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Yeh there are some people whining about how it's unfair that getting P2P enchants on a F2P character, and how it's so unbalanced. Moral of the story: suck it up.
Obvious bias in this summation
Yeh there are some people whining about how it's unfair that getting P2P enchants on a F2P character, and how it's so unbalanced. Moral of the story: suck it up.
Ahh I figured as much... Just kale P2P boa thread 2.0 basically..
Can't beat 'em, join 'em
vs.
Why bother, we're better
I'd hope group 2 would win but just reading the first and last page and seeing the people posting as of late I'm pretty sure group 1 did.
so let me get my head around this... it's fine to have these enchants on f2ps, just not on p2p20s or 24s?
frankly, this thread proves what i always knew. 90% of f2p's would be 24 if they wasn't so greedy.
Lol this is getting wayyy out of hand. It won't matter how many chants you got, you'll never win against me haha. So get your p2p chants and bring it on, afterall you need it to even try to be in my league
I've seen lots of people complain about 24s and then once they upgrade... they roll 24s. The thing they supposedly hated. This is just being apart of the problem. Fighting fire with fire, which is your choice but I don't agree with it
You will all end up just like the other 24's who can't play the game well so decide to play the lower level bracket to steam roll on new players (free to play - trial account), and like the current 24's you will not be respected and steam rolled by F2P's who can actually play and don't need these shitty advantages.
So for anyone who has ranted against 24s before and is now in support of this, you did indeed demonstrate that it really is just the money holding you back. Well, I'm glad to see there are still quite a few people not interested in changing their tune at the drop of a hat.
The issue here is that doing anything that gives an advantage - when competing against those who are restricting themselves solely to the use of an F2P account - which cannot be gained in any way except through the assistance of a payed character, is very clearly pay to win.
Becasue of that this topic has no business being in the free to play section, and should be moved to 20-24.
Hearing you talk makes you look like Lil. Truly nothing against her, I even admire her effort put into this forum and the bracket, but being unable to take 1 or 2 posts of sarcasm on a forum with all kinds of people makes you look like your standards are so fucking high up your arse that it hurts my brain. attitudes have changed too much since F2P started in 2011, most people are talking 100% finest bullshit 24/7. Twinkinfo has deteriorated a lot...
Now in my defense I just got tired of hearing hunt bashing and relatively harsh insults (which alot of non hunters did and ALOT of people would have if it was directed towards their favorite class).. Xao is just stupid so please don't classify him as like me, pretty big insult to me
Just a few quotes I agree withYes. This is a fairly 2-dimensional issue. It's one of many smaller 2-dimensional issues stemming from these 2 schools of thought, where fewer of us agree even still. Don't even get us started on wall jumps and really, really don't get us going on tournament rules. At the end of all the issues added up you'll find it's a lot less 2-dimensional here than how obviously 2-dimensional a single forum topic can be.
Now in my defense I just got tired of hearing hunt bashing and relatively harsh insults (which alot of non hunters did and ALOT of people would have if it was directed towards their favorite class).. Xao is just stupid so please don't classify him as like me, pretty big insult to me
We can possibly get p2p chants now
Yeah but that's against the spirit
No it's not because I'm a f2p with p2p
Yeah but no you
Nuh uh you're a meaner face
Yeah we'll you're white.
YOU TAKE THAT BACK
No because its true
Yeah we'll your ears are small
Way to cross the line man
I'm sorry I didn't mean it
It's too late for that now
Sadface
I don't understand the whole point. kale did it because "haha! eff-you I got stuffs you don't". which I can actually understand since he beat you guys by like 2 months.
but paying for a sub, rolling a trial, and sending P2P gear to said trial account makes no sense after this thread. why not just upgrade it? why are you working so hard for stuff you can easily have? publicizing this not only ruined the whole niche but nobody would believe you are a trial anyway unless you are "TI famous". they would just think you are P2P with shitty achives and, therefore, lame.
cyber-masochism must be a mofo.....
