Hi, Im Khaos and I have a message

[Ridwane]

Added mid presence , I think the expantion of MoP added this with the enchants.. its like saying a new game is released and your the first to buy it and your the orginal the others just copy/follow you
or do you mean that you guys added skype chat combined with wow teamwork into the game?

Your answer show your ignorance. We implemented mid game in cata not in MOP.

Cata implemented RBG with vocal we werent the first, we also use vocal for dungeons farm are we PVE heroes ? No. We also use vocal for discovering new paths for herbalism or skinning, are we AH farmers no, we use vocal to talk about girls and real life stuff, are we eharmony ? No. You didn't get my post. I do believe you will never get til you will drop your hate toward my guild tag.

 

[saxxon]

group que, 19s have a competitive atmosphere most games, SO COMPETE!!!

 

[Ridwane]

They were the first to do it on 5 fotm classes to steam roll pugs ;P

Danny finn, will you stop troll one day ?

 

[Kiri]

If you are trying to make some benevolent point about elitism then you should not bunch a group of individuals who happen to play under one guildname together like a single organism, to label them all as douches is also crossing the line and you just make yourself look silly.

It is no coincidence that the QQ about guilds usually come from people who on a regular basis take a beating. Since you fail to address these "douches"(as you refer to them as) on the battlefield you must attack them somewhere else. It is indeed reverse elitism that is the issue, less than average people complaining and discouraging people from improving and getting better, pointing out the best and strongest players/guilds as the bogeyman when they instead should be looked up to and approached for advice.


I see an equal amount of bad players as good who are rude and disrespectful on a regular basis so claiming that only the good players do it is beyond stupid. Also we have to distinguish between just plain nastiness and "rude" criticism that is said for a reason. It is common among lesser players that they regard any comments about their playstyle as "offensive" instead of either challenging the comment or agree and improve. It is a way to feel safe inside their little bubble.

TLDR: The reversed elitism has got to stop, you should cherish and encourage the stronger players of the bracket not the other way around.

Why so defensive, and would you pls stop your QQ, its getting tedious by now.
We know your opinion, and your attitude against ppl working towards a better bracket, Why try and destroy it? You don't want to be playing 19s again ?

 

[Solipsist]

They were the first to do it on 5 fotm classes to steam roll pugs ;P

So...

Paladin
Shaman
Hunter
Druid
Mage
Monk
Warrior
Warlock
Priest

are all Fotm classes TL use to run?

So what I'm getting out of this is that running rogues are the only legitimate way to vs pugs?

 

[Solipsist]

Why so defensive, and would you pls stop your QQ, its getting tedious by now.
We know your opinion, and your attitude against ppl working towards a better bracket, Why try and destroy it? You don't want to be playing 19s again ?

Isn't he talking about people ''QQ'ing'' or can I not read?

''People working towards a better bracket''? What does that even mean...

 

[Bung]

Your answer show your ignorance. We implemented mid game in cata not in MOP.

Cata implemented RBG with vocal we werent the first, we also use vocal for dungeons farm are we PVE heroes ? No. We also use vocal for discovering new paths for herbalism or skinning, are we AH farmers no, we use vocal to talk about girls and real life stuff, are we eharmony ? No. You didn't get my post. I do believe you will never get til you will drop your hate toward my guild tag.

Excuse me I am now ignorant for asking a question about something I found confusing. I didnt mean you to interpret it in a bad way. Also cata was not simular to todays mid presence atleast I didnt notice it this extreme before MoP.
I have no hate towards you guild tag.. why would you make an accusation like that?

 

[Kiri]

You are only getting down on people who happen to play in competitive guilds, there is no mention of all the bad players and how equal their behavior and rudeness is. So yes you are in fact singling out the stronger players and claiming that they are all alike, that they are all douchebags and rude elitists while in fact it is just as prevalent if not more among the lower caliber players.

"A guild is a group of players who support one another, if they do not agree/support the actions of the 90% of the other guild then why be a part of it." Look right there, you are claiming that 90% of the top guilds are elitist which in your mind equates to being rude and a douchebag. Either your view of elitism is severely skewed or you are once again putting people together as a single organism.
And I think you fail to understand why the people are in said guild and underestimate the amount of players that constantly stream in asking to join the top guilds, there are constant requests from new twinks to join said guilds so they must be doing something right?

