Some of your statements are objectively wrong. Logically, your definition of twinking excludes all characters below lvl 100. About "owning" a bracket, 20-24 and later 20-29 brackets were/would have been utterly dead without f2p players (this may have changed now).
No, because twinking happens within the confines of a bracket. Level 100s aren't part of the 20-29 bracket, as example. The very nature of twinking is to min max within that bracket. Starter accounts are unable to do that.
Also, activity comes and goes. It's not about who came along and supplied activity for a bracket during X amount of time. It's about the principles of twinking. I can sit here and tell you that the best period of twinking for 29s was MoP (when you and many others assumed the bracket was dead), and that the merger of 20-24s and 25-29s into one bracket has been an absolute shit show for activity since. The best 29 games I've participated in since, were wargames where F2Ps were not present.
You can sit here with the OP and claim that starter accounts are superior, that people should feel pride for being a F2P. But the fact is that the quality of games for F2Ps since cata is not really something to be proud of. They've never really been that great, and as far as I can surmise, they never will be. They're the equivalent of XP on random BGs, after all.
Hashbrowns said:
This is probably out of CoC and will get edited but here's how I see it:
29's don't give a shit. They really don't. They don't care about competition. About good games. They don't care about skill. They just want to shit all over everything and ruin it. They are fine rolling BM 29 monk and poping a 6k guard and 4v1ing people. They think it's fun, and tbh it probably is (for an hour). But if you have more then 2 brain cells you understand this should not be misplaced for skill. But they don't, they think they are gods of PvP. So it never ends. By in-large they have never experienced anything more then faceroll. They level alt after alt and struggle end game. So they come here; were it's like killing the boars they've been grinding their whole WoW lives.
That's why it's so appealing to stay f2p. Because every once in a while you get that great comp of skilled players and destroy them. With comp, good play, and really honest to goodness skill. And THAT is the best feeling you can get in this game. Until a 29 experiences that, you are going to have a hard time convincing them otherwise.
Will this ever be fixed, probably not. We go vet to attempt to level the playing field. But it does feel garbagey and I dislike it tbh. At least for me personally it's an attempt to balance the game or make a less powerfull class playable. But who knows how long it will last. I have a strong urge to play f2p restricted again.
The onus isn't on 29s to make the bracket a competitive place for F2Ps. Each person who plays this game (especially those who want to call themselves twinks), have to take individual responsibility for the choices they make. If you want to be competitive with 29s, you need to play a 29. That's how twinking works. Sure, we have scaling now and it does a fine job of keeping starters and veterans from being free HKs, but it's not a perfect solution by any means (and I don't think it's intended to be).
At the end of the day I can't help but bringing up
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2140447297?page=10#183 made by Bashiok about BoAs in low level pvp. It's sentiment applies perfectly to starters and veterans as well within the context of the 20-29 bracket:
Right. I do apologize that you're having a frustrating time going up against others, but as you stated it's because you're unable or unwilling to obtain the gear to remain competitive,
We can just add in there 'subscribe to the game' and it's every bit as fitting.
It's not about not caring about competition. It's not about wanting to faceroll and play OP classes (F2Ps are every bit as guilty of this, probably more). It's about playing by the rules Blizzard designed the game around, and having no sympathy for players who choose to limit themselves. How is the choice you've made to roll a F2P any different than the choice new players made before XP on/off segregation? Those players used to queue up for BGs knowing full well they'd be out geared and out skilled by twinks, and they'd complain the same as you, refusing to take personal responsibility for the choices they've made.
leotseddap said:
which is not litterrally 20-29 cause of gilneas being 25-29.
I think that was an oversight.
