Gate Blunderbuss (16 agi 6.0 DPS) with Force Multiplier vs
    Naga Heartpiercer with Diamond-Cut Refractor Scope

    Both comparisons are Aimed Shot tooltips with pet summoned

    Outside BG: 628 Aimed Shot, 651Aimed shot with 8 agi 5 crit proc with epic wep
    Outside BG: 678 Aimed Shot with naga heartpiercer with +4 scope

    Inside BG: 771 Aimed Shot, 811 Aimed shot with 13 agi 8 crit proc with epic wep
    Inside BG: 818 Aimed Shot with naga heartpiercer with +5 scope

    Accurate Scope (+2 scope in bg) might be worth testing on an epic 16 agi wep, but I doubt its better than +5 scope

    You’re welcome idiots
     
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  5. Xenogard

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    @Yapah, thank you ! this is extremely interesting.
    I have just subbed my trial account (with XP locked) and started doing enchants.
    I was hesitating between farming the Naga Heartpiercer and finding someone to help me add the scope or simply keeping Force Multiplier on my [Epic] Argus Crossbow (+16 agi +16 stamina).

    Good to know that the scope is overall better ! However currently too poor to afford someone for the trade :(
     
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  6. Chey

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    I said “educated” not uneducated. He speaks well and constructive IE not an idiot. My point was that he was trolling.

    Both Ohti and Zazz clearly explained his questions directly above his post. There was nothing more to add that was not repeating those posts.

    Perhaps I was taking for granted common knowledge I have about twinking and then in that case I apologize @Xenogard the comment was out of character for me as I am usually more than willing to help.
     
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  7. Lil

    Lil SV huntard

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    Back in my day I crit for 3000.

    Only took beserking, saltwater, 15 stacks and an undergeared mage
     
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  8. Greenmtnboy

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    People using the scope are pathetic and most likely sit on the fence in goldshire waiting for someone to comment on their gear.

    Most of you live and die by that enchant. It’s hilarious.
     
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  9. Chey

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    You know you can put it on a BOA right? The difference between that and the glitched dungeon weapon will not be anything to noticeable.

    I can’t see why you wouldn’t use it.
     
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    And there is me , f2p farming Gnomergan for +2 scope.......
     
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  11. ohti

    ohti Member Moderator 20s Coordinator <TF>

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    It's BiS and effortless to put in an heirloom. Are you going to start hating on rogues for using elemental force? A warrior for using crusader? My priest for using +9 spell power? Why...?

    Weird take, man.

    (also, MM did absolutely fine and was still top tier before +4 scope so saying that they live and die by that enchant now is ironically, using your own words, hilarious.)
     
  12. Arkant

    Arkant Freedom~

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    Pretty bad comparison since none of those enchants are currently bugged.
     
  13. Chops

    Chops Soccer Dad Moderator

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    crusader is absolutely bugged...
     
  14. Arkant

    Arkant Freedom~

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    In what way is that?
     
  15. Chops

    Chops Soccer Dad Moderator

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    tooltip indicates its supposed to scale. It does not.
     
  16. ohti

    ohti Member Moderator 20s Coordinator <TF>

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    Hasn't sader been bugged for like a decade now?

    el oh el
     
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  17. Arkant

    Arkant Freedom~

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    Crusader is fair then, the rest is still bullshit.
     
  18. ohti

    ohti Member Moderator 20s Coordinator <TF>

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    I'm comparing BiS enchants, not what's bugged. If Green was specifically talking about the fact that they're bugged why didn't he bring up feral? Feral crutches (quite literally solely depends) on superior impact, without it it's an under average spec. Saying MM lives or dies by that enchant is what's bullshit.

    Y'all acting like MM was bad before scope. It was still top tier, nothing has changed.

    I'd MUCH rather get aimed shot by a hunter with +4 scope than a pre-incend ammo nerf hunter aimed shotting me and then proccing 800-1000~ additional damage on top of said aimed shot. Have we forgotten about that?
     
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  19. Greenmtnboy

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    I’m only talking about that 1 enchant and that alone. How many of those other enchants that you mentioned do you have to use a bug against tos?
    Real question.
    --- Double Post Merged, Aug 29, 2020, Original Post Date: Aug 29, 2020 ---
    Very few elite hunters that I have met use this scope and they still rip apart all the other hunters with that scope on the naga. That’s what I mean. Now you see every hunter using that scope and most are fighting against f2ps.
     
  20. Chops

    Chops Soccer Dad Moderator

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    scope on a boa works just fine. calm your tits
     
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