Free to play pride
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l30t53dd6p
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The thing is twinking existed long before all of this standard starter edition twinking and blizzard killed all of it, maby you could look a little further then just your own little wow experience and see the bigger picture here. Maby then you start to understand what twinking really is and that it is manly not focussing on standard starter edition accounts who claimed everything for themselves and (most) being jerks to those who play the game differently.
This is the same discussion we used to have on the official forums between normal players vs twinkers, it is a shame it extends to even twinkinfo itself and people should be glad that this site made room for this way of playing the game, I wouldn't have created it.
This is the same discussion we used to have on the official forums between normal players vs twinkers, it is a shame it extends to even twinkinfo itself and people should be glad that this site made room for this way of playing the game, I wouldn't have created it.
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Sicknature
Grandfathered
Why exactly
?And Loli has a good point imo, the situation on EU servers really got out of hand ><
I'd say there's more p2p (20 vets or 29s) than actual f2ps sadly..
on the US servers this isnt the case from my pov (dont flame on me only started US about a month ago
)So maybe if you're f2p and don't enjoy the current situation then i'd say try out US for sure ;p
PS: times change as you can see but maybe the bracket will make a miraculous recovery some day! /fingerscrossed
Kincaide
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I'm not opposed to people expressing their opinions, as long as they remember that their opinions are strictly that: their own personal view, which applies to nobody but themselves.
A person expressing an opinion can't say that someone else's opinion is "wrong". That's where I draw the line. You're welcome to your own opinion but you are not welcome to step on other people's opinions.
Likewise, when you express an opinion, other people can't tell you your opinion is "wrong" either. All they should do is say "well, that's, like, your opinion, man" and move on. In an ideal, judgment-free world, everyone would just say their own opinion, no one would try to force theirs upon someone else, and no one would reject someone else's opinion just because it's different.
The truth of the matter is that things change, and everything evolves. The more you decide to go along with the evolution, the less personal strife and anguish you will feel. Don't become the old man who sits on his porch and bemoans "the way it used to be". You can still listen to your waltzes on your Wurlitzer if you want, but don't try to take away from other people's enjoyment of that new-fangled rock n roll.
Keep it civil, y'all.
A person expressing an opinion can't say that someone else's opinion is "wrong". That's where I draw the line. You're welcome to your own opinion but you are not welcome to step on other people's opinions.
Likewise, when you express an opinion, other people can't tell you your opinion is "wrong" either. All they should do is say "well, that's, like, your opinion, man" and move on. In an ideal, judgment-free world, everyone would just say their own opinion, no one would try to force theirs upon someone else, and no one would reject someone else's opinion just because it's different.
The truth of the matter is that things change, and everything evolves. The more you decide to go along with the evolution, the less personal strife and anguish you will feel. Don't become the old man who sits on his porch and bemoans "the way it used to be". You can still listen to your waltzes on your Wurlitzer if you want, but don't try to take away from other people's enjoyment of that new-fangled rock n roll.
Keep it civil, y'all.
Wizkidone
Started from the bottom
5$ deal wasn't going to be around forever, took it while it was there. Did it to make a guild with friends mostly. You'll probably find that most of these "old" f2ps that went vet have an f2p set and a vet set that they swap in between, depending on what they're fighting. At least that's what I do. F2P match, F2P gear, P2P match, P2P gear.
Voc
2017 Twink Cup Champion
This pride is all bs people like to be at a huge disadvantage and still want to win but when they don't they get upset and whine about other people that went vet. PvP constantly changes, you must adapt and if you do not it just isn't fun.
Btw if I had the power I would create a level 20 only bracket no heirlooms no enchants allowed, only blues, and I would return the abilities we have lost over the time these xpacs came out.
Btw if I had the power I would create a level 20 only bracket no heirlooms no enchants allowed, only blues, and I would return the abilities we have lost over the time these xpacs came out.
Srs
Legend
I too pine for the days when a f2ps were f2ps, and we fought against the evil hordes of hunters and 24s. But those days are gone. The whole game is about to go f2p, more or less, with the tokens, so this is all going to be a moot point very soon. If you've got enough time, you can buy gametime on the AH using gold you farm in the game. That means the only difference between starter and every other player will be which expansion they've paid for. In essence, WoW will actually be buy-to-play. For people that like to do things the hard way, and have plenty of time, you can buy whatever expansion you want, and never pay again if you don't want to. That means the only difference between starters and everyone else in the game, will literally be whatever they charge for the battlechest.
Circumstances have changed. Remember when they sold the WoW CD with a 14-day trial for $2 ? For a little more than the cost of a few weeks of old trial time, you will soon be able to play WoW ad infinitum.
I always railed against the 24s that used to troll our bracket as pay-to-wins, and they always used to say that we should buy the game. I feel like I was right, at the time. But now, I feel like true trials are just not facing reality, and looking a gift horse in the mouth. WoW gave everyone what they wanted: they took away the pay to win element in the bracket. You don't have to subscribe, ever, to play. You could literally pay the five dollars, or whatever, for the battlechest, and farm enough gold to pay for your game time from that point on. You can twink 20, 29, 19, 39, 70, or whatever. You can play with old school restriction. You can do whatever you want now; we got what we wanted. We won: it will be all be f2p.
WoW will be f2p.
