Hunter and feral druid weapon enchant

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  1. Xenogard

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    Hi !
    Many thanks for your swift responses.
    However, I'm just not certain of 3 things:

    1°) Practically speaking, how does this "trade glitch" work ? Why do I need to pay someone to do it ? If there's an existing thread that explains in details all the step-by-step, please do not hesitate to directly redict me to it.

    2°) How can a mere +4 damage scope be that good ? I've seen some comments about it but has there been any video/guide explaining concretely how it can be that good ?

    3°) Why wouldn't I be able to add a +4 damage scope from my main to my twink directly ? I do not see any restrictions on the item scope ?

    Thank you very much for the guidance !
     
  2. zazzyfraz

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    1 this is the exact method. Imagine he is casting the scope instead of the belt

    2 it seems to scale to its full power or something (+13 weapon damage) regardless of level, similar to crusader. It’s very strong for those 5 pets of dmg, too strong maybe?

    3 https://www.wowhead.com/item=44739/diamond-cut-refractor-scope because it requires level 70 to apply you’ll need a friend/2nd account
     
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  3. Xenogard

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    Hi Zazzyfraz,

    Many thanks for the very instructive information.
    I do possess a sub'd account and my twink is currently on a F2P account that I intend to transform into vet (for enchant & professions).

    As a conclusion, can I assume that enchanting my weapon with Diamond-Cut Refractor Scope is currently the best ranged-weapon enhancement ?

    Best regards and thank you again.
     
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  4. Chey

    Chey Grandfathered

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    A. You are an educated idiot.
    B. You are an awesome troll.

    If A then I have no idea how many more times or how many more ways it can be explained as yes +4=best. However if B then can I suggest using a strength stat polearm for MM with fiery enchant and calling it a day?
     
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  5. Xenogard

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    Hey, no need to be rude about it.
    I'd say I am an educated idiot according to your saying then.
    All this twink world is quite new to me and I haven't played WoW in general for a while so there is a lot of catching up to do.
    Sorry if all my questions sounded annoying - I just thought I could get some help on this thread.
     
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  6. Sketchbag

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    Great way to represent the community to a new comer... since we're on the topic of idiots that post is pretty idiotic as well.

    Don't be sorry AT ALL that user was once an uneducated idiot. Welcome to the site. +4 scope isn't mandatory. Sadly it is considered bis. I out perform players with that scope ALL THE TIME. If you can't find someone to trade-exploit use Gale-Force... Good luck!
     
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  7. ohti

    ohti Member Moderator 20s Coordinator <TF>

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    Heirloom with scope is still far superior to any BoP option and doesn't require trade glitch.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jul 13, 2020, Original Post Date: Jul 13, 2020 ---
    If you MUST use a BoP, force multiplier is better than gale-force.
     
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  8. Sketchbag

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    Prove it, lol. How is a small amount of agi better then 15% haste when the majority of dps from both ranged specs is autoshot.
     
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  9. zazzyfraz

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    Does one proc more? NERDS btw!1
     
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  10. ohti

    ohti Member Moderator 20s Coordinator <TF>

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    If you're not playing MM for 1k aimed shots you're probably playing it wrong.

    The tooltip might say +4 but it scales as if you're a level 80, it literally blows every other enchant out of the water.
     
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    mine do hit for 1k and i use gale-force for the record
     
  12. ohti

    ohti Member Moderator 20s Coordinator <TF>

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    1k is rookie numbers for the sake of being relatable to every hunter, you should be pushing 1500+ actually.
     
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    id like to see a screen shot of 1500 aimed shots, lol. on a player*
     
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    This seems to have been glanced over in favor of arguing but be careful with this as you could bunk your twink. F2P accounts gather banked xp up to level 30 so your twink could ding as soon as you log in after adding time to the account
     
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    ohti Member Moderator 20s Coordinator <TF>

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    2.1k (2).png
    2.1k, courtesy of Walder.

    This is under certain circumstances but our guild hunter atm, Resil, consistently hits 1600+.

    Really, consistent 1500s is not an unrealistic goal to reach.
     
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  17. Sketchbag

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    Jeez. I think i know how he got it that high but wtf. Looks like i gotta try this before the end of BFA ffs. TYVM for showing me, i never would have believed it otherwise. I was aware of the enchant, it being broken but not like that. Even with my rather small sample size of BGs i figured I'd see more players with it pumping those kinds of numbers but I haven't yet. Ugh my sub just ran out too fml

    @Xenogard looks like we'll both be working towards this now hey, haha... !>.<!
     
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  18. Xenogard

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    Hi all ! Thank you so much for the all the information and support ! Will put all this new knowledge to good use ! :)
     
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  19. zazzyfraz

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    Resil crits my shaman with saltwater for 1400, you guys are farming undergeared clothies too much.. I could talk about how I hit a 600 main hand stormstrke crits on clothie levelers on my enh shaman and make it seem OP and awesome to play against real geared toons. Resil also has 1500 hp or less in his set, usually. Walder has gear sets but he drops very low hp too.

    yes the enchant is bis but its not gonna make your toon instant 1shot machine
     
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  20. ohti

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    So actually I'll get into it I guess.

    MM is almost essential for coordinating burst. If your group has smart players in it (or just players that synergize with you well in general) they will make a huge effort to coordinate their damage to your aimed shots to string huge damage all at once that hopefully secures a kill.

    Let's assume you're running gale and are putting out faster, yet slightly less lethal damage, not only are you sacrificing 13 odd agi (assuming you're using force multiplier on a bop, which you shouldnt be but for the sake of the arguement let's say you are using it) but you're also outputting the shots faster, making it harder for your team to react to and coordinate their damage with you in time. If you're using force multiplier your team mates have more time to react and assuming your proc is up your aimes shot will hit even harder to hopefully kill.

    The only reason you'd want faster shots is if a melee rly wants to stun you, which they should be on your healers anyways, not you. The only real thing the enemy can do to prepare for your shot is to bubble and pre heal your target (assuming you're not using a focus shot target call macro, which you should also be using)

    Because force multiplier is a proc it's inferior to scope not only in damage output but uptime, scope is a huge static damage increase that has 0 downtime.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jul 13, 2020, Original Post Date: Jul 13, 2020 ---
    It will if you're qing with a smart team...
     
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