Hi, Im Khaos and I have a message

[Dorigon]

Good point, especially with so many people posting so quickly. I'm finding I simply don't have the time to read everything. I'm having to skim. =/

I suppose we could just ignore the people who are obviously just being obnoxious?

i mean, all the posts are actually pretty pointless

just a lot of finger pointing among equally guilty parties

 

[telle]

OH MY GOD I DON'T CARE - charlie screams - it's always sunny in philadelphia iasip - YouTube

 

[Jadyne]

i mean, all the posts are actually pretty pointless

just a lot of finger pointing among equally guilty parties

Well, of course everyone is guilty at this point. That's why I pointed out that nice sentiments are almost worth it. It's putting in the time and the work that would make things improve.

 

[Razzerz]

Nice one well said.

 

[Bung]

Khaos not everyone was raised that way, some were raised by machines (not literally, but u get the point)
We are living in 2014, most people in wow grew up in front of a screen. They probably picked up their bad language and bad attitude on the internet, so this is where they mostly use it.
This is a global change or you could put it like this:

putting people together as a single organism. (Taken out of context )

Organism's do change form out from their environment/surroundings.

Generation touch screen is around the corner, they will probably pick up their first word from their pad hehe

 

[Solipsist]

19s popping now, who cares, log on

 

[Jetlife]

I don't make a habit of calling out individuals, but in my brief little return to the 19 bracket, this person was one of the rudest people in /bg I've seen in quite some time. To top off all the typing in /bg, he'd sit in stealth in games that weren't lost cause games and do nothing.

the typing thing maybe, but I've never been one to just sit in stealth in a competitive game and not contribute... Never ever been that type, sounds like you got me confused with someone else in that aspect

honestly if you could even link some proof to support this.... I would be extremely surprised to even see you link something where I'm in the game and not preforming the best out of all the rogues... let alone sitting there afk lol....

 

[Jadyne]

19s popping now, who cares, log on

Ahhh, poor lost soul. You really don't understand do you? Unfortunately for you, people actually do care. I have to admit, it'd probably be simpler if they didn't care.

 

[Dorigon]

People would still be posting if they cared.

Amazing, games start popping and the posts stopped.

 

[Mocha]

People would still be posting if they cared.

Amazing, games start popping and the posts stopped.

We had what… 3 pops and then haven't had any since?

 

[Pizza]

Not sure why I'm even bothering to post. Guess I want to get some things off my chest.

I began writing this post in another thread and as the post continued to get longer and longer I figured I would go ahead and make a new Thread.


Hi, I'm Khaos

I was raised to give respect and show kindness even when people do not do the same to you. I have had multiple personas in my many many years playing within the 19 twink community and just because my name has changed multiple times doesn't mean my attitude has changed. What I am getting at is this always happens over and over, when the bracket goes dead for a bit, the elitists come out of the wood works. And just because when you played these last couple of times, when the bracket was active, you and/or the group of players you played with was successful within the gulch. You feel you are entitled to call the players who have played just as long if not longer than you bad because they do not take a game as seriously as you do. You guys need to take a pill and get some sort of social life because at the end of the day this is just a game.

I was raised to do the same, Khaos. Players have been disrespectful towards me since I made my first 19 guild (Pizza Hut) back in ’07. The community has built up this negative view of me over the years because of how I lead my guild in WSG. I have never gone out of my way to be disrespect towards any players or guilds despite how poorly my guild and I have been treated, and falsely perceived over the years.

You guys need to take a pill and get some sort of social life because at the end of the day this is just a game.

You talked about being respectful and showing kindness to others at the start, yet you finished off by being disrespectful.

It is for entertainment, the fact that alot of you elitist takes this game as serious as you do, I question why do you guys even play. How is it fun for you?

I am stating all this because, as of recent I have noticed a lot of players with this attitude that they have the right to call other players bad. Tell them they shouldnt be playing and ask players why do they even play. And my response even though it is not towards me is People play this because it is a game, it can be fun for those who know what they like to do within the game.

My guild and I take this game serious, because for most of us it is our main hobby, and we’re passionate about it. We continue to play and have fun because we enjoy the game and the people we play with. Just because you take a hobby of yours serious doesn’t mean you can't have fun at the same time. People play all sorts of games, and many strive to be the best they can be at those games. For many people, like my guild and I, playing together and striving to be the best we can be makes the game even more fun.

With all this though there are a few select people I would like to touch base on that seems to be making the most waves

SR and other Elitist Alike- I respect all of you as players, every single one of you play the game well and with a high skill level, yet with this comes, like I said above, a sense of entitlement that you all feel like because of your skill level you feel like you can be rude and disrespectful to other players. Is there anything I can do about this? No, other than point out the pure doucheiness of this it is up to you all to realize what kind of impact this makes.

Sure, we play at a high level, and we think we’re better than most players who play twinks, but there’s nothing wrong with being confident in your play. Many of us have been playing twinks competitively for a longer time than most. During this time we have been working hard to improve individually and as a guild in WSG. When you put in work to improve and be better individually and as a team than your competition you should never be ashamed of that.

Saying that my guild feels entitled to be rude and disrespectful towards other players is simply not true. The majority of the members in my guild, especially my core members who have been in it the longest, almost never go out of their way to be rude or disrespectful to other players. Obviously there have been players in my guild over the years that have said and done things that I didn’t approve and never would have done myself, but every guild in WoW that has been around for as long as mine has had those types of members. When you’re recruiting in a small niche community like the twinking community you can only be so selective, skillfully and morality wise.