Circumstances have changed. Remember when they sold the WoW CD with a 14-day trial for $2 ? For a little more than the cost of a few weeks of old trial time, you will soon be able to play WoW ad infinitum.
I always railed against the 24s that used to troll our bracket as pay-to-wins, and they always used to say that we should buy the game. I feel like I was right, at the time. But now, I feel like true trials are just not facing reality, and looking a gift horse in the mouth. WoW gave everyone what they wanted: they took away the pay to win element in the bracket. You don't have to subscribe, ever, to play. You could literally pay the five dollars, or whatever, for the battlechest, and farm enough gold to pay for your game time from that point on. You can twink 20, 29, 19, 39, 70, or whatever. You can play with old school restriction. You can do whatever you want now; we got what we wanted. We won: it will be all be f2p.
WoW will be f2p.
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danny glover
Officially Retired
are cumstains welcome as well?
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That's really insulting to say vets are "wrong".
I'm still "pure f2p" but might go vet soon.
Thank you for stating your opininion, yes that's all it is...your opinion. As mentioned many times before, one individual doesn't get to define what f2p means for everyone else.
You can only state YOUR OPINION.
For me and myself only, f2p means I play for free, sure I might make once in a life time payment, but I play for free for the rest of my days.
I'm still "pure f2p" but might go vet soon.
Thank you for stating your opininion, yes that's all it is...your opinion. As mentioned many times before, one individual doesn't get to define what f2p means for everyone else.
You can only state YOUR OPINION.
For me and myself only, f2p means I play for free, sure I might make once in a life time payment, but I play for free for the rest of my days.
Allybeboba
Legend
Eriwen
Legend
OP
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lolipopp
Legend
= p2p
Allybeboba
Legend
That is where you are incorrect. In the America where I live, the America I fought for, the America I saw people die for you say what you want. It may come off as rude but you can still state it. As you have basically told people what they can and cannot do.
/cheers
Sweetsidney
Goohd
born good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7IvsW9xHnU
skip to 1:45 for the good part. I thought this video fit well for this thread.
skip to 1:45 for the good part. I thought this video fit well for this thread.
PLEYA
Legend
It's not about the money, everyone agrees on 5$ being nothing.
It's about the principle. The principle that F2Ps lived on for years, the principle that made us come together as F2Ps to defeat the 24s looking for a faceroll.
It's this principle that arguably made for the existence of designated F2P-realms AND this very forum that we're posting on.
F2P-accounts offer so little, and when people speak about what it is that keeps them interested they almost always say that it's because of the community, the community that was formed based off the principle.
We used to be made up out of people ranging from those who simply wanted some free fun, to a few who played alongside us on P2P-accounts with F2P-restrictions. And everybody rightfully hated on P2Ps and felt pride in often being able to defeat them through the means of skill and teamwork, it brought us together, the common principle!
But look at the now... people splitting off for the very same reasons of the 24s and 29s. There is no doubt in my mind that if veterans were able to play at 29 that the same amount of people who enchant 20s now would be enchanting 29s then, if not more.
lol stupid f2ps, if you can afford an internet connection then you can afford 15$ a month for this game you spend so much time on
lol stupid f2ps, if you can afford an internet connection then you can afford 5$ for this game you spend so much time on
5$ is nothing, but 5$ just so that I'll have an easier time at the expense of others?
The worst part of all this is not that the F2Ps now face an even bigger disadvantage, it's that our already small community now is splitting up with a broken principle and nothing left to tie us together. We only share the level now.
It's about the principle. The principle that F2Ps lived on for years, the principle that made us come together as F2Ps to defeat the 24s looking for a faceroll.
It's this principle that arguably made for the existence of designated F2P-realms AND this very forum that we're posting on.
F2P-accounts offer so little, and when people speak about what it is that keeps them interested they almost always say that it's because of the community, the community that was formed based off the principle.
We used to be made up out of people ranging from those who simply wanted some free fun, to a few who played alongside us on P2P-accounts with F2P-restrictions. And everybody rightfully hated on P2Ps and felt pride in often being able to defeat them through the means of skill and teamwork, it brought us together, the common principle!
But look at the now... people splitting off for the very same reasons of the 24s and 29s. There is no doubt in my mind that if veterans were able to play at 29 that the same amount of people who enchant 20s now would be enchanting 29s then, if not more.
lol stupid f2ps, if you can afford an internet connection then you can afford 15$ a month for this game you spend so much time on
lol stupid f2ps, if you can afford an internet connection then you can afford 5$ for this game you spend so much time on
5$ is nothing, but 5$ just so that I'll have an easier time at the expense of others?
The worst part of all this is not that the F2Ps now face an even bigger disadvantage, it's that our already small community now is splitting up with a broken principle and nothing left to tie us together. We only share the level now.
Hashbrowns
Legend
So i'll just throw this out there:
What if you are linked... and your paid has all the guild looms. You haven't paid on that account for years. If you use them on your f2p are you a paid account? How would you make that distinction between someone that recently spent 5 bucks or not? That line has really become blurred.
If you are saying linked accounts are paid then this is a new view... that wasn't the norm before.
What if you are linked... and your paid has all the guild looms. You haven't paid on that account for years. If you use them on your f2p are you a paid account? How would you make that distinction between someone that recently spent 5 bucks or not? That line has really become blurred.
If you are saying linked accounts are paid then this is a new view... that wasn't the norm before.
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