Well this thread has turned into an absolute abomination
We choose to be f2p for lots of reasons.. whether we are poor.. or we just like the challenge. It doesn't matter. This is an f2p addon, so follow f2p rules if you need it. There can be no p2p enchants/involvements whatsoever I think it's clear to 90% and to the other 10% here is the door go play 24 -------> [ ] .
There has to be a reason why? right?
[MENTION=385]iaccidentallytwink[/MENTION]ed [MENTION=5871]Mialo[/MENTION] [MENTION=7986]Livingforce[/MENTION] [MENTION=2306]threesets[/MENTION]Imo I haven't seen much moderating on this section done besides by yde and she's been really busy as of late. Val seems pretty quick on the lock/delete finger which can certainly be helpful at times but needs to know when. Silin is still creeping around I guess since a few posts were deleted from the confessions but normally isn't very talkative.. Kinda tough to tell when he's around or not cuz he normally never posts lol. Think I've seen more PMs from him/her saying my post was deleted then I ever have seeing him post.
Unless I'm missing someone val/silin/yde/shane are the main/(only?) mods here so it's pretty tough to catch a blatantly obvious thread like this quickly all the time. Also you have to realize that yde is the main mod here and she was absent during the whole last kale P2P boas so she may not have seen it to know this is just kale p2p boa 2.0. Hopefully soon shane will do another moderating thingy and we can get like 5 people for this section and 3 for the 19s and maybe 3 split up for the rest of the site.. The amount of trash on this section is just too much for 3 active mods let alone 3 half afk ones.
Edit: Ohhh and [MENTION=1552]Kilda[/MENTION]! D: Sry I forgot you lmao... Jeez like all our mods on this site are lurkers.. Are there more hidden mods no1 knows about? xD
Imo I haven't seen much moderating on this section done besides by yde and she's been really busy as of late. Val seems pretty quick on the lock/delete finger which can certainly be helpful at times but needs to know when. Silin is still creeping around I guess since a few posts were deleted from the confessions but normally isn't very talkative.. Kinda tough to tell when he's around or not cuz he normally never posts lol. Think I've seen more PMs from him/her saying my post was deleted then I ever have seeing him post.
Unless I'm missing someone val/silin/yde/shane are the main/(only?) mods here so it's pretty tough to catch a blatantly obvious thread like this quickly all the time. Also you have to realize that yde is the main mod here and she was absent during the whole last kale P2P boas so she may not have seen it to know this is just kale p2p boa 2.0. Hopefully soon shane will do another moderating thingy and we can get like 5 people for this section and 3 for the 19s and maybe 3 split up for the rest of the site.. The amount of trash on this section is just too much for 3 active mods let alone 3 half afk ones.
Edit: Ohhh and Kilda! D: Sry I forgot you lmao... Jeez like all our mods on this site are lurkers.. Are there more hidden mods no1 knows about? xD
[MENTION=385]iaccidentallytwink[/MENTION]ed [MENTION=5871]Mialo[/MENTION] [MENTION=7986]Livingforce[/MENTION] [MENTION=2306]threesets[/MENTION]
I think "shitstorm" is pretty loosely thrown around. People see an argument/discussion and react negatively to it, as if it were a dark cloud hanging over a thread.
Regardless as to who's right and who's wrong, who the majority sides with, or who's winning, it's just a debate and more things like this should be encouraged if anything. Sure things get heated but not enough to fracture the community I wouldn't think. I hold no ill will towards anyone. There are things everyone on both sides could have done differently but for the most part we know where we all stand. That's not really a bad thing.
We broke ground > moved forward > and now we're over it. The situation handled it's self without a moderator stepping in. Everything that needed to be said was said along with some things that didn't, but that's the price of being a part of a community.
Happy twinking~
Edit:
Mrcer is a moderator too, I saw him on twice earlier, but he was lurking a bit I think.