I have preached before that the 19 bracket will only be hurt by this elitist nature. are we getting pops?

Queues started getting longer the day after I decided to take a break from the bracket. Daedricdeath told me that the Horde didn’t have the numbers and couldn’t provide competitive enough games for the Alliance without my guild. About a week later he went on to tell me he didn’t think pops would continue unless my guild started queuing again. He also mentioned how he and his guildies didn’t feel like queuing as much without us there to give them the fun and competitive games they had come accustom to. I’m sure Daedric wasn’t the only player on Alliance who felt that way.

Are we as active as we have been in the past? Every time the bracket goes dead and comes back it lasts alittle less than the time before, people state this is the natural rotation, yet you cannot tell me that the 19s are thriving as much as they did back in Cata/WotLK? When there was a carebear attitude present where twinks actually respected one another. Of course there was trolls yet not as many as we have nowadays.

From the start of BC to now my premading guild has been nothing but a blessing to this bracket. I have been passionate and dedicated to leading my guild for 7+ years. If more players were as dedicated to playing their 19 twinks, some also leading guilds, as I have been over all these years the bracket could have been, and would be in, a better place. What I have done for this bracket should be applauded. Instead, players have continually been negative towards me, and consequently my guild members. Neither have I gone out of my way to respond to this negativity, nor have I been negative or disrespectful towards any other players or guilds. Nonetheless, my guild and I will continue to be blamed for anything and everything that is wrong with the bracket, while the nonstop scolding and disrespect shown towards my guild and I will be brushed under the rug.

Since I've gotten older and more mature this negativity has started taking a toll on my desire to play in this bracket. Ultimately it led to me, and consequently, my guild deciding to take a break from 19s to play 90s for RBGs instead.




This post is genuinely truthful and from the heart. Some of you might think it is superficial or just my ‘forum persona’ or whatever, and that’s bothersome to me, but it’s just me being me.

 

[Dorigon]

We had what… 3 pops and then haven't had any since?

And still no posting in the interim? I wonder what is up?

 

[Jadyne]

Maybe they all ragequit.

Me, I was busy playing 49s. And now I'm getting an early night's rest for a change.

 

[Solipsist]

Ahhh, poor lost soul. You really don't understand do you? Unfortunately for you, people actually do care. I have to admit, it'd probably be simpler if they didn't care.

Ok, can you like not talk to me anymore you old fart. I'm starting to get a bit worried about your stalking. It's not healthy ya know.

We had what… 3 pops and then haven't had any since?

More like 10 but you should know since you were there.

 

[Solipsist]

Maybe they all ragequit.
Me, I was busy playing 49s. And now I'm getting an early night's rest for a change.

Good, you need that rest. Stalking must take a toll on you.

 

[Mocha]

More like 10 but you should know since you were there.

Was at work… Hence why I asked the question….

And 10 pops in an hour, I'm impressed.

 

[Ridwane]

I do believe, that even if people can be the nicest players world, the simple fact they will block the opposite team into their own GY, in order to win the game, they will loose all the respect they have earned by being cool with others players.

If every "elitist" started to be nice, at the end of the day you will get GY farmed by nice people, and then qq again here. If an "elitist" don't win, he don't enjoy the game and will be pist. So why should "elitist" downgrade their gameplay to give "normal" players the fun they want when they clearly sacrifice their own pleasure ?

 

[Ridwane]

I dunno how it was in US but this was some what truer in EU than it is nowadays, yes not everyone acted well back in the days but at least the atmosphere was way less negative and respectful despite your origions & level of play, also people were much more original with basicly everything and made it work instead of just trying to do what everyone else is doing, like huge diff between ppl used not strafe and then they started to strafe, people used to know something else but frag each other in mid for 20 minutes to go draw etc

rofl it's funny cuz we are the one being disrespectful toward the level of play, and alliance who can't even found something bad about our gameplay started to troll origins, bad english and in real life apparence. Players who were "original" back in the day didn't really wanted to win no matter the price apparently, they worked alone, for their own abilities without caring about the 9 others guys playing with him, mid presence require to work as a group, which is a good thing for the bracket, if everyone was "original", game would happen ToT and everyone would take the flag. and it's funny about the part staying mid and only frag for 20 mins, cuz when TL do it, it's 3-0 after 10 mins, but when alliance do it it's usually 0-0 or 1-1. Strafing make you an "original" player ? Let me laugh, everyone was copying thoses straffers, where is the "originality" when everyone copy you, you guys played O and D, everyone played that meta back in the day til someone show up with something bigger, how is that "original", you guys learned some sicks jumps ToT, others followed how is that "original", you should use another word.

Otherwise, TL is "original" cuz we added mid presence to this bracket.

 

[Bung]

TL is "original" cuz we added mid presence to this bracket.

Added mid presence , I think the expantion of MoP added this with the enchants.. its like saying a new game is released and your the first to buy it and your the orginal the others just copy/follow you
or do you mean that you guys added skype chat combined with wow teamwork into the game?

 

[Mocha]

Added mid presence , I think the expantion of MoP added this with the enchants.. its like saying a new game is released and your the first to buy it and your the orginal the others just copy/follow you
or do you mean that you guys added skype chat combined with wow teamwork into the game?

They were the first to do it on 5 fotm classes to steam roll pugs ;P