Huntard Discussion: Survival vs. Beastmastery- PUGing

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You are more fucking stubborn then me. This whole time in the thread you have resulted to name calling and insulting people or snarky comments who don't think the same exact thing as you without even taking into consideration what anyone was saying. Guess what? No1 has said they are a hunter god and I've seen your hunt and you aren't either. You are the only one insulting other people and anyone who disagrees with you you automatically argue and insult. It's nice to know you can't have a discussion where everyone doesn't just bow down and agree with you without insulting other people.

Get off your damn high horse and stop trolling or stop thinking you know everything about everything. I'm done in this thread. I have had over 5 people say the same exact thing I have on MULTIPLE topics but all of us must be morons and you are the only good person arguing obviously.
 
Calm down. I don't either want to delete any posts or want to lock this thread. From now on: act a bit more civilized and stop the name-calling.

You're all bad anyway!

Get at me.
 
It's very interesting to be a neutral party in this conversation and to be able to see both sides. I'm with bigdip; I think both specs have their purpose, and I think both proponents of each spec in this thread have made their case well. It's something that I personally would have to try for myself to see which works best for me personally. I don't think it can be said that either is better than the other in all situations. And I do also agree that player skill and combat awareness play a much more significant role than the spec does.
 
my partner in crime rolled BM+Bat 5.0+ and never looked back. And he is a terrible hunter(at least he says so) but says it helps to win.

Lets think when a stun HASNT ever been useful even when its on a DR?.
All up to you but Id go BM and a bat pet.
 
my partner in crime rolled BM+Bat 5.0+ and never looked back. And he is a terrible hunter(at least he says so) but says it helps to win.

Lets think when a stun HASNT ever been useful even when its on a DR?.
All up to you but Id go BM and a bat pet.

Another thing worth discussing, if you are going to go BM which pet should one use, and if you are goign to roll Survival which pet should you use?
 
Mialu, If I report you, can you give yourself an infraction? I think you hurt my feelings worse than Lil did.
BM's can't hand out infractions :(

Note to self: Give Url an infraction once you get infractionpriviliges.
 
seems no one in this thread wants help, they just want people to agree with them. so i'm just gonna write some random crap you guys can tell me i'm wrong about...

BM only as one cc more than SV and MM

sonic blast DR's with intimidation, sting doesn't (one's range one's melee)

BM does more dps on a static target than SV. WoW Hunter Guides & Entertainment - Warcraft Hunters Union

KC cant be dodged, ES can.

ES is dispelable.
 
If you have a paladin/warrior with you, survival is better. BM will DR the superior stuns from warbringer and HoJ. Seeing as those are both extremely common right now, I think SV fits better. I have no idea how you find this illogical. I've already tried to let it go, but you keep pressing the issue. Neither of us are going to back down, so drop it. I'm done discussing this with you.

Because much CC is worse than little CC? That is indeed very illogical.
 
Because much CC is worse than little CC? That is indeed very illogical.

this^^ and random paladins are always stunning the right target.... as soon as they stop screaming jajajaja
 
seems no one in this thread wants help, they just want people to agree with them. so i'm just gonna write some random crap you guys can tell me i'm wrong about...

BM only as one cc more than SV and MM

sonic blast DR's with intimidation, sting doesn't (one's range one's melee)

BM does more dps on a static target than SV. WoW Hunter Guides & Entertainment - Warcraft Hunters Union

KC cant be dodged, ES can.

ES is dispelable.

I can tell you that you're wrong about number 3. at 90, sure... 20? Not a chance. SV DPS blows BM out of the water. Your reference is completely irrelevant.

Because much CC is worse than little CC? That is indeed very illogical.

In your personal experience, you have had success with BM. In my personal experience, I have had success with SV. I know exactly how you want to argue. You'll take things out of context, and try to twist them to make a point, while avoiding the bigger picture of what I'm trying to present to you. It might work on some people, but I'm not buying into it. My entire point that I have been trying to get through your skull, is that this bracket has an abundance of paladins, warriors, and rogues, who all bring their own CC to the table. While you may not rely on teammates coordinating with you and vice versa, I believe that survival offers more potential in a team environment where they can safely sacrifice their CC for extra damage. And believe it or not, it works for me. If you weren't so snide and elitist about the quality of your teammates, you might be able to understand what I'm saying.

Or maybe you do understand, and you just want to argue your point, and incite further drama.
 
I can tell you that you're wrong about number 3. at 90, sure... 20? Not a chance. SV DPS blows BM out of the water. Your reference is completely irrelevant.

you can tell me w/e you like. don't mean i'm gonna believe it :)
 
I thought I was learning a whole bunch of stuff while reading this thread, then everyone started disagreeing with each other, now I don't know what to think :p

I recently changed to BM, and very quickly wanted to change back to Surv.. I am too used to the play-style of Survival, and I didn't like having to replace Explosive Shot (40 yd range/25 focus) with Kill Command (pet 25 yd range/40 focus) . I would have to change from a style I enjoy, to one which I wasn't getting on with, just for this extra 1m stun.. I didn't see it was worth it.

Maybe one spec is better than the other in a number of situations, but one spec is not better in ALL situations; it comes down to preference.

I do still think i've learnt a lot from this thread, so thanks for all the constructive comments. :D
 
I thought I was learning a whole bunch of stuff while reading this thread, then everyone started disagreeing with each other, now I don't know what to think :p

I recently changed to BM, and very quickly wanted to change back to Surv.. I am too used to the play-style of Survival, and I didn't like having to replace Explosive Shot (40 yd range/25 focus) with Kill Command (pet 25 yd range/40 focus) . I would have to change from a style I enjoy, to one which I wasn't getting on with, just for this extra 1m stun.. I didn't see it was worth it.

Maybe one spec is better than the other in a number of situations, but one spec is not better in ALL situations; it comes down to preference.

I do still think i've learnt a lot from this thread, so thanks for all the constructive comments. :D

While specced BM, I would not recommend using kill command. Just use your arcane shot.
 
I recently changed to BM, and very quickly wanted to change back to Surv.. I am too used to the play-style of Survival, and I didn't like having to replace Explosive Shot (40 yd range/25 focus) with Kill Command (pet 25 yd range/40 focus) . I would have to change from a style I enjoy, to one which I wasn't getting on with, just for this extra 1m stun.. I didn't see it was worth it.

KC isn't a move that BM should be using much.. For the focus Arcane shot +serpent sting is better dmg wise by far. I find myself only using KC like 10 times at most in bgs and that is only for instant gap closers for pet CC
 
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