"So in no way, just because people are more skilled in a game, do they have the right to be disrespectful to fellow twinks." WHERE HAVE I SAID THAT?! I say the issue is not with how skilled a person is, he can be Michael Jordan or your 5 ft 2 Malaysian guy who has never held a basketball before, both persons can be a "douchebag" yet you ONLY concern yourself with the top.

Also a quick comment on your point about encouraging "fun" games, this is often where stronger players and weaker ones collide as 1 group wants to have competitive games where you actually have to play close to top of your own level, where you can feel improvement, while 1 group wants to be able to parade in midfield showing off the latest transmog gear while smelling the flowers, shunning all thoughts about effective strategy's and instead go back to memory land of patch(insert whatever vanilla,tbc or wotlk patch) where you could do magical O and D or wear fishing hat as a rogue.

its ok mejt, We all fear the elitism of undergeared, solo Q'ing, new comers.. /pat

 

[Kiri]

And you are asking for respect?

Thanks for the laugh.

Just because you do not understand the concept, don't give you the right to laugh at it mejt

 

[Kiri]

Your answer show your ignorance. We implemented mid game in cata not in MOP.

Cata implemented RBG with vocal we werent the first, we also use vocal for dungeons farm are we PVE heroes ? No. We also use vocal for discovering new paths for herbalism or skinning, are we AH farmers no, we use vocal to talk about girls and real life stuff, are we eharmony ? No. You didn't get my post. I do believe you will never get til you will drop your hate toward my guild tag.

Stop talking about hate in a video game, that's uncalled for and obnoxious, and tbh nobody cares enough about you or your kindergarten crew, to hate you.

 

[Kiri]

Isn't he talking about people ''QQ'ing'' or can I not read?

''People working towards a better bracket''? What does that even mean...

Sorry if it is to hard for you to understand, I'll get my 10year old sis to reply to you in the future, you would prob have a better chance understanding her

 

[The Saint]

This.

The ''elitists'' have given competitive games/premades/drama which has increased activity as a whole. ''No'' elitists in the bracket, or how some of you put them as ''douchebags'' equals an uncompetitive bracket that no one wants to play. The competive nature i.e people shit talking each other is a faster epidemic towards a competitive atmosphere then ''lets all live in a fairy wonderland with Unicorns skipping around and be nice to everyone''. 19s have never worked like that and can't strive without that ''competitive nature vibe''.

you started playing in cata didn't you...

Nice post op, but I'm afraid you're trying to give the kiss of life to roast beef. 19s are dead.

 

[Trialdruid]

rofl it's funny cuz we are the one being disrespectful toward the level of play, and alliance who can't even found something bad about our gameplay started to troll origins, bad english and in real life apparence. Players who were "original" back in the day didn't really wanted to win no matter the price apparently, they worked alone, for their own abilities without caring about the 9 others guys playing with him, mid presence require to work as a group, which is a good thing for the bracket, if everyone was "original", game would happen ToT and everyone would take the flag. and it's funny about the part staying mid and only frag for 20 mins, cuz when TL do it, it's 3-0 after 10 mins, but when alliance do it it's usually 0-0 or 1-1. Strafing make you an "original" player ? Let me laugh, everyone was copying thoses straffers, where is the "originality" when everyone copy you, you guys played O and D, everyone played that meta back in the day til someone show up with something bigger, how is that "original", you guys learned some sicks jumps ToT, others followed how is that "original", you should use another word.

Otherwise, TL is "original" cuz we added mid presence to this bracket.

Damm i just wrote you super profound message that was many chapters long where we kiss and make up but my browser deleted it, you have some disagreements and I have some disagreements but we can make it work, lets just leave it at that

now i'm late from my sister's prom-dance-thingy

Tc man

 

[Dorigon]

Finally turning in to the whiny back-and-forth EU thread that every thread of this type seems to turn in to.

 

[Hurrx]

spoken like a true profit

 

[Khaos]

Not sure why I'm even bothering to post. Guess I want to get some things off my chest.

~SNIP~

This post is genuinely truthful and from the heart. Some of you might think it is superficial or just my ‘forum persona’ or whatever, and that’s bothersome to me, but it’s just me being me.

100% respect towards this post Pizza, as another player has pointed out not everyone in a single guild has been at fault and I apologized for lumping them all up into a single group, I will be the first to agree you lead your guild well on the skill level, you hold skill to high regards and I respect that.

Even before your guild stopped queuing the games were scarce...Myrm had to convince me to log over from my main when underground was supposed to premade SR that last night before you guys stopped queuing because games were barely happening or the games were so one sided that it wasn't worth the wait in queue, and I know of at least 5 other twinks that were doing the same thing. I do admit after your guild stopped queuing horde went even more scarce to the point of the games not happening at all, but that is because when you guys stopped queuing that was 5-7 19s not queuing in a bracket that is already lacking.

Now the only problem I have your whole post is where you state I am being disrespectful. Because I state people need to calm down, or in the heat of the moment when I wrote that I stated people need to chill and get some sort of social life, because in the end it is just a game. But the truth is just that, people need to calm down about a game, whether they need to spend less time on the game because it is becoming to serious that they feel the need to bash other players for not competing on a higher level. I worded what I said poorly but if anyone is taking a game so serious, I cannot see how it could be fun, and in the end of it all, that is what a game is about, having fun.

 

[Yîng]

Nice one well said.

Love the avatar dude!! Off topic oh well.

 

[Jadyne]

Ok, can you like not talk to me anymore you old fart. I'm starting to get a bit worried about your stalking. It's not healthy ya know.



More like 10 but you should know since you were there.

"Old fart" - That's a pretty good riposte, since I'm pretty sure no one here knows my age, and I am probably a little over the average. Plus, it's a bit creative, since most people call each other younger, not older as an insult in these situations.

"Stalking" - Too predictable. You're not going to get under anyone's skin with an insult as typical as that. =/ Of course I'm stalking you, I don't have a life, and who better to stalk than THE ONE TRUE KING? Lol.

Isn't he talking about people ''QQ'ing'' or can I not read?

''People working towards a better bracket''? What does that even mean...

Well, at least you're admitting you don't know. He's talking about building and strengthening community. To most people that's pretty abstract though, so it's going over the heads of probably 95% of the people in this thread. =/

 

[Mocha]

"Old fart" - That's a pretty good riposte, since I'm pretty sure no one here knows my age, and I am probably a little over the average. Plus, it's a bit creative, since most people call each other younger, not older as an insult in these situations.

"Stalking" - Too predictable. You're not going to get under anyone's skin with an insult as typical as that. =/ Of course I'm stalking you, I don't have a life, and who better to stalk than THE ONE TRUE KING? Lol.



Well, at least you're admitting you don't know. He's talking about building and strengthening community. To most people that's pretty abstract though, so it's going over the heads of probably 95% of the people in this thread. =/

+10 points Gryffindor

Kidding.

The below post is unrelated to the quote:
Just wanted to point out that someone mentioned how competitive gameplay benefits TI by making it active.

I personally don't agree. Without this deathly high level of competitiveness (otherwise known as the complete disregard for others) "Be godly or eat $***" we would actually be able to have a constructive thread, and many of them at that and I know that we wouldn't have a hard time organizing events.

Like I said, competition is healthy and drives interest… Sure…. But it should only be valued after a strong foundation of activity is established.

Competition shouldn't even be in the equation until we have a healthy community with constant pops….

In what community is competition more important than activity? Oh wait! I know!!!! A dead one.

Game on.


And let's please drop the back and forth insults. It's okay to disagree respectfully (wow there's that word again… hm maybe it's important? Nah! GET PWNT NOOB) but it isn't okay to disagree and call them a __(Insert_commonly_used_insult_here)___

 

[Solipsist]

"Stalking" - Too predictable. You're not going to get under anyone's skin with an insult as typical as that. =/ Of course I'm stalking you, I don't have a life, and who better to stalk than THE ONE TRUE KING? Lol

Good. The first step to recovery is to admit the you have a problem. For some people that's the hardest step, but it seems you overcome it. I'll link you the rest of the steps How to Stop Stalking | eHow

''Stalking can take up a lot of time and you may find that once you stop stalking you aren't really sure what to do with your time. Try to find something productive to do that will keep you busy and won't allow you the time necessary in order to stalk the object of your affection.''


Good luck!

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Well, at least you're admitting you don't know. He's talking about building and strengthening community. To most people that's pretty abstract though, so it's going over the heads of probably 95% of the people in this thread. =/

See Kiri said that Nicozy was ''QQ'ing'' when in fact he was talking about people ''QQ'ing'' about beatings they take from certain guilds. To most people that's pretty abstract though, so it's going over the heads of probably 95% of the people in this